Defective mattress needs replacement

[phoenix]

Hi Fergie3672,

Thanks for helping me narrow it down. I popped into Jordan’s today for an initial peak. The guy steered me right back to Simmons and seals, showed me one Jordan’s bed only because I kept saying I don’t like memory foam, I like latex. Memory foam always feels hot, and ye all have their gimmicks on their newest technology fixing that, but I am sceptic all. What are your thoughts on that?

There are many “versions” of memory foam just like there are many versions of latex so it would depend on the specifics of the memory foam in a mattress you are considering but in very general terms latex is the most breathable of all the foam materials and is more breathable and temperature regulating than memory foam.

There is more about some of the ways that are often used to cool down memory foam in post #6 here and there is more about the many variables that can affect sleeping temperature (besides just the type of foam used in a mattress) in post #2 here and the posts it links to.

I would treat the type of materials or mattress as more of a preference choice than a “better/worse” choice because each person’s preferences can be very different (assuming that both are good quality and durable versions of each material) but there is more about the pros and cons of memory foam vs latex in post #2 here.

So looking at the Jordan’s brand online, I see a few possibilities I’d like to go back and try out. There are the lanai and Kauai latex mattresses and the longridge euro top latex innerspring hybrid. I’m especially curious about e last one, since my. Urgent bed that I do like is a latex innerspring hybrid. I don’t know why he didn’t suggest it other then it is cheaper…
My one concern on the 2 latex beds is, after reading your tutorials, I noticed the support foam under the latex and the numbers (1. Something density???) seemed like a red flag. Am I misunderstanding your foam advice or should I avoid them? Thanks

The Lanai uses 1" of 1.2 lb polyfoam in the quilting (which is a low quality/density material) and another 1" of 1.2 lb polyfoam in the top comfort layer which is a total of 2" which is “on the edge” of the thickness I would normally suggest in the upper layers of a mattress although it’s better than many other mainstream mattresses. I would normally try and keep to “about an inch or so or less” of lower quality or unknown materials in the top layers and once you reach 2" or more it can be a weak link in the mattress. The latex in the mattress is a high quality and durable material and the 1.8 lb polyfoam support core is also inside the guidelines that would be a suitable choice.

The Kauai only has 1" of 1.2 lb polyfoam in the quilting so it’s inside the guidelines that I would normally suggest and there are no obvious weak links in this mattress (the same comments would apply about the latex and the 1.8 lb polyfoam support core).

The Longridge also has only 1" of 1.2 lb polyfoam in the quilting layer as well which is also inside the guidelines and there are no obvious weak links in this mattress either (again the same comments would apply about the latex and the innerspring is also a good quality component that wouldn’t be a weak link in this mattress).

Of course these comments are only about durability and I would keep in mind that PPP (Posture and alignment, Pressure relief, and Personal preferences) are just as important a part of the “value” of a mattress purchase although if a mattress is too firm you can always add additional softness and pressure relief by adding a good topper and it’s much more difficult to “firm up” a mattress that is too soft because this would normally involve removing and replacing the foam layers that are too soft (or exchanging the mattress) rather than adding another layer on top of them.

Phoenix