My apologies Senpai…
I just wanted to put in my opinion since the BME was up there (#1/2) in my consideration for a new mattress.
What stopped my from buying the mattress was shipping, customs and brokerage fees into Canada with US money conversion.
Remix - thanks for the input. I based the 3" on the fact that the 2" gel foam is not thick enough for me as a “soft” top layer. I hit the middle layer of latex and it feels too firm. So, I thought a 3" latex toper would do the trick.
I also though I could get a 2" topper (19 ILD or so) and if that was not enough, buy a Lanoodle or something (or convoluted latex), but a 2" topper plus something else is much more than a 3" topper of the same material.
Also, I like latex, I like the springy, bouncy feel. So, if I’m looking at 7" of latex on top of a 6" foam core, that’s likely not too much for me. My favorite latex mattress so far was a 100% talalay (all natural), 12" mattress with nothing else but a thin cotton stretch cover.
That’s sounds about right since you’re getting a soft firmness of the Talalay Latex topper (I totally forgot about that even though I listed in the specs above) and the fact you’ve tried and liked a 12" all Latex mattress (I wouldn’t go close to that since it would be so much out of my budget range).
But as Phoenix suggests, you have to make sure the topper plus mattress combination suits your body type and sleeping positions (PPP), 7" Latex (5" being soft) over 6" foam doesn’t sound so bad after all if it fits your bill and PPP.
Remix - actually 3" soft, 4" medium since we have a medium BME. Of course, we’re also considering just switching to the BME soft. If it’s not soft enough (or, rather, the soft layer is not thick enough), then we add 1-3 inches more soft latex.
Sounds simple, but if we exchange the BME, we’re stuck with the next one, like it or not. And, I don’t love the feel of the foam core. I like more bounce, which is why the all latex bed and the all innerspring mattresses were appealing to me.
So, save a little and maybe it works out or just pay a bunch more retail, locally and know exactly what I’m getting.That’s conundrum I’ve not gotten around to answering.
Hi, BME owners. I’m considering a BME. I’m curious if anyone has tried the Ikea Morgongava as well as the BME.
I’m not asking if its better or not, just how it feels different. Particularly if the medium is softer or firmer than the Morgongava? what is the density of the upper layer? Or maybe there are some more nuanced differences. I’d love to hear about them.
Sorry if this is too off topic. Phoenix feel free to move this to a different thread if you think so.
Hi SuperJ,
I switched your post to a more suitable topic that has some information that may be helpful.
I don’t know of anyone that has mentioned trying both mattresses but hopefully one of the members here that has tried both of them will see your post and share their comments.
I would also keep in mind that these are very different mattresses with different types and blends of latex (which would have a different feel and response) and very different designs. The Morgongava has a single layer of latex with a single firmness while the BME uses a combination of multiple layers that will each have some affect how it feels and different people may have very different opinions about how they feel and compare based on their body type and sleeping style which will affect how deeply they sink into the mattress and their perceptions about which of the layers have a significant effect on their sleeping experience and on how firm the mattress feels to them compared to someone else.
Every layer and component in a mattress will have an effect on the feel and performance of every other layer and component above and below it and the ILD or density of latex is only one of several variables or “specs” that will determine how soft or firm an individual layer or a mattress “as a whole” will feel to different people (see post #4 here). In addition to this the ILD or density of different materials or different types and blends of latex also aren’t always directly comparable to each other (see post #6 here) so using the ILD of a particular layer or combination of layers as a reliable indication of how any mattress will “feel” or how firm it will feel to you compared to another mattress with a completely different design can be more misleading than helpful .
There are also no “standard” definitions or consensus of opinions for firmness ratings and different manufacturers can rate their mattresses very differently than others so a mattress that one manufacturer rates as being a specific firmness could be rated very differently by another manufacturer. Different people can also have very different perceptions of firmness and softness compared to others as well and a mattress that feels firm for one person can feel like “medium” for someone else or even “soft” for someone else (or vice versa) depending on their body type, sleeping style, physiology, their frame of reference based on what they are used to, and their individual sensitivity and perceptions. There are also different types of firmness and softness that different people may be sensitive to that can affect how they “rate” a mattress as well (see post #15 here) so different people can also have very different opinions on how two mattresses compare in terms of firmness and some people may rate one mattress as being firmer than another and someone else may rate them the other way around. This is all relative and very subjective and is as much an art as a science.
