First of all ,let me say, you are doing a great service with this site. I cannot stress enough that a mattress is purely an individual taste, or a compromise between husband and wife, usually the husband does the compromising. FYI once you pull off all the foams and poly it is the support system that really counts. I saw someone mention a Sealy hereâŚNever mentioned if they were thinking of a Sealy Posture Pedic or not. Just beware, if its a Sealy and doesnât say Posture Pedic, you will only enjoy the same benefits of 80% of the mattresses on the market. Sealy Posture pedic, Serta Perfect Sleeper, Simmons BeautyRest all pertain to the coil systems used inside the mattress. Any other coil mattresses carrying the Simmons, Sealy, or Serta names are made of the same old Bonnell coil system. A fine support system but as you could tell from the warranty, it does not hold up well over timeâŚUsually around 5 years tops. Memory foam mattresses are great, but will last only as long as the Base Foam underneath. This is why a Tempurpedic weighs so much, and you could carry the Chinese imitation under your arm. If it can be rolled and compressed so it will fit in a roll box, chances are that the support will not hold up. Always find out the density of the Poly foam base. I have been in the Mattress business for 25 years Good Luck searching, I know it is not an easy task.
Hi johnny33426,
Iâm not clear about why you are resurrecting some old topics and posting some somewhat ârandomâ information that isnât really relevant to the topic itself but some of the information you posted is very different from the information on the site and IMO is somewhat misleading.
I certainly donât agree with this. While the type of coil system in a mattress can certainly make a difference in how it feels and performs and different types of innerspring will interact with the foams and other materials above them in different ways ⌠in terms of durability the weakest link in a mattress will generally be the comfort materials above the coils regardless of the coil system that is used in the mattress. There is more about the many variables that can affect the durability and useful life of a mattress relative to each person in post #4 here. The density/quality and durability of the foams and other materials used above the innersprings is one of the biggest issues in the mainstream market ⌠not the quality of the coil systems they use.
There have been some changes over the last 25 years that you may not be aware of. While there arenât many members here that have read the tutorial post that would even consider any of the manufacturers that you mentioned in the first place regardless of the coil system that they use ⌠all three manufacturers (and most other manufacturers as well) use a range of coil systems in their mattresses depending on the model lineup. Simmons has always specialized in pocket coils in their Posturepedic line but Sealy is now using pocket coils in their Posturepedic line and Serta is using pocket coils in the iSeries line as well. Some lower end Simmons BeautySleep mattresses also use a pocket coil but they are a different design and the coil count is lower than the Posturepedic line. Other models in their BeautySleep line use an offset coil. Some of the lower end Sealy mattresses use their classic offset coil and lower end Serta Mattresses can use a continuous coil or an offset coil as well.
The warranty of a mattress has very little to do with the useful life of a mattress and how long it may be before you need to replace it. Warranties only cover defects in a mattress and not the gradual (or often rapid) loss of comfort and support that is the main reason people will need to replace their mattress. There is more about mattress warranties in post #174 here.
While I certainly agree with you that an informed consumer needs to know the density of all the foam layers in a mattress including a polyfoam base layer (see this article) ⌠your comments here are inaccurate as well. Even low quality/density memory foam is a higher density foam than the polyfoam used in the base layers of a memory foam mattress so most of the weight in a memory foam mattress comes from the memory foam. There are many other manufacturers (including some Chinese imports) that are using higher density memory foams in their mattresses similar to the density of the Tempurpedic mattresses that will have a similar weight. There are also other memory foam mattresses that compare themselves to Tempurpedic (including some Chinese imports) that do use lower density memory foams (often 3 lbs and lower) and these will tend to be the ones that weigh less than a Tempurpedic or other memory foam mattresses that use higher density memory foams. The weakest link in a memory foam mattress (just like an innerspring mattress) will also usually be the quality/density of the memory foam used in the memory foam comfort layers ⌠not in the polyfoam support core underneath them (although this can also depend on the weight of the person on the mattress).
Hopefully some of the information here will help you provide a little more accurate information to your customers and catch up to some of the changes in the industry over the last few years.
Phoenix
Your site as a repository of information about the mattress, and assess knowledge helps buyers find suitable mattress. Thank for your sharing
Hi Tungpv,
Welcome ⌠and Iâm glad you found us as well 
I hope you have the chance to let us know what you end up deciding.
Phoenix
Iâm very glad I found this site; I wish I had found it before I purchased my current mattress. I am wondering if anyone can comment on the support and pressure relief of all latex versus a latex-coil hybrid?
Hi Leesee,
Welcome to the Mattress Forum!
There is no one answer for what you are asking, as there are entirely too many variables involved, such as personal variables like somatotype, BMI, flexibility, strength, personal preferences, sensitivities, sleeping styles, physical issuesâŚand then product variables such as componentry used, layer thickness, ILDs of layers, number and ordering of layers, material resilience and hysteresis, zoning, etc. A mattress can be made using springs or latex for the support core and offer both very good support and pressure point relief, and it really comes down to personal preference.
