How to look for and find the best mattress ... for YOU! ***READ FIRST***

Hi mcvicker,

Thanks for taking the time to return and share your comments and feedback after a year … it always great to read some longer term feedback and I appreciate it :slight_smile:

I also appreciate your encouragement to others that are still going through what can sometimes be a difficult and frustrating process!

Phoenix

I saw this thread and had to pop in to take a look. I haven’t been to Mattress Mart, but I have been to OMF and I like their “Chipotle-style” approach to doing business–build up the pieces parts the way you like them. Their choices aren’t overwhelming and the division between products is clear, and their pricing seems fair.

I’m going to take a much closer look at their latex mattress, but I guess based on your narrative I’ll head to Mattress Mart as well. Thanks for the tips.

Phoenix, you said something very important:

OMF has their latex mattress on both a standard box spring as well as on an adjustable base, and you’re 100% correct–they feel different, even with a quick check in the store.

(Do you give actual degrees for the graduate education you provide here? :wink: )

If anything, this is what turns me off of places like Mattress Mart. I don’t want to go in facing a used car deal and a two hour dance. Show me an honest price, and let’s be done with it.

For the record, right now OMF has their latex mattress, twin XL, on an S-Cape base (with wireless and massage!), for $2000. So a king is $4000. All with no wheeling and dealing and fake prices brought down by “removing the two $129 pillows” (I swear, the Mattress Firm guy at the home and garden show was so slimy I had to take a shower when I left him).

Hi adam1991,

I couldn’t agree with you more and I would love to see an industry where “negotiation” didn’t play a role in how much you pay (or in most cases how much you overpay) for a mattress. While there are still many smaller local or regional manufacturers across the country that don’t play these games and have good value at their regular prices every day of the year and if they do have a sale it is with a more reasonable discount and for legitimate reasons (and OMF is one of these) … it would really be a breath fresh air if the whole industry worked that way. One of the tipoffs for a store that uses these types of tactics is a retailer or even a factory direct manufacturer that carries many mainstream mattresses on their floor (Sealy, Simmons, Serta et al).

Thanks for taking the time to share your comments as well.

Maybe I should make a certificate that can be downloaded at the end of the tutorial that the members here can take into a “suspect” store that says “don’t mess with me … I am a graduate of The Mattress Underground and I may know more about mattresses than you do” :slight_smile:

Phoenix

Hello,

I have read your posts and I was hoping you could help me. I am having a lot of trouble deciding what mattress is good for me. I had been sleeping on a medium firm IKEA mattress for a few years and was having discomfort in my hip area which was causing me to wake up early so i decided to purchase a new mattress. Recently I purchased a Simmons Beautyrest Worldclass Imperial Estate mattress from sleep country. This was a really soft mattress. However, I started having neck pain and would wake up early in the morning. I found this mattress felt better for my hip though than the firmer IKEA mattress I had. I was still waking up early in the morning because the mattress would get too hot at night because of me sinking in the softness. So I exchanged my mattress and got Sealy Optimum Radiance Gold mattress and have been sleeping on it for about a month. This is a demo model. In the beginning I was able to sleep well for about a week. However for the past few weeks I have been waking up at 5 or 6am with pain in the middle of my back or lower back i’m not sure. I try sleeping in different position and putting pillows in between my knees but it doesnt help. Do you think this could be caused by the mattress? The pain goes away slowly after i get up and walk around for a while. I called sleep country and they are going to let me exchange my mattress but I just don’t know what to get any more. Do you think a soft mattress would be better or a firm one? From my observation a soft mattress would feel better for my hip. The store salesperson said if i want a soft mattress the only options they have are the Sealy Optimum Elation Gold, iComfort Epic and Kingsdown Kennedy. Please help me. I really need help deciding what mattress to purchase. Thank you.

Hi girl_toronto,

I switched your post to your own topic so it wouldn’t get mixed in with a more general topic.

It’s certainly possible that your mattress is too soft which would be a common cause of lower back pain that goes away after you get up but of course I can’t know for certain.

