Dreamfoam new Arctic Dreams mattress similar to Tuft and Needle?

[phoenix]

Hi jw777,

Thank you for pointing out my spelling errors. :ohmy: It is of course the Arctic Dreams. For some reason my fingers don’t work well with that word.

It seems to me that despite their excuses, the majority of the mattress is made with polyfoam with density that is definitely less than 1.8 pounds per cubic foot, which Phoenix has previously stated many times as a lower limit, below which it is likely a weak link.

Your characterization of the re-classification of this base polyfoam as an “excuse” is inaccurate, and a bit confusing to me. It is fact in the industry that manufacturers will classify anything above 1.55 lb. polyfoam as high-density (moving up to the 1.8 lb. designation), but to the credit of Dreamfoam they are being more conservative and accurate in their designation. There isn’t enough of this responsible representation of component information within our industry, and it’s something that I applaud as a welcome breath of fresh air.

Regarding density, it is true I recommend 1.8 lb. or higher in density, unless you are in a lower budget range (see this post), where a 1.5 lb. would be acceptable, and this particular core represents a very high value in a lower-budget range product.

Of course, as you say, the price is also low relative to many other mattresses.

This is very true, and it is exactly what this mattress is designed to be – an inexpensive mattress using foams of a higher quality than what you’d normally find in its price range.

It seems that this is a case where you get what you pay for, or rather, you do not get what you do not pay for – high-quality foam with good durability and longevity.

Again, your “tone” seems somewhat bent on disparaging this mattress, which isn’t represented as anything but what it is – a budget-prices mattress that uses good quality materials for the price point. And “getting what you pay for” is only accomplished when you’re an educated consumer and find out the information listed here. I personally don’t like to use that phrase, as it implies that anything less expensive is low-quality, while anything more expensive high-quality. Of course, any casual reader on this forum who’s done just an hour of research will know that this certainly doesn’t apply to the mattress industry (and of course many other industries as well).

But at about half the price of a mattress with higher quality foam, it only has to last half as long as a more expensive mattress in order for people to get their money’s worth. So it may be worth considering, despite the weak link, as long as people realize that the foam quality is a step below that of some more expensive mattresses.

Price by itself is not a representation of product quality, and the Arctic Dreams has better quality foam than many other more expensive mattresses, as been mentioned many times in this thread and in others. Knowing the componentry used within a mattress (which is not in question with this product) is the only way to assess if it is appropriate for someone as it relates to their particular needs and personal value equation. There is no debate, even from comments that forum members have left with their conversations with Dreamfoam and my own personal conversations with them, about the focus of this product as a good value, budget-priced mattress.

Thanks again for catching my spelling errors and allowing me to help clarify the specifications of this mattress and expound further on budget-priced mattresses.

Phoenix