Post #28 speaks more to latex versus springs for a support unit. This post speaks more to the two basic functions of a mattress â support and comfort.
Phoenix
Phoenix, thank you for your quick response and for this site. Iâll read the posts you suggested.
Hi Leesee,
Sounds great!
Phoenix
I BOUGHT A SOMNIGEL VIGOR MATTRESS 2 YEARS AGO FROM SLEEPâS, AND WAS TOLD THAT IT COULD BE USED ON A ADJUSTABLE BED. ONE SIDE OF THE MATTRESS HAS BUCKLE , SINKING AND SAGGING. I CAN NOT SLEEP ON THAT SIDE OF THE MATTRESS WHICH CAUSE BAD BACKACHES AND PAIN. I PAID OVER 6 HUNDRED DOLLARS FOR THE MATTRESS. WHAT TO DOâŚI HAVE NEVER EXPERIENCE A MATTRESS LIKE THIS. I AM A DIABETIC AND THIS MATTRESS IS CAUSING PROBLEMS. WHO CAN I CONTACTâŚP.S AND I;M NOT A BIG PERSONâŚHELP!!
CDASENT - Sorry to hear about the problems with your mattress. The Somnigel line which was sold by Sleepyâs was manufactured by King Koil, and Sleepyâs has been bought out by Mattress Firm. So Iâd suggest that you start by contacting Mattress Firm. I donât believe that theyâre currently representing the King Koil brand so if they canât help you then contact King Koil directly for manufacturer support. Hopefully youâve used a good quality mattress protector to keep it clean because in general any mattress warranty is invalid if the mattress is soiled in any way. Hope this helps, good luck and please let us know how it works out for you.
King Koil Customer Service
Hi CDASENT,
Welcome to the Mattress Forum!
Iâm sorry to hear about your problems with your current mattress. 
Sweet Dreams (thanks Sweet Dreams!) is correct that these were made for Sleepyâs by King Koil (he had/has one), and as he mentioned Sleepyâs was bought by Mattress Firm. But you can still get help for an inspection for a warranty claim, as all warranty claims, inquiries, and correspondence are handled by the Sleepyâs/Mattress Firm warranty coordinators. You can call them at (866)-942-3551 and a representative will assist you with your issue.
One thing you mentioned is that this is on an adjustable bed base. Are you sure that there is no damage to the base of your adjustable bed that could be causing your sag? While not common, there can be a break in the frame network or one of the platform boards of the adjustable bed.
I hope everything turns out well for you.
Phoenix
Hello, I would like to post a question regarding slat foundation. I donât see an option to open a new topic
Hi ib4u.
We are working on the back end to set up things for the new expert sections.
TMU is implementing a new design element â Talk to the Experts and while it is under construction, we have eliminated âNew Topicsâ for Phoenix so we can effectively service consumer members and manage the increased workload demand. However, we stared allowing âNew Topicsâ for Experts and you would be able to ask our Experts directly a question
I suggest that you for now you start a New topic here:
Thank you for your understanding and I look forward to seeing you on the forum.
Phoenix
I am looking for a Firm memory foam mattress, looking for recommendations hereâŚ
Hi carybimmer.
Welcome to our Mattress Forum!
While we can certainly help with âhowâ to choose ⌠Itâs not possible to make specific suggestions or recommendations for either a mattress, manufacturers/retailers, or combinations of materials or components because the first âruleâ of mattress shopping is to always remember that you are the only one that can feel what you feel on a mattress and there are too many unknowns, variables, and personal preferences involved that are unique to each person to use a formula or for anyone to be able to predict or make a specific suggestion or recommendation about which mattress or combination of materials and components or which type of mattress would be the best âmatchâ for you in terms of âcomfortâ, firmness, or PPP (Posture and alignment, Pressure relief, and your own Personal preferences) or how a mattress will âfeelâ to you or compare to another mattress based on specs (either yours or a mattress), sleeping positions, health conditions, or âtheory at a distanceâ that can possibly be more reliable than your own careful testing (hopefully using the testing guidelines in step 4 of the tutorial) or your own personal sleeping experience (see mattress firmness/comfort levels in post #2 here).
Iâm not sure what youâve read since you found the site but just in case you havenât read it yet ⌠the first place to start your research is the mattress shopping tutorial here which includes all the basic information, steps, and guidelines that can help you make the best possible choice ⌠and perhaps more importantly know how and why to avoid the worst ones.
Two of the most important links in the tutorial that I would especially make sure youâve read are post #2 here which has more about the different ways to choose a suitable mattress (either locally or online) that is the best âmatchâ for you in terms of âcomfortâ, firmness, and PPP (Posture and alignment, Pressure relief, and your own Personal preferences) that can help you assess and minimize the risks of making a choice that doesnât turn out as well as you hoped for and post #13 here which has more about the most important parts of the âvalueâ of a mattress purchase which can help you make more meaningful quality/value comparisons between mattresses in terms of suitability (how well you will sleep), durability (how long you will sleep well), and the overall value of a mattress compared to your other finalists based on all the parts of your personal value equation that are most important to you (including the price of course and the options you have available after a purchase if your choice doesnât turn out as well as you hoped for).