Only you can feel what you feel on a mattress and there are too many unknowns, variables, and personal preferences involved for anyone to be able to suggest a specific mattress based on specs (either yours or a mattress), health conditions, individual circumstances, or “theory at a distance” (see mattress firmness/comfort levels in post #2 here). Your best chance of success in choosing the most suitable mattress will be to use the testing guidelines in step 4 of the mattress shopping tutorial.

Unfortunately, and like many of the members here that have been in a similar situation, you are in a somewhat difficult position where you need to exchange a mattress at a store that I would normally suggest avoiding and where there may not be any particularly good quality/value options available to you.

There are some suggestions and ideas in post #2 here about the two main strategies that you can use that can help you make the best of a difficult situation. There is also more in post #13 here about the most important parts of the “value” of a mattress purchase or exchange that may be helpful as well.

Phoenix

Hello Phoenix and thanks for the reply.

I wrote a long reply to this thread once, and it disappeared. I don’t know what happened to it.

I will try to sum up what I had written

I am a male, approximately 6’ tall, 200 lbs. My zip is 89081, and I know there are a few mattress retailers around me, but I haven’t been to any as of yet. Looking to get a California king sized bed.

I did some research about 4 months ago, and did read through the mattress buying guide fully. When I created this thread, I was going almost off memory, other than the skim that I did of that thread before hand. I plan on fully revisiting that thread, and your reply in this one when I have some time this weekend.

I thought I had remembered Brooklyn Bedding as being one of your recommended retailers from last time I was doing research. I notice that they have a few different options for cooling, and I was wondering if you had a personal thought on one vs the other (cool vs. pure cool.) The almost $600 price difference (in Cali King) from one to the other is pretty hefty, but if you have confidence that it is truly functional, I would not hesitate to buy the more expensive one.

I did get a chance to read your post about comparing the different techniques of cool gel vs. other cooling (and also the different mixtures and types of gels, etc.) I guess the most I am worried about is just getting it narrowed down to a few good ones so I can make a relatively informed decision, but hopefully that will happen this weekend when I go shopping.

Thanks again for your help. I am sure I will have more questions and thoughts, but I will try to refrain from asking too many stupid questions before I do some more reading and research this weekend.

Thanks!

Taco Shop

Hi Taco Shop,

I feel your pain and I can’t count the number of times that this has happened to me over the years on many different forums. The problem is that the ones that “disappear” are always the best ones that took the longest to write. It’s usually the result of some kind of temporary disconnect from the internet leading to a session timeout which logs you out of the forum (this is common to forum software after a certain period of inactivity) and then when you go to post … poof. I’ve learned over the years to highlight and copy the post before clicking submit just in case but it always seems that the few times I forget is exactly when murphys law kicks in and another long post disappears into the ether. :dry:

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You’re correct that Brooklyn Bedding is one of the members here which means that I think very highly of them and I believe they compete well with the best in the industry in terms of their quality, value, service, and transparency.

While I may not always be the best source of information about some of the mattresses that are mentioned on the site (in most cases a knowledgeable manufacturer or retailer will know more about their own mattresses than I do) … I’m always happy to answer any questions that I can and IMO the only “stupid” questions are the ones that aren’t asked :slight_smile:

Phoenix

I believe what happened is I actually wrote the reply the night before and forgot to submit it. I submitted it the next day, but I think by that time it had already auto-logged me out. I should have copied it just in case, but the thought didn’t even cross my mind.

Hearing that the pure cool memory foam uses more technology than just the cooling gel makes me excited about it all over again. The cooling gel was the first “cool” technology that I had heard of for memory foam, and the only one I knew about until recently. Hearing about all the new ones made me stress all over again, as it was “one more thing” I had to realize now.

I am hoping this weekend I have time to go fall asleep on a couple of mattresses. Based on what you are saying, I feel pretty confident on Brooklyn Bedding, and also on which one I want. I almost want to order it now, but I know I DEFINITELY need to go lay on some beds to make sure It is good for my P-P-P. The other thing that is nice is that I know most every place will have tempurpedic beds in stock, and BB actually has good “comparison” models, so I can at least get an idea of what I will be getting. Although, for what its worth, I may try and shop around a little as the pure cool is definitely a little above and beyond my budget, but in the end I have a feeling that it will still be worth it.

