How to look for and find the best mattress ... for YOU! ***READ FIRST***

Hi Phoenix,

Thanks for the detailed feedback!
I am really leaning towards the Flobeds as I really like the
idea of the vZone layer that they offer. We were originally
looking to buy a Memory Foam Mattress, but since
(and thankfully we found this site!) we realized how
toxic they actually were, that became out of the question.

I think the vZone layer will closely mimic the pressure relief
that memory foam offers, so it will be a great option.
Can I say that I am really excited about getting a new
mattress?!
Because I am! :woohoo:

We are currently in the process of building a new House,
so we have a few more months before we get our new mattress,
but when we do - I will definitely update everyone with the
final choice!

Thanks again for creating and updating this AWESOME site -
I will make sure to let all my friends and family know about
it. It is scary how little one know about ā€œthe thingā€ the spend
a third of their life on!

You Rock! B)
Bessi

Hi Bessi,

Thanks for the kind words ā€¦ and Iā€™m glad the site could help you :slight_smile:

Iā€™m looking forward to finding out what you end up deciding when the time comes to pull the trigger.

Phoenix

I am a new member and am going to check out Beloit Mattress Company due to their listing on this site. I appreciate all the great information you have provided.

Hi xerry,

Welcome ā€¦ and Iā€™m glad you found us as well :slight_smile:

You are also looking in a great direction and you will find your experience at Beloit much more enjoyable and educational than at most mainstream mattress stores.

Iā€™m looking forward to finding out what you end up deciding.

Phoenix

THANKS VERY MUCH FOR ALL YOUR HELP!!! ON MY WAY TO FINDING THE BEST MATTRESS IN THE GTA!

Hi MrTibi,

Welcome ā€¦ and Iā€™m glad you found us :slight_smile:

Youā€™ve probably seen this but just in case you havenā€™t ā€¦ the better options and possibilities Iā€™m aware of in the GTA area (subject to the guidelines here) are listed in post #1 here.

Iā€™m looking forward to finding out what you end up deciding ā€¦ and of course any comments or questions that you may have along the way.

Phoenix

I am planning to buy a Synthetic Latex Mattress(King size, Firm) from below site
http://www.brooklynbedding.com/latex-mattresses/9-inch-tri-comfort

Can you please provide your valuable opinion and also advise if there any better options available in Erie, PA 16506 area.

Thank you!

Hi KittyKat,

As you probably know from your reading here ā€¦ Brooklyn Bedding is a member of this site which means that I think very highly of them and that I believe they compete well with the best in the industry in terms of their quality, value, service, and transparency.

Post #13 here has more information about what I would consider to be the most important parts of the ā€œvalueā€ of a mattress purchase that can help you make more meaningful comparisons between mattresses in terms of suitability, durability, and all the other parts of your personal value equation that are important to you.

While only you can decide on which mattress is the most suitable choice for you in terms of PPP (Posture and alignment, Pressure relief, and Personal preferences) or which parts of your personal value equation are most important to you ā€¦ the tri-comfort certainly uses good quality materials and there are no weak links in the mattress in terms of durability. There is also more about the different types and blends of latex in post #6 here.

The better local options in the Erie, PA area Iā€™m aware of that may also be worth considering on a ā€œmattress by mattressā€ basis (and subject to the guidelines in the tutorial post) are listed in post #313 here.

Phoenix

Thanks for prompt and quick reply :slight_smile:
Please advise if I can try any Latex Mattress in stores near Erie,PA area. I am not sure if Latex mattresses are available in store here.

Sorry Phoenix I just noticed that you have already provided options available in Erie, PA area.

Thanks! a bunch.

