HELP with recommendation

Hi Triumph3,

Thanks for clarifying that you have the Beautyrest world class royal palms firm. I know you mentioned it in your original post so I don’t know where I somehow got the idea that you had a Beautyrest Black. The good news is that at least you are “locked in” to a lower budget range although my comments about too much lower quality polyfoam would still apply and the World Class has lower quality materials than the Black line. I’ve corrected the name of your mattress in my original reply.

There aren’t any mattresses they sell that meet the guidelines I normally suggest which are “no more than about an inch or so of lower quality or unknown materials” in the comfort layers. If price was no object I would consider an Aireloom if I could confirm that they met the guidelines here in terms of PPP and the quality of the materials inside them but they are also about twice the cost that I would consider paying for them.

[quote]If you absolutley had to pick one that is sold there (seeing how Im locked in there now) Shop Mattresses Online | Raymour & Flanigan

could you make a recommendation- I know you do not recommend any of the brands there but if you had too choose a mattress there can you make a recommendation. I just cant accept eating 1300 dollars right now it truly is sickening. [/quote]

I’m happy to help with “how” to choose but there are too many unknowns and variables involved to make specific recommendations for someone else (see mattress firmness/comfort levels in post #2 here). This is compounded by the fact that the specifics of the quality and thickness of all the materials in the mattress aren’t available.

If I was in your shoes and needed to make the best of a difficult situation and had to exchange a mattress where there were no particularly good options available to me … I would use one of the two strategies that are outlined in post #2 here.

Since the first strategy wouldn’t be possible because all the mattresses in your budget range that would likely be a suitable match for you in terms of PPP without a topper would also have too much lower quality materials in the comfort layers and would have a significant weak link in their design … I would suggest the second strategy which is to exchange for a mattress that uses the least possible amount of lower quality or unknown materials which would be in a firmer range than you were comfortable with and then add the additional comfort and pressure relief you would need in the form of a topper. Once you have decided on a mattress for an exchange … I would first sleep on your mattress for a few days (as uncomfortable as that may be) so you can use your own sleeping experience along with the suggestions in the topper guidelines to help you decide on the type, thickness, and firmness for a topper that would have the best chance of success.

A foam topper (either memory foam, latex foam, or polyfoam) would provide better overall pressure relief and secondary support than a featherbed or a fiber bed. There is more about primary and secondary support and their relationship to pressure relief and firmness in post #4 here and in post #2 here.

I would tend to choose between memory foam and latex depending on which one you tend to prefer. There is more about how they compare in post #2 here but the best way to know for certain which one you tend to prefer would be based on your own personal testing on different types and firmness levels of each one. I personally prefer the more resilient feel of latex but other people may have very different preferences than I do and may not like the feel of latex at all. If budget is your biggest concern then I would also consider a good quality polyfoam topper (the material that you will find in most sofas) which will also be more resilient and “lively” than memory foam.

In looking at the Raymour & Flanigan site … and assuming that you are looking at a king size … there are only 5 “firm” mattresses between $1000 and $1500.

Beautyrest® Recharge™ Kimble Glen Firm King Mattress Listed at $999

The layers that they list outside of the fire retardant barrier (which may not be complete) include …

2 x 1" AirCool® foam quilt layers
0.5" GelTouch™ foam
0.5" AirCool® memory foam
1" firm energy foam upholstery layers

Assuming that there aren’t any missing layers that aren’t included in the description … this is a total of at least 4.0" of unknown density/quality material.

Posturepedic® Foster Lane Firm King Mattress listed at $1149

The layers that they list outside of the fire retardant barrier (which may not be complete) include …

2" Aloft™ quilt layers
0.5" gel memory foam
4" ActiveFlex™ foam
0.5" CoreSupport™ center

Again … assuming that there aren’t any missing layers … this is a total of 6.5" of unknown density/quality materials

Beautyrest® Recharge™ World Class® Royal Palms Firm King Mattress Listed at $1379

The layers that they list outside of the fire retardant barrier (which may not be complete) include …

1.25" AirFeel foam
1" AirCool® foam quilt layers
0.5" TruTemp™ Gel foam
2" energy foam

Again … assuming that there aren’t any missing layers … this is a total of 4.75" of unknown density/quality materials.

Serta iSeries® Aficionado Firm King Mattress Listed at $1499

The layers that they list outside of the fire retardant barrier (which may not be complete) include …

.75" Cool Action™ Dual Effects gel memory foam
1" Serta® Support Foam

Once again … assuming that there aren’t any missing layers … this is a total of 1.75" of unknown density/quality materials.

Posturepedic® Hybrid Trust Cushion Firm King Mattress Listed at $1499

The layers that they list outside of the fire retardant barrier (which may not be complete) include …

1" OptiCool™ gel memory foam
2" ActiveFlex™ foam

Once again assuming that there aren’t any missing layers … this is a total of 3" of unknown density/quality materials.

Based on these specs … and assuming once again that there are no layers that are missing in the descriptions … then it would seem that the Serta was the closest to meeting the criteria of having the “least possible” amount of lower quality or unknown materials.

Phoenix