While your own careful testing or personal experience is the most reliable way to know whether any mattress is a good “match” for you in terms of comfort and PPP or how closely it “matches” or “approximates” another mattress … when you can’t test a mattress in person then the most reliable source of guidance is always a more detailed phone conversation with a knowledgeable and experienced retailer or manufacturer that has your best interests at heart and who can help “talk you through” the specifics of their mattresses and the properties and “feel” of the materials they are using (fast or slow response, resilience, firmness etc) and the options they have available that may be the best “match” for you based on the information you provide them, any local testing you have done or mattresses you have slept on and liked or other mattresses you are considering that they are familiar with, and the “averages” of other customers that are similar to you. They will know more about “matching” their specific mattress designs and firmness levels to different body types, sleeping positions, and preferences (or to other mattresses that they are familiar with) than anyone else.
Phoenix
It’s Nemix not Remix…LOL
Anyhow, I’m understanding your case; I kept thinking you have a BME in Soft already thus I said you’d only need another 2" Soft Latex topper and not a 3" Latex topper.
In your case a 3" Soft Latex topper now makes perfect sense unless you get your BME in Medium exchanged for a Soft in which case you’d only need a 2" Soft Latex topper afterwards but doing so comes with a risk factor in the case you don’t like BME is Soft you’ll be stuck with it.
Personally I don’t see the risk but it needs to pointed out since you don’t like your current BME in Medium anyways and want to soften is up by getting a 3" Soft Latex topper because a 2" Latex topper will not suffice since you don’t want to be bottoming out onto the BME firmer Latex layers…LOL
This is why I just chose a two sided flip design pocketed coil mattress and then going topping it with a 2-3" Latex topper, I don’t like the dead weight feeling of foam core mattress but in all honesty if the BME was sold in Canada for the same price as the US (just conversion) with free shipping included I would have probably pulled the trigger on the BME in Medium and probably stick with it (gradually get use to the feeling of the foam core mattress).
Hi Nemix,
Unless you have a great deal of experience in the industry and with the specific mattresses or toppers they are considering it’s very unlikely that you would be able to predict which topper they would do best with no matter what mattress or firmness level they have.
Again … I really don’t think that you have the knowledge or experience to be able to provide this type of guidance to others.
Phoenix
My apologies again… :lol:
It’s in my nature to use calculations, I’m a computer specialist and have a scientific mind; I’m left handed and use both sides of my brain sometimes too much which gets me into trouble.
I know it’s totally different when it comes to mattresses there’s just too many unknown variables but I can’t help myself when posting or trying to find information related to mattresses/sleeping.
I have a sleeping disorder, probably due to my old mattress and I’m here for advice on trying to resolve my sleeping disorder…so you have every right to say I shouldn’t be giving advice at least not yet.
Happy mind = Happy person… 
I just purchased a BME King medium after speaking with Mario about my firmness choice. We are
Me: 5’10 190lbs
Wife: 5’9" 150lbs
So, pretty average sized people. My wife can sleep on ANYthing and rotates from her back to her side. I sleep on my side and can/like to sleep on my back with a firmer mattress. Our current Serta pillowtop is a little too soft and gives me a little back ache and shoulder ache after a night of sleep. Sleeping on back being very rare due to a lack of support.
Our new mattress should be here the day before or after Thanksgiving and I will certainly update with my impressions.
Mario was as nice as everyone has suggested and no pressure to buy. With the return policy, I just don’t see how we could lose by trying this bed out.
Hi cablebandit,
As you know you made a great quality/value choice … and congratulations on your new mattress as well
I’m also looking forward to your feedback once you’ve received it and have had the chance to try it out.
Phoenix
Just ordered my #bestmattressever and I’m excited. I’ve bought more mattresses than I care to admit over the past 20 years and usually HATE shopping for them. Salespeople always seem more pushy than knowledgable, and it’s impossible to compare from one store to the next. About a year ago, I ordered an inexpensive DreamFoam Bedding 12-in-1 customizable online, and although it was really comfortable for awhile, the softer layer of polyfoam is now giving out. Hoping the higher density foam along with the 4" of latex in the #bestmattressever are as durable as everyone says.