WOW! There is a lot of stuff to read and digest! Of course, I found this site 18 months too late, after I had already purchased the ā€œlast mattress I will ever buy.ā€ I thought I had shopped around smartly, and ended up with a Serta foam/conventional mattress that was very expensive. I have been in several accidents, and have chronic back pain, and, since one of the accidents, have had shoulder pain, as well. The doctors tell me itā€™s arthritis. Anyway, what I have noted is that my shoulders seem to like a softer mattress, so that there isnā€™t so-much pressure, but my mid section needs firm support. (Iā€™m a side sleeper due to the back problem.) Is there such a mattress, with different firmness zones? I have been, and still am, on a mission to shore up the bed and mattress. Started with plywood on top of the metal frame. It sagged, so I bought a new foundation. (They used to call them box springs, but my Serta has box springs built-in. Itā€™s about 14" thick, which is twice the size of my old mattress.) Still sags. Today, I found out my frame lacks a middle rail, which I ordered. I have been considering bed boards, to put between the mattress and the foundation. (We used to use them back in the day.) But all the ones I find are not large enough to cover the entire foundation. You need 2 or 3 of them. Well, if they arenā€™t one piece, it seems to me they will still have a weak point at the place where they meet, which could cause them to sag. Maybe I need another piece of plywood, but I donā€™t have a truck to get it home. I have also discovered that most mattresses and box springs now-a-days are made to be flexible, so they can be used on adjustable bed frames, like the ones they used to use only in hospitals. I can certainly understand why people would want them for their homes. I suspect Iā€™ll probably end up with one some day, but they are expensive. As a result, mattresses tend to flex and give more then they used to. If I had known this when I bought the thing, I would have asked for one with a rigid wood frame around it, like mattresses used to have.

When shopping for the mattress, of course, I laid on nearly every item in the stores I visited. The one I bought seemed to me to be the most comfortable. It is plush with a euro top, whatever all that means. The problem is, there is a big difference between lying on a mattress for 10 minutes, and sleeping on one for 8 hours. But, for the first 6 weeks or so, I was so in love with this mattress. My pains were greatly reduced. I even stopped in the store to tell the salesperson what a great product it was. But then the sagging started, and now, I wake up with great pain, and itā€™s not just my lower back anymore, but, for the past couple of weeks, my left hip and down into the leg. And my next chiropractor visit isnā€™t until Nov. 11. So Iā€™ve been working out and trying to live up to my name by spending lots of time in the hot tub.

It is impossible for you to tell anyone what is right for that person, because there are simply too-many variables. I understand that. At one point 15 years ago, a chiropractor prescribed a Sleep-Number bed, and got the insurance company to pay for it. I thought that was the answer for awhile, but gradually, I found I was lowering the number over time, and then the bed started to sag in the middle, as my body pushed all the air to the outside. Select Comfortā€™s answer was to let out all the air, then fill it all the way up, and then lower it to my setting. That would work for a week or 2, but I got tired of that noise, so I sold the thing to someone else, and bought the current Serta.

It seems, no matter what I do, I canā€™t get away from sagging. Maybe you have some words of wisdom. And maybe I need a firm mattress, even though I find a soft one more comfortable. The doctors and chiropractors arenā€™t much help. They say ā€œBuy the one that you find to be the most comfortable for you.ā€ Well, thatā€™s what Iā€™ve been doing! DUH! I mean, does anyone really go into a store and say ā€œI want an uncomfortable mattress?ā€ Every time I laid on a Tempur, I found it to be too hard, but now Iā€™m wonering if that isnā€™t what I should have gotten. This journey is just too frustrating for this old man.

Hi Hottubjoe,

I switched your post to a new topic of itā€™s own because the topic you posted in is a more general topic.

Yes ā€¦ there are many zoned mattresses of all types (most commonly in latex and innersprings) that have different firmness levels under different parts of the body in either the comfort or support layers. There is more information about zoning in this article and in post #11 here and post #2 here but the best way to know whether any specific zoning configuration is suitable for you would be based on your own personal testing or experience.

The difference between a foundation and a box spring is that box springs have actual springs that flex and foundations have a more rigid non flexing support surface. Most mattresses sold today have a foundation that donā€™t have springs inside them. Any springs inside your mattress are part of the mattress itself and arenā€™t a foundation or a box spring.

There is more information in post #4 here that may be helpful if your mattress is either too soft or is sagging but ā€œfixingā€ a mattress that is sagging or a mattress that is was too soft in the first place is much more difficult than softening a mattress that is too firm because you may need to replace the top layers that are sagging rather than adding something over them or changing the support system underneath them. If your original support system already had little to no flex then itā€™s unlikely that changing the foundation or using plywood over a foundation that already has very little flex would make much difference and if the plywood didnā€™t work then other foundations with a solid non flexing surface such as a bunkie board/bed board would be unlikely to work either. There is also more information about the different types of support systems that are generally suitable for different types of mattresses in post #1 here and the two posts it links to in the second paragraph.

If your bedframe is a queen size or larger and lacks a center support rail then there are some suggestions in post #5 here that may be helpful as well.

