Help! Need a topper. In so much pain

[phoenix]

Hi Susiebmck,

Welcome to the Mattress Forum!

5 years ago we bought a king Pure Latex Bliss Pamper. We wanted something non-toxic and got a good deal on the floor model. Within a week or two we added a 2" PLB topper bc the Pamper was just too firm. I typically sleep on my back and have not had any issues with the bed until recently. My husband is a side sleeper and has been complaining about back and shoulder/chest pain for a while. I’m now pregnant and having to sleep on my side and OH MY GOSH, it hurts.

You are correct, the Pamper is a firm mattress, and if you sleep on your side, which you’ve switched to now, you certainly would start to notice that firmness. It uses their “firmest” core (around 40 ILD Talalay versus their “normal” 36 ILD)) with 2" of 21 ILD Talalay on top. The 2" topper you added (assuming it is the PTB ultra plush) would be around 15 ILD Talalay, and at 2" would offer “a bit” more plushness. People who need “quite a bit” of extra plushness usually choose to go with 3" of ultra plush Talalay.

I spoke with one salesperson that mentioned latex getting firmer over time.

Foams tend to soften over time with use, not get firmer. Only at the point of extreme aging with oxidation and UV exposure will it tend to feel firmer, on the outside layers first.

We just made the mistake of buying too firm. So I’m looking to replace the topper in hopes of finding some relief. Particularly interested in the Savvy Rest Vitality. It’s a 3" soft natural Talalay.

This topper is 3" of 100% NR Vita Talalay from Radium. It is Cradle to Cradle Gold certified. It rates out at approximately a Talalay Soft (N5) rating at a range of 15-20 ILD. If you had the Vitality next to a 3" of the Ultra Plush Pure Talalay Bliss topper, the Vitality has bit more of a “dense” soft feel. The covering on the Vitality is organic certified knit; the covering on the PTB is 98% polyester, 2% elastin.

The Vitality certainly uses very good quality materials, but I would place it in the higher-price category and I’d tell you to make some careful value comparisons with other similar items that are available. Many of the members listed in post #21 here offer toppers using similar, if not the exact same foam used in the Vitality at a more affordable price.

If you do end up purchasing a new 3" topper, make sure that you keep your 2" topper. You may wish to use that on top of the 3" if you need some extra cushioning while sleeping on your side during your pregnancy, and then perhaps go back to using only a 3" topper. It’s nice to have the configurability options.

I’ll look forward to what you decide to do and your results.

Phoenix