Thanks again for all of your help! I really appreciate it.

Taco Shop

Hi Taco Shop,

I’m looking forward to finding out what you end up deciding but you are certainly looking at some good quality/value choices :slight_smile:

Phoenix

I just wanted to thank you for the massive amounts of information. I’ve been reading through your mattress forums and dream shopping for a mattress. I’m a new mom, and my husband and I have slept on a coil spring queen mattress that I believe my grandmother owned previously (and she’s been gone for 17 years). With the new baby, we need more room. But quite frankly, I need a good night’s sleep. My husband disagreed with the “ain’t broke, don’t fix it” attitude.
Over the last month, I’ve managed to convince him that it’s time. However, he gave me a ridiculously low budget thinking I wouldn’t be successful. Little did he know, I was prepared and informed.
With the help of your blog and forum, I am about to purchase from Dream Foam. I’ve developed a retail crush on this company after reading all the reviews (literally, like every review) and threads. For now, I’ve decided on the 11" pillow top with big dreams of a upgrading in a few years. I’m so very excited! Without your site, we would have gone to a super center for a smelly Japanese boxed mattress.

Many, many thanks!!

Hi daboards,

Thanks for the kind words!

You certainly did some extensive research and in spite of having a budget range where you would normally only find mattresses that were suitable for children or a guest bedroom or for temporary use … you ended up making a much higher quality choice than your restricted budget would normally make possible.

Congratulations on your new mattress :slight_smile:

I’m looking forward to your comments and feedback when you’ve received it and have had the chance to sleep on it.

Phoenix

Hey Phoenix,

Even though I wasn’t actually planning on it, I ended up purchasing a mattress today.

I ended up finding a MattressFIRM that was having a grand opening, and figured I may be able to catch a good deal, so I decided to go in.

Overall I had a great experience. The store was so new that they didn’t even have prices posted, and the area manager was there, so I was able to haggle with them.

Overall I took the time to lay on about 6 different beds. Some I didn’t spend more than 1-2 minutes because I knew immediately that it wasn’t for me.

The very first bed I laid on was a tempur-pedic. I don’t remember the model, but it was recommended by the salesman based off of the information I told him. WOW. If money was no option, I would have bought that bed and been done after about 10 minutes. It was extremely comfortable, and even without a pillow, I felt like I could fall asleep… And initially my plan was just to lay on it to compare it to a similar Brooklyn Bedding mattress.

I didn’t bother even asking what the price was as I knew that it was out of my league. One option they did offer, though, was they said they may possibly have returns in the warehouse that they sell for 50-60% off the price, and still comes with their 100 day money back guarantee, and still carries the full tempur-pedic warranty, but unfortunately they didn’t have any of those in California King at this time, and the price would have only been a few hundred $$ more than what I ended up spending, from what it sounded like.

After that, I decided to go try the Sealy and Serta mattresses as I knew they would be at least a little cheaper.

I know the gospel is to stay away from the major name brands, as you are paying mostly for the name, but I wanted to have at least a little comparison so I knew what I would be buying online.

Both of the Sealy’s were uncomfortable to me. One was close, but the other was entirely too firm for me. The first I spent about 5 minutes on, the latter about 5 seconds.

From there I decided to try the Serta. I laid on one and it felt too plush. It was soft and comfortable, but I sank in so much I felt like I was being engulfed. The lighter parts of my body floated, and my heavier parts sank, and although I felt supported, it preceptively felt uneven.

The last one I tried was the Serta Icomfort Brilliant EFX, which from what the salesman told me, you can only get from Mattress Firm. (Something about they are a premium retailer due to how many they sell, so Serta made a special edition line just for them.)

The thing I really liked about this mattress is that it was thicker, so there was an extra amount of cooling technology foam, and sleeping hot was my biggest concern.