This would depend on the type of mattress you are considering because there is a difference between a mattress that flexes under the person sleeping on it and a mattress that can bend under an adjustable bed. Most foam mattresses and many innerspring mattresses (pocket coils especially) are flexible enough to be used on an adjustable bed but there are also many innerspring mattresses that can be damaged if they are used on an adjustable bed and bend too much so it would depend on the specifics of the mattress you are looking at.

While itā€™s certainly true that testing a mattress for 10 minutes can be different from sleeping on it ā€¦ if you do some careful and objective testing for PPP (Posture and alignment, Pressure relief, and Personal preferences) using the testing guidelines in the tutorial post rather than just testing for a subjective sense of ā€œcomfortā€ or the ā€œshowroom feelā€ of a mattress then the odds are much higher that your testing will usually be an effective way to predict your sleeping experience (see post #4 here.

There is always a break in and adjustment period for any new mattress (see post #3 here) but it sounds like your mattress was already ā€œon the edgeā€ of being too soft for you and that the initial break in and adjustment period probably took you ā€œover the edgeā€ of the firmness range that was suitable for you (see post #2 here).

You can see my comments about airbeds in this article and I agree with you that for most people they wouldnā€™t be the ideal choice.

You may need both a firmer mattress in the support layers for better support/alignment and a little firmer or thinner comfort layers that are also more inside the range that is suitable for you. There is more about primary and secondary support and their relationship to pressure relief in Post #2 here and post #4 here that may be helpful in understanding what ā€œgood supportā€ really means. As I mentioned in the previous links ā€¦ testing for ā€œsubjective comfortā€ in the managed environment of most mainstream mattress showrooms can have lower odds of success than random chance alone but with more careful testing your odds of finding a mattress that is a much better match for you in terms of PPP is much higher.

I didnā€™t see any specific questions in your post so hopefully some of the information here has been helpful but if you do have any more specific questions that I can help with Iā€™d be happy to do so to the best of my ability.

Phoenix

:slight_smile:

Thanks for this great guide! Iā€™m trying to find a healthy and affordable twin for my toddler. Looking at spindle for a natural latex or cotton from maine bunk beds. There is so much info out there and many fakersā€¦ itā€™s very over whelming.

Hi SukiSimpson,

Welcome ā€¦ and Iā€™m glad you found us :slight_smile:

Post #2 here includes links to most of the better topics and forum posts about mattresses and children and include more information about many good options for children (including Spindle which would certainly make a good choice).

Phoenix

Hi, Phoenix,

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I come from China, and I have a site too that offer the best silk comforters or silk quilts online.

It just begin, there are a lot of work to do, but I hope people will like it.

By the way, I am not very good at English, especially at writing English, I am studying it hard. There must be many mistakes, help me please.

good day

Hi ramber,

Welcome to the Mattress Forum!.

I removed your link because the rules of the forum donā€™t allow any advertising or self promotional links to your own site.

Phoenix

Hi, Phoenix, it doesnā€™t matter, :wink:

First off, love the site. Very informative. I had been emailing Jeff Scheuer from the Beducation YouTube videos and he steered me to this site. Very honest and knowledgeable guy by the way. Buy anyhow, I live in the Louisville Ky area and was wondering if you know of any good retailers or manufacturers in my area. I know about Bowles and Bragada. Have never laid on either. I have looked at the main brands (sealy, serta, tempurpedic etc) and some other brands such as Ashley and Denver mattress (furniture row). Any help you can give would be great. Not real high on the all foam beds. have found they are usually too firm or too soft. Have found that i tend to lean towards the so-called hybrid mattresses. Have found them to be the most comfortable to myself as well as my wife. Also plan on purchasing an adjustable base. Any help there would also be appreciated. One more note, have you had any experience with the site mattressquote.com?

Hi WILDCATSWON1,

As you may know I think very highly of Mattress-to-go and Jeff and he is one of the most knowledgeable retailers in the industry (see the first part of post #4 here).

The better options or possibilities Iā€™m aware of in and around the Louisville area (subject to the ā€œvalueā€ guidelines here) are listed in post #3 here.

I donā€™t have any personal experience with them no but they appear to focused on finding ā€œbest priceā€ quotes for many of the major brands or mainstream mattresses which are carried in a large number of stores and which I would tend to avoid anyway (see the guidelines here). While this could work well for mainstream brands ā€¦ most of the better quality/value mattresses are only available locally or regionally and donā€™t have a large number of retailers that carry them that would be registered on the site. In the case of factory direct manufacturers they would only be available at a specific location or at company stores.

Phoenix