Hi there! I work for My Green Mattress and I would like to clear up any misunderstanding or misstating of our products when it comes to the amount of polyester fiber that is blended into the wool. Our natural Joma wool is sources from sheep raised in New Zealand. The wool batting is processed with a small amount of polyester fibers that have not been treated with any flame retardants. The purpose of these longer fibers is to give the wool a more consistent weight and feel, and prevents the quilt in our mattress from feeling lumpy. The total composition of our finished mattress has less than 1% of this polyester fiber.
Thank you. I was informed of the same thing by Kathy. I received my daughter’s mattress this evening but haven’t had a chance to open it yet because, well, it is heavy and I need help carrying it upstairs ;).
My wife and I decided to upgrade to a king mattress at the beginning of this year. During that time both Leesa and Brooklyn Bedding had New Years sales so we ordered both. We ordered the Brooklyn Bedding medium and it arrived first so it was the first to go on the frame. We slept on it for 30 days and were both very happy with it. I’m a very hot sleeper and didn’t notice any heat issues. My wife was concerned with any foam mattress because she really didn’t want that sinking feeling (we have a new born and she is up at night a lot).
We then swapped it out for the Leesa. My wife was unhappy with it after the first few nights but we kept it on the bed for 12 or 14 days to see if she would get used to it. Again it didn’t feel too hot for me but could definitely tell the difference and the more sinking in feeling. My wife said it gave her lower back pain and she didn’t like that she had to “crawl out of it” to get up with the baby. And if she rolled over on her side she could feel the indent of where she was previously laying on her back.
We switched back to the Brooklyn and all is well again. We thought about trying out the firm just to see but have decided to just keep the medium. After reading some reviews on this site I’m happy to see that the Brooklyn has known good foam and the Leesa is questionable. I hope we are happy with it for years to come!
Hi samholton,
Thanks for taking the time to share your comments and feedback and for letting us know what you ended up deciding … I appreciate it.
You’re right that the BME uses high quality and durable materials and there are no lower quality materials or weak links that would compromise the durability or useful life of the mattress relative to any weight range.
It’s great to hear that your BME is working out well for you and that both of you like it … and congratulations on your new mattress 
Phoenix
Having failed on the alexander hybrid, we are looking at the medium BME. We are back and side sleepers, 130 and 150 lbs and i have some low back pain. The Alexander was just too soft. I chatted with Mario and he suggested the soft. This has me nervous, that i’m going to end up with another too-soft mattress. We generally prefer a firmer mattress with a soft top, but the side sleeping thing seems to immediately throw us into the soft category. Can anyone with similar size/sleep experience comment on the soft vs. medium BME?
Hi HeatherinMI,
You are certainly looking at a great quality/value choice but when you can’t test a mattress in person then the most reliable source of guidance is always a more detailed phone conversation with a knowledgeable and experienced retailer or manufacturer that has your best interests at heart and who can help “talk you through” the specifics of their mattresses and the properties and “feel” of the materials they are using (fast or slow response, resilience, firmness etc) and the options they have available that may be the best “match” for you based on the information you provide them, any local testing you have done or mattresses you have slept on and liked or other mattresses you are considering that they are familiar with, and the “averages” of other customers that are similar to you. They will know more about “matching” their specific mattress designs and firmness levels to different body types, sleeping positions, and preferences (or to other mattresses that they are familiar with) than anyone else.
I would also keep in mind that there are also no “standard” definitions or consensus of opinions for firmness ratings and different manufacturers can rate their mattresses very differently than others so a mattress that one manufacturer rates as being a specific firmness could be rated very differently by another manufacturer. Different people can also have very different perceptions of firmness and softness compared to others as well and a mattress that feels firm for one person can feel like “medium” for someone else or even “soft” for someone else (or vice versa) depending on their body type, sleeping style, physiology, their frame of reference based on what they are used to, and their individual sensitivity and perceptions. There are also different types of firmness and softness that different people may be sensitive to that can affect how they “rate” a mattress as well (see post #15 here) so different people can also have very different opinions on how two mattresses compare in terms of firmness and some people may rate one mattress as being firmer than another and someone else may rate them the other way around. This is all relative and very subjective and is as much an art as a science.
Side sleepers in general tend to need a softer mattress than back or stomach sleepers and an online retailer will generally suggest a mattress that they believe will have the best chance for success (based on averages) since a return is very costly to an online retailer or manufacturer and it’s in their best interests to make a suggestion that they believe will have the least possible chance of being returned.
