Hello,
First, thanks so much to Phoenix and everyone for providing this forum – it’s an incredible resource!
My wife and I are looking to purchase a new mattress, and would appreciate some help in deciding on our next steps.
Background constraints: I’m 6 feet / 170-180 lbs, she’s 5’2" / 130-135 lbs. For an extra challenge, she has chronic muscle pain (legs / back / shoulders / neck … the works) and has found that both wool and memory foam in mattresses cause her allergy problems (even Oeko-Tex certified memory foam, even long after unpackaging). Also, she spends a fair amount of time sitting in bed and with her electric blanket. So, we’re pretty much restricted to mattresses with latex comfort layers and which use hydrated silica, boric acid, or no flame retardant. We’re located in Berkeley, across the bay from San Francisco. We’re both mixed back/side sleepers.
So far, we’ve been to European Sleepworks (sleepworks.com) and Nest Bedding.
At European Sleepworks, everyone was super helpful but there was definitely nothing that worked for both of us. All their mattresses come with two choices for the comfort layer (soft / firm) and two choices for the base layer (soft / firm). We agreed that out of the options the soft-over-firm was the best. However, while my wife liked the Nordic HDM and the Alpine HDM (the Nordic a bit more than the Alpine), in both of these, when lying on my back, my butt sank in deep while the rest of me didn’t, so I ended up with terrible lumbar arching. On the other hand, their Latex HDM/Latex Classic were “ok” for me (basically it was so firm that I didn’t sink in too much and had ok posture, though my lumbar arch was pretty much floating totally unsupported above the mattress surface), and totally unusable for her. We did at least learn that wool was definitely out – we spent a few hours trying out mattresses with nice clean cotton sheets, and she’s still itching two days later.
At Nest, most of their mattresses either had memory foam (which is how we learned that it was definitely out), or had similar issues to the ones at European Sleepworks – with one exception! The Pure Latex Bliss “Nutrition” was pretty good for both of us, for both back and side sleepign. Not perfect – she ranked it in second place after the Nordic HDM, and when back-sleeping I still felt like my lumbar was somewhat unsupported. For me it was though probably the best non-memory-foam mattress we’ve tried (and the only one I could seriously consider sleeping on long term).
But, it’s $3400 in queen size, and if that one is good then it seems to us that there’s almost certainly something similar to it that would be even better. And quite possibly cheaper as well! But how do we find it? Just randomly walking around to different show-rooms doesn’t seem like a very effective use of time at this point, given how few hits we’ve had so far. The Nutrition is three layers of Talalay latex (with a hydrated silica barrier): 3 inches of 27 ILD, over 2 inches of 19 ILD, over 6 inches of 36 ILD. I don’t really understand the logic behind this medium → soft → firm construction, or why it seems to work for us – does anyone have any idea? What kinds of mattresses should we be trying that are similar? And what’s our best strategy at this point – are there any other local stores that are likely to have similar things in stock, or should we start talking local custom-build places like Famous Foam, or…?
Thanks in advance for any thoughts!