Ordering was really simple and quick. I used the chat button a couple days ago, and today (Saturday) called and spoke with Keaton who was quite helpful and friendly. Used the “underground” 5% off coupon and Keaton also said he would throw in some pillows.
Also want to say “thanks” to this site - I read dozens of posts (many by Phoenix) over the past few days to help make my decision and feel better informed about this purchase than any previous mattress purchase. Will update after I get my mattress.
Hi 10knotshot,
Thanks for the feedback and for letting us know what you ended up deciding … and congratulations on your new mattress
As you know I think you made a great quality/value choice and I’m looking forward to your comments and feedback when you receive it and have had the chance to sleep on it for a bit.
While the 2 lb polyfoam in the 12 in 1 customizable is a good quality material (in its budget range especially) … it’s possible that the soft layer was “on the edge” of being too soft for you so that even “normal” foam softening over time was enough to take you outside the comfort/support range that is suitable for you (see post #2 here). Since it’s a component mattress you could replace the soft layer with either a firmer layer of good quality polyfoam or even a layer of latex and you would have a mattress that you could use as a spare or as a guest mattress.
The latex comfort layers in the BestMattressEver would be more durable than the polyfoam in your 12 in 1 customizable.
Phoenix
Just ordered my #BestMattressEver. Now I am hoping for the #BestSleepEver. Got the Black Friday promos 5%off and 2 free pillows. Thanks for all the info!
Cheers
RC
Hi rcraft63,
Congratulations on your new mattress
I think you made a great quality/value choice and like the other members here that have purchased it I’m also looking forward to your comments and feedback once you’ve received it as well.
Phoenix
I ordered a soft Best Mattress ever and have been sleeping on it for about a month. I’m having shoulder pain since I am a side sleeper. I did not have shoulder pain on my old memory foam mattress. Brooklyn Bedding is sending me a memory foam topper for my mattress. Has anyone else tried the soft Best Mattress Ever with a memory foam topper?
Hi abbygrant,
If your mattress is too firm then a topper can certainly be an effective way to add some additional softness and pressure relief although there is always some risk and uncertainty involved in adding a topper if you haven’t tested the combination in person each person is unique and the specifics of the mattress and topper itself along with your own body type, sleeping position, preferences, and what you are used to sleeping on can affect which specific topper would be a suitable choice for any particular person on any specific mattress.
I would be very cautious about using other people’s reviews or experiences on a topper (either positive or negative) as a reliable source of information or guidance about how suitable or how soft or firm it may feel to you and in many cases they can be more misleading than helpful because a mattress/topper combination that would be a perfect choice for one person may not work out nearly as well for someone else (see post #13 here).
Having said all that … the most likely reason for shoulder pain is a mattress that is too firm and a memory foam topper would certainly add some additional softness and pressure relief to your mattress so the odds are in your favor but again the only way to know whether you will sleep well on the combination will be based on your own personal experience.
It’s also possible that shoulder pain can be a pillow issue and it may also be worthwhile trying a different pillow that keeps your head and neck in good alignment to see if it helps as well…
I’m looking forward to finding out how the topper works out for you.
Phoenix
We have had the mattress now for a couple of weeks and are happy with our purchase. The order shipped quickly, the mattress took very little time to fill out its shape after taking out of the box, and there was no unpleasant smell that can sometime happen with new mattresses. The materials are good quality, it is comfortable to sleep on, and we feel better rested after a night’s sleep on this mattress than we ever did on our previous one. My husband used to get really hot on top of our memory foam topper and he doesn’t with this latex mattress.
All in all, a great purchase!
Hi kzolling,
Thanks for taking the time to share an update.
It’s great to hear that your choice turned out well for you
Phoenix
uggghh my mattress was supposed to be here Friday but FedEx didnt show…so now maybe today. I was hoping to offer a sleep update by now.
aaand it finally showed. It lacks about 1" maybe from expanding to the full width (height is fine) of our support after only 1 hour. There is no smell and it was easy to unpack.