Since the only way to know for certain or confirm whether any mattress will be a good “match” for you in terms of comfort, firmness, and PPP or how it will compare to another mattress will be based on your own personal experience … if you aren’t confident that an online mattress will be a good match for you then the return/refund policy and any costs involved would become a much more important part of the “value” of a mattress purchase so you can try out the mattress in your bedroom instead of a showroom with the only risk being the cost of returning a mattress (which is the case of the BME is free) if in the worst case, and in spite of the “best efforts” of everyone involved (both you and the retailer you are buying from), the mattress doesn’t turn out to be as suitable a choice as you hoped for.
Phoenix
Hi Heather, I too had the Alexander hybrid, but like you found the mattress too soft. I am a side sleeper & was concerned about edge support which the Alexander hybrid did do well, it was the sinking in feeling & uneven support that made me return it. I have found the medium BBME to offer not only great support but the edge support is equally fine. I know this is all subjective but another person on the forum who also had an Alexander hybrid had the BBBME soft first & found it way too soft. I would talk to Mario again about what you need, he suggested the medium to me & it’s quite comfortable.
Hi Phoenix!
We can’t thank you enough for creating a nice informative website on such an important topic! Sleep is such a big part of our existence, it’s nice to be able to learn more about ways to improve it – aka buying a quality mattress! After reading pages and pages on TMU, we decided to go with Brooklyn Bedding’s TME (medium comfort level) due to the majority latex construction, rather than memory foam construction…just personal preference I suppose.
Like you mentioned, it did take about a week to get used to the feel of it – we were coming from an older Simmons Beautyrest that was much firmer. After about a week or so, we absolutely loved it. No off-gassing (that we noticed), delivery was quick (as expected), and it didn’t seem to sleep “hot”. The edge support isn’t as solid as a traditional spring mattress with foam encasing, but that’s to be expected…and was not extremely important to us. The construction seems to be very high-quality and we assume it will last for years to come. We also bought one for our guest bedroom and so far, it seems to be a hit.
Thanks again for helping with our decision-making process and I’ll do my best to point friends and family to this website for their own research!
Hi CozySleep,
Thanks for taking the time to share your comments and feedback … I appreciate it.
As you know you made a great quality/value choice … and it’s great to see that it’s working out so well for you.
Congratulations on your new mattress
Phoenix
I’m new here, I just wanted to find the best outlet to sing my praises of my Brooklyn Bedding #bestmattressever. Even if it the hashtag wasn’t being used as their marketing campaign, I’m pretty sure i would still use it to describe my mattress. I ended up choosing this mattress after looking at zillions of options of other latex mattresses. This one seemed to have the best reviews so I took a leap. I ordered the Queen Soft, in the hopes that it would not be too firm as I had read that latex beds can be. Shipping was so fast and convenient. I loved that I didn’t have to schedule a time to have it delivered and that it still came right to my door. The box was heavy but pretty easy to move around and unboxing it was a breeze (and pretty fun watching it grow once it was out of the box). Now to the important part… sleeping on this mattress is AMAZING. I wear a FitBit to bed to track my sleep patterns and i just generally sleep so much more soundly on this mattress than I used to on my old terrible Sleep Number. I’ve noticed less restlessness, less tossing and turning, less waking up in the middle of the night, and have been just overall feeling better in general. My back pain that used to plague me is gone. I used to wake up in the morning and stretch out all my muscles and joints which were all so sore, but now I just wake up in such peace. The softness of the mattress is also perfect for me. It’s very comfortable, but you don’t feel like you’re “sinking in” and it still feels very sturdy. The edges still hold up nicely with pressure which is unusual for soft beds. I can’t stop telling everyone about how great my mattress is! Which is why I’m here. Seriously, people come over to my place and I insist they feel how great the bed is. I can’t say enough how highly I recommend the #bestmattressever
Hi amandarama,
Congratulations on your new mattress
It’s great to hear that you are so happy with your choice as well.
Phoenix
I’m going to be placing my order tomorrow. The Leesa didn’t work out for me with my hip and arm socket pain while sleeping on the side. After discussing with BB sales rep will be going with the soft version. Hopefully this will help out.
Hi npolite,
I’m sorry to hear that your Leesa mattress didn’t work out as well as you hoped for and I hope that the softer BestMattressEver turns out to be a better choice for you.
Congratulations on your new mattress
I’m looking forward to your comments and feedback once you’ve received it and have had the chance to sleep on it for a bit.
Phoenix
I started my search for a new bed after about 3 years of on and off neck and back pain. I’m going to share a little about the pain side, as well as some preliminary info about Brooklyn Bedding. I have not received my bed yet, but I placed the order today. I am a side sleeper as well and hope this may help anyone with a similar profile. That said, keep in mind bedding is highly subjective and deals with a multitude of factors including preference, body shape, and etc. (as Phoenix will surely tell you )
About the pain…
Over the last 6 months it has really intensified to the point there is has become all “on” and never an off period for the pain. There’s been times when turning my head left and right has been painful.