While again nobody can speak to how any specific mattress will âfeelâ for someone else or whether it will be a good âmatchâ in terms of comfort, firmness, and PPP because this is too subjective and relative to different body types, sleeping positions, and individual preferences, sensitivities, and circumstances and you are the only one that can feel what you feel on a mattress ⌠outside of PPP (which is the most important part of âvalueâ), the next most important part of the value of a mattress purchase is durability which is all about how long you will sleep well on a mattress. This is the part of your research that you canât see or âfeelâ and assessing the durability and useful life of a mattress depends on knowing the specifics of its construction and the type and quality of the materials inside it regardless of the name of the manufacturer on the label or how a mattress feels in a showroom or when it is relatively new so I would always make sure that you find out the information listed here so you can compare the quality of the materials and components to the durability guidelines here to make sure there are no lower quality materials or weak links in a mattress that would be a cause for concern relative to the durability and useful life of a mattress before making any purchase.
I hope this gives you a good start with your research and once youâve had the chance to read through the information provided and narrow down your research to a few finalists I or any of the Expert members of the site would be most than happy to help.
Phoenix
We have just moved to the Tampa area and are looking for a new mattress. We would really like to know if there are any brick and mortar locations whereby we can see and test any of your recommended companies. We are willing to travel within 1 to 3 hours of the Tampa area. Also, with all the research we have been doing on your website, I believe a Talalay latex and springs would be what we are looking for as our BMI is a bit above average. We are willing to consider other types as well. Thank you for all that you offer consumers and will be looking forward to your reply.
Hi - Luma Sleep seems to be about 25 - 30 miles from you. They will have their East Coast show room up and running by June 18th ( their production is out of CA ). If Latex/hybrid is something you are looking for - I highly recommend. I did discuss BMI with Stefano and they can customize for you ( I am 6â2 and 250 )
Dan
thank you for your quick response.
Hi loueylou.
Welcome to our Mattress Forum!
This is correct ⌠within a few weeks Luma Sleep will open the doors to their new showroom in Tampa, FL. Thanks gauss66 for breaking the news!
Lumaâs three lineups (which includes hybrid latex mattress) are excellent quality value products to suit most needs and preferences. Meanwhile, you might wish to visit two other manufacturing trusted members. About one and a half hours driving distance youâve got Bedmasters here They have been making mattresses for a long time and use high-quality materials including Talalay latex, memory foam and higher quality polyfoam/innersprings and two-sided mattresses which is a real bonus. On the other side of Orlando from you about 2 hours driving distance, you have Fox Mattress in Volusia County that also carries a large variety of mattresses and manufactures 2 sided mattresses. All three mentioned companies are Trusted Manufacturing Members of this site and like all the members here I think very highly of and consider them to compete well with âthe bestâ in the industry. They are very knowledgeable and skilled in guiding their customers to make the best possible choices out of the many options they have available.
Best of luck with your testing
Phoenix
Hello again-- different thread, hope this is ok
So, I am looking to replace my 12 year old Simmons Beautyrest. After scouring these forums (THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HOSTING THESE!), I am considering a myriad of options.
Me: I am a 6â tall male, approx 250 lbs. Stomach sleeper
Wife: approx 5â 7", approx 125. Side sleeper
Looking for a King size
We started by looking at a local mattress manufacturer with a stellar reputation. They recommended an inhouse made Talaly topped mattress. Its 5" of âhigh density foamâ topped with 6" of Talalay latex. The salesperson wasnt 100% sure on the specs (he will get back to me) but the lated is ILD 36 and the HD foam is 28 ILB
On my own, I have started looking (after reading ALL 20 pages!) through the sticky on âsimplified mattress choicesâ aka bed in a box.
I reached out to Sleep on Latex and had a great discussion. I also left a voicemail with Arizona Premium Mattress as well.
For Sleep on Latex, they recommended a medium firmness. I am a bit concerned about the âfeelâ of dunlop vs talalay. That they are a trusted partner here makes me more comfortable with trying this out, but I am still hesitant. If only I could see a demo bed!
The main thing is this: I really loved the local mattress manufacturers offering, but it is about 3x the price of the SOL offering. My previous mattress (more in line with the SOL price point, at the time) lasted 12 years, I do now know if its reasonable to expect more than, say, 7 years out of the next one.
Rather long winded. I apologize. If anyone can help me make a reasonably balanced decision, Iâd appreciate it. Basically: what is so different between the bed itself, of the local option, that would make one jump up and say âwow-- this bed has X feature which is 1000x more desirable than a bed in a boxâ?
Also, is it confirmed that SOL has no memory foam in it? Thanks in advance for all the help! (and I thought car shopping was hard!)