I am learning TONS from this invaluable website. I want to buy a split king latex mattress and put it on an adjustable base. I was looking at the L&P S cape and the Reverie 7S, and ran into the Enso Avante Garde. It got my attention because of the adjustable lumbar support. I donât know if thatâs overkill when you have both an adjustable frame and a latex mattress. . Iâm also not sure if itâs wall hugging. I know L&P and Reverie are well known brands. I canât seem to find any quality information on Enso. I havenât found a good local resource for the Ergomotion brand. I live in Maryland, outside of Washington, D.C. in the 20904 zip code. Iâm also looking for local manufacturers for the latex mattresses. Any suggestions?
Hi golfergirl29,
A separate lumbar adjustment may be useful in some cases if the mattress itself doesnât provide suitable lumbar support. It could possibly help to compensate for a mattress that was too soft if you arenât able to return it but the only way to know whether it would be beneficial for you with any specific mattress would be based on your own personal experience.
While itâs probably not a complete list ⌠some of the adjustable beds that have adjustable lumbar support include âŚ
http://www.sleepys.com/enso-titan-avant-garde-premium-adjustable-base/ENS600.html
https://www.amazon.com/Serta-Motion-Custom-Adjustable-Queen/dp/B00JGMATQI
http://softide.com/assets/8300_spec_sheet-web.pdf
https://www.matt-to-go.com/Rize_Revolution.html (Discontinued once stock is gone)
http://www.bedframes.com/rize/the-cresta
http://customaticbeds.com/product/the-visionary/#sthash.vKMlzX7y.dpbs
http://customaticbeds.com/product/the-dreamstar-2/#sthash.TYuopCvc.dpbs
Enso adjustable beds are manufactured by Innova Sleep Systems and while Iâm not specifically familiar with them ⌠there would be no reason to think that they were either more or less reliable than any of the other major adjustable bed manufacturers.
There is more information about choosing an adjustable bed in post #3 here and the main adjustable bed topic that it links to that can help you choose an adjustable bed based on price vs features comparisons and also includes some retailers that you can use as good sources of information about the features of the adjustable beds they carry and as pricing references as well (in post #6 in the main adjustable bed topic). Of course there are many other sources as well and prices and models can change on a regular basis so I would also include some internet searching in your research and I would keep in mind that online advertised prices are often price controlled so make sure you call them to find out their best prices rather than just looking at the prices on websites.
Ergomotion has a retail store finder on their site here.
Subject to first confirming that any retailer or manufacturer on the list you wish to deal with is completely transparent (see this article) and to making sure that any mattress you are considering meets your criteria and the quality/value guidelines here ⌠the better options or possibilities Iâm aware of in and around the Washington, DC area are listed in post #2 here.
Phoenix
It has no wall hugging. Matress Firm delivered a beaten up floor model, which was sold with 20 years warranty in the price, but was causing a cracking noise from day one. The store clerk had seemingly no idea what the adjustable lumbar support was as a base feature. The manufacturer was Innova based on the manual. The manual also stated that floor models âmayâ compromise your warranty. The store of course charges your credit card before you see the manual.
Hereâs an addition to the beds with the lumbar support.
Rize Cresta: http://www.bedframes.com/rize/the-cresta
FYI, the Rize Revolution has been discontinued.
Hi NeedLumbarSupport,
Thanks for letting us know that the Avante Garde doesnât have a wall hugger feature which is certainly something that may be important for some people.
You can see the warranty for the Enso adjustable beds here. With a floor model the warranty starts on the date of manufacture instead of the date of purchase so you could lose a significant part of the first yearâs coverage.
Hopefully Mattress Firm has been able to look after you with the cracking noise.
Thanks for the heads up about the Revolution and for letting us know about the Cresta.
Phoenix
any general comments regarding the quality of the rize adjustable beds?
âQualityâ is a bit of nebulous term taking into account the entirety of an adjustable bed base unit, but I can tell you a bit about the Rize lineup (disclaimer: I offer Rize and Leggett bases at my store).
The first thing Iâd offer up is that the major players domestically (like Leggett and Platt, Rize, Reverie, Ergomotion) all do a pretty good job. I am seeing a bit of a difference the past two years with a ârace to the bottomâ of new items, mostly imports (not that this makes them bad by default), to capitalize on the popularity of adjustable bed bases and attempts to get the price points lower and lower. Less powerful and less refined motors, less steel, cheaper steel, poorer welds, and so on. Granted, power base motors are under load for a just a few seconds as they adjust up and down, but you still want to take a look underneath any item youâre considering to look at the mechanism and how itâs put together. There is no one âbestâ manner of designing a base structure (and certainly some new interesting methods such as Yaasa in articulation and ability to be UPS-able), but you want to make sure than anything youâre considering at least visually appears to be solid and put together well.
The Rize line does use 850 lb lift capacity motors across their entire line, and they do use a decent amount of steel in their frame networks. Their motors are quiet and âtorqueyâ - theyâre neither the fastest nor the slowest in adjustment speed. Like most brands, your choice would come down to which bells and whistles you deem necessary and worthy of your hard-earned Benjamins.
Iâve had very few issues the past 25 years with any of the adjustable bed brands Iâve offered. With most adjustable bed bases, if you have an issue it will tend to crop up earlier in your ownership, and quite often can be a result of how the product was handled during shipping (something accidentally coming loose, item mishandled by transit company), and this would usually be covered early on by most manufacturerâs warranties. Even if you did have a motor or massage unit go bad (maybe you had a power surge) and had to replace it yourself, most bases are quite âplug and playâ in replacing componentry and simple enough to do on your own, although it just isnât a common thing with most of the better companies out there.
Overall, Iâve been very happy with Rize, but Iâm also happy with my Leggett and Platt offerings, and if I offered other brands such as Reverie or Ergomotion Iâd probably be happy as well. Without meaning to sound solicitous, if you have specific questions about a certain Rize model, youâre more than welcome to contact me at my business and Iâll be happy to answer questions about that or any other things about adjustable bed bases.
There is more information from Phoenix about choosing an adjustable bed in post #3 here that also can be quite useful.
I hope that general information helps you out.
thank you âmattress to goâ as you noticed i tried ordering the rize crest from your website and you kindly informed me of the new model that they are releasing this summer. i am looking forward.
thank you so much for giving me the updated information!