One thing I’ve discovered along the way is a lacrosse ball. During my yearly doctor checkup, I mentioned my pain to my doctor and he recommended physical therapy. While researching the physical therapy I read that a lot of therapists will give patients a lacrosse ball so that they can do some self=healing pressure point release on their own at home in between sessions.
The lacrosse ball has been a revelation. For $2.00 I’ve been able to get a lot the knots out of my neck and shoulder. The ball is also what led to me realize the problem was mostly my bed, as I never realized how tight my hips were until I tried it. Until then I thought the main culprit was sitting at my desk job for 40 hrs per week (although its a factor of course).
The ball didn’t solve it completely, but it lessened the pain from severe to manageable so I highly recommend this to anyone with neck and back pain. I also took a standing mirror, laid it sideways next to the bed, and stripped down to my underpants and recorded myself laying on my bed. The underpants part is key (and surprising relevant to this post). I made sure the top lining of my underpants was horizontally level to the ground when standing. This allowed me to not only see the curve in my spine while laying on my existing mattress (firm Ikea Sultan), but the “rim” of my underpants very clearly angled towards my shoulders instead of being nearly perpendicular to the plane of the bed. Overall, my side profile from shoulders to hips looked like a V, and moreso than what’s justified by my natural body shape.
On to the bed…
When I started my search for a new bed, I recalled an ad I heard for Casper and loved the idea of trying it for 100 nights with no hassle returns. My research began. I reached out to someone at Casper, and the rep said they consider the firmness to be about 7.5. Obviously this is very subjective, but when ordering from the interwebs it is inherent that your decision will be partially based on subjective data. So it’s just a data point.
I decided the Casper was too firm for my side sleeping. After reading/comparing a ton of similar options, I quasi-decided on the Leesa as I read that it is most likely a 6.5 in comparison to the Casper. Researching the Leesa is what led me here.
I continued to read and was very intrigued by Brooklyn Bedding’s 3 levels of firmness, as well as their presence and seemingly great customer service. I am 5’11" and weigh 150 lbs with hips and shoulders that are wider than my waist (opposed to a boxy shape). I need something that allows my hips and shoulders to sink a little bit, while also being supporting enough that my entire body doesn’t sink together emulating a flat ground-like surface. I am hoping the Queen Soft will be perfect for me. I joined an online Chat session with this in mind, and Mario recommended a soft as well.
I will post an update after I receive the bed and get used to it a little. I also wanted to commend Mario and Brooklyn Bedding for their excellent customer service, I had a rather unique request that I submitted knowing full well it was a long shot, but Mario said they will figure out a way to work it out. So kudos to him and their team. They had every right to say no, and I wouldn’t have minded.
To top it off, they currently have a promo for a free shredded foam pillow and sheet set with purchase. I couldn’t be more pleased with my experience thus far, and hopefully the mattress experience is just as great. I’m confident it will be.
As 100 days have passed but still it’s soft that’s why think it’ll lusting for long time. Which brand you bought? I also have a plan to buy a new one for my aged mom. Now, she is feeling pain on his back that’s why I need to buy.
Hi Karln2003,
Thanks for taking the time to share your comments, insights, and ideas … I appreciate it.
Your idea with the underwear is very interesting and could also be adapted to outer clothing as well and could certainly be a useful reference point for lateral (side) sleepers.
Most importantly … congratulations on your new mattress
As you know I think you made a great quality/value choice and I’m looking forward to your comments once you’ve received it and have had the chance to try it out.
Phoenix
We wound up ordering a BB Medium firm King. So far, it’s just too firm! Some noticeable aches and pains in the arm/leg areas, arms falling asleep, etc.
- We are considering trying their soft version, but thought we might try out some other brands first.
- The Leesa is up on our list, but like the Brooklyn medium, it’s a “6 out of 10” on the firmness scale.
So, is there any other chance that other factors besides “firmness” might make a Leesa workable where the Brooklyn is not? More contouring, or softer support foams? - If not, we might go the Helix route just so we can customize to our particular side-sleeping needs.
Hi znosaro,
I switched your post into a new topic of its own with a more descriptive title because your questions about other mattresses were outside of the scope of the original topic you posted in.
I’m sorry to hear that your BME mattress was too firm for you but the good news is that you had the foresight to purchase a mattress with a great return policy so you could try it out without any risk.
If your mattress is too firm then some of the comments in post #2 here may also be helpful.
