Haynes Restonic Utopia Talalay Latex - anyone have any experience with this mattress?

[phoenix]

Hi AT,

I got this mattress and it is actually 13". The top 3 inches are quilting with wool and silk, and some gel foam in quilting (rep had said less than a 1/2 inch previously.) I’m still not 100% on that, and was a bit annoyed that I didn’t bring a ruler to the store and push for more information when the initial specs of the layers did not add up to the total.

While I don’t know for certain … if the quilting is 3" thick then it’s more likely that there would be more than 1/2" of foam in the quilting (possibly closer to 2").

One fine tuning issue I’m still struggling with is heat retention. I just don’t like the feeling of built-up warmth, which I especially feel under my back, as a back sleeper. After a month I’m still trying to figure out a way to troubleshoot this one issue for this otherwise ideal mattress (in other words, my body has not adjusted to it).

I have tried two versions of Outlast mattress pads with Gold and Gold Plus ratings, a Cirriform and Nacreous. They did not work, and the padding in them seemed to counteract the cooling benefits provided by the quilting shape to the top layer in the bed.

I tried a cooling gel foam mattress pad, convoluted 1.5 inches. It did not work, and the softness of it completely changed the performance of the bed. I cradled in it and woke up with neck pain.

I am sleeping with a Sleep Tite mattress protector now. I’m wondering if there is a mattress protector out there that is more breathable? It does seem slightly cooler without the protector… But I’m hesitant to sleep with no protection whatsoever.

While it’s not always possible to to track down temperature regulation issues for any particular person on a specific mattress because there are so many variables involved (including your room temperature and humidity, your sheets and bedding and bedclothes, your mattress protector or any mattress pads you are using, and where you are in the “oven to iceberg” range) and some people can sleep warmer on mattresses that most people are generally fine with … there is more about tracking down a potential cause or causes for temperature regulation issues (at least to the degree possible for a specific mattress) in post #2 here and the posts it links to that may be helpful.

The thin “membrane” type of protector you are using could certainly be contributing to the temperature issues you are having because they can restrict airflow to some degree and some people sleep warmer on them. There is more about the pros and cons of different types of mattress protectors in post #89 here.

I’m also considering buying a Celsion 1 inch latex topper (or another thickness if recommended). It’s offered in three firmness versions, 15, 21, and 27 ILD. Do you think that would help with coolness? Do you think I could get it in a firmness that complemented the bed, and didn’t cause me to “crater”, like with the gel foam topper? If my bed is a “medium” firmness, which firmness would you recommend, if so?

A topper can be a good solution for a mattress that is too firm and that just needs some additional softness and pressure relief (as long as it doesn’t have any soft spots or sagging in the sleeping surface) but I would be cautious about using a topper to try and “fix” temperature regulation issues because if a mattress is already a good match for you in terms of PPP then a topper can add too much additional softness and you could end up exchanging a temperature regulation issue for a back ache that is the result of sleeping on a mattress that is too soft. If some of the suggestions in the previous link (such as choosing a different mattress protector or different sheets etc) aren’t enough to solve any temperature regulation issues you are experiencing then I would consider a thinner mattress pad or topper made from natural fibers such as wool that can help maintain a more neutral sleeping temperature and have the least possible effect on the overall comfort and support of the mattress.

Phoenix