I would keep in mind that there are no “standard” definitions or consensus of opinions for firmness ratings and different manufacturers can rate their mattresses very differently than others so a mattress that one manufacturer rates as being a specific firmness could be rated very differently by another manufacturer. Different people can also have very different perceptions of firmness and softness compared to others as well and a mattress that feels firm for one person can feel like “medium” for someone else or even “soft” for someone else (or vice versa) depending on their body type, sleeping style, physiology, their frame of reference based on what they are used to, and their individual sensitivity and perceptions. There are also different types of firmness and softness that different people may be sensitive to that can affect how they “rate” a mattress as well (see post #15 here) so different people can also have very different opinions on how two mattresses compare in terms of firmness and some people may rate one mattress as being firmer than another and someone else may rate them the other way around. This is all relative and very subjective and is as much an art as a science.
In other words … the only way to know for certain whether another mattress would feel softer or firmer to you and “how much” it would feel softer or firmer (particularly if it’s rated in a similar firmness range) and whether it would be a good “match” for you in terms of comfort, firmness, and PPP (Posture and alignment, Pressure relief, and your own Personal preferences) will be based on your own personal experience.
When you can’t test a mattress in person then the most reliable source of guidance is always a more detailed phone conversation with a knowledgeable and experienced retailer or manufacturer that has your best interests at heart and who can help “talk you through” the specifics of their mattresses and the properties and “feel” of the materials they are using (fast or slow response, resilience, firmness etc) and the options they have available that may be the best “match” for you based on the information you provide them, any local testing you have done or mattresses you have slept on and liked or other mattresses you are considering that they are familiar with, and the “averages” of other customers that are similar to you. They will know more about “matching” their specific mattress designs and firmness levels to different body types, sleeping positions, and preferences (or to other mattresses that they are familiar with) than anyone else.
While again nobody can speak to how any specific mattress will “feel” for someone else because this is too subjective and relative to different body types, sleeping positions, and individual preferences, sensitivities, and circumstances and you are the only one that can feel what you feel on a mattress … outside of PPP and how well you will sleep on a mattress which is the most important part of “value”, the next most important part of the value of a mattress purchase is durability which is all about how long you will sleep well on a mattress. This is the part of your research that you can’t see or “feel” and assessing the durability and useful life of a mattress depends on knowing the specifics of its construction and the type and quality of the materials inside it regardless of the name of the manufacturer on the label (or how a mattress feels in a showroom or in your bedroom when it is relatively new) so I would always make sure that you find out information listed here so you can compare the materials and components to the quality/durability guidelines here to make sure there are no lower quality materials or weak links in a mattress that would be a cause for concern relative to your weight range in terms of the durability and useful life of a mattress before making any purchase.
You can also see some comments about the type and quality/durability of the materials in the Leesa and the Helix mattresses (and many of the other simplified choice mattresses as well) in post #2 here in the simplified choice mattress topic.
Phoenix
Hi Znosaro,
My wife and I have tried 3 different on line beds so far. We first tried the Leesa which we liked, but became concerned about the durability of what we consider a long term investment. We bought the Leesa just prior to discovering this site. We then tried the Kiss mattress, but both my wife and I were very uncomfortable on it right from the get go and could no longer stand sleeping on it after a week. Heck with the break in period! We have now been sleeping on the BME for about a month and so far are very happy with it. Based on our weights, me at 180 lbs and my wife at 128 lbs, and that we are both primarily side sleepers, Mario recommended the soft version. We found that it is still reasonably firm and gives us good support, but with the feel of the mattress cover, gave us the "cushy’ feeling we were looking for. Because of a knee injury, I had to sleep on my back for several nights and woke up with a slightly sore lower back which makes me question whether the soft version would be good for a back sleeper. Being a side sleeper most of the time, this is really not much of an issue for me. In any case, we are happy with the mattress so far but will make our final judgement on it closer to the end of our trial period. If we don’t stay with this mattress which at this point seems unlikely, we will be trying the more customizable Dreamfoam Aloe.
I got the brooklyn bedding queen size right before back surgery. Before I had the surgery I had to sleep on extremely firm beds but I noticed that “medium” firmness was soft but supported me enough that I wasn’t in my usual pain. I also got and adjustable foundation which works great with this latex matress so that is raises and lowers. This has been key for recovery which has had me laying in bed much over the past few months.
The only hesitation to think about is that the sides are softer on latex. It doesn’t matter what brand you go with. I would probably have gotten the king instead of the queen if two people ever sleep on it because of this. You are forced to sleep a little more towards the center of the bed than you need to on a traditional spring mattress. I am very pleased with the purchase and very pleased with brooklyn beddings service.