I have to say that I was extremely impressed with the feel of the mattress. Even though I was wearing jeans, and the store definitely wasn’t very cool, I still felt comfortable temperature wise. The mattress didn’t feel hot, and I didn’t feel like I sunk in more after I laid on it. If the first Tempur-pedic I laid on was a baseline of 10, this was a 9.8. As soon as I laid on it, whether on my back or my side, I felt extremely comfortable, and my bulging disc in my lower back, which hurts almost 24/7, stopped hurting almost immediately.

Considering I was already there, I decided to find out how much it would be for the mattress. I hadn’t priced any of these before since I just wrote them off as too expensive right off the bat. After discussing some with them, and asking a few questions, I decided to give it a really good go.

I laid on it for about 20 minutes and they were even kind enough to let me use some of their pillows, which was smart on their part (I ended up purchasing both of the pillows they offered). The first pillow I used was a Fabritech shredded memory foam stuffed pillow. They had them on sale, 2 queen size pillows for $40 (usually $79.99), and I thought that was a good deal considering they were shredded memory foam, and they have a zipper so you can adjust them. I personally wasn’t a huge fan of just one. I would probably have to sacrifice some foam from 1 and use it in the other to make it thick enough for me. The girlfriend, on the other hand, fell in love with the pillows. She is the kind of person who never uses pillows because none are comfortable enough for her, and she wanted them straight away.

After trying those, the salesman handed me a comfort revolution “blue foam” pillow, and left me be to lay there. WOW, what an amazing pillow. It felt super supple, and judging by how much it deformed when the salesman was carrying it, I immediately wrote it off as being too soft and not supportive enough, but I decided to try it anyways. Holy cow, what an amazing pillow. It is super supple, but somehow stopped compressing RIGHT where my head needed to be, and was just amazing. It has 2 thicknesses depending on which side you use. I wanted to take it home right there, but that was the only one they had :frowning: . Another thing to note about this pillow that was AMAZING is that it felt cool. It always felt cool. Even after laying on the pillow for 15 minutes, it still felt comfortably cool to the touch. My face wasn’t damp from sweat, and it wasn’t uncomfortably hot or itchy. It was like always having the “cool side of the pillow” sensation. Would highly recommend to anyone.

After laying on the bed for about 15 minutes and talking to my gf and almost falling asleep, I decided that if they could get the price a little lower to where I wanted to be, and answer a few more questions, I would buy it.

I began to ask about foam densities, and the layers, and they were helpful. Unfortunately, since they were a brand new store, they were on an air card for internet, and it was barely working. As far as the densities are concerned, the manager didn’t have a direct answer for me, so he actually CALLED THE SERTA REP! ON A SUNDAY! :ohmy: Absolutely blew my mind, and although I didn’t get an as direct answer as I wanted, what he had to say made sense. He said the comfort layers, and the top layer are a calculated 4.5lb, but its not as simple as that anymore due to the way the gel is infused into the foam, which I believe I remember reading something about that on here. He also said that none of the layers are less than a 3.5lb density, and that is only in the lower core layer (considering Brooklyn Bedding’s is 2.17lb, I figured that was more than acceptable.)

I don’t know how much of it is 100% true, but honestly it was satisfying enough for me, and I didn’t feel like the manager was trying to pull one over on me. Also, I really liked the combination of layers that this bed has, and as far as I can tell, each layer has different/multiple cooling technologies, which was a big seller for me. The other thing that is nice is Serta’s website covers what each layer has in it.

Long story short, I had an absolutely great experience. All of the mattresses were brand new, so I got to get the full feel of a new mattress. Also, I was there about an hour and a half, and not one other person came in, so I was able to make my decision in a quiet environment, and the salesman and manager was only there when I needed them. There was zero pressure.

Now the question I know everyone is going to ask is how much I ended up paying for the mattress. I am not one to kiss and tell, because I know that they gave me an absolutely killer deal due to them just starting (today was the second day they were open.) To put it simply, I got the mattress, foundation (split in 2 sections like a normal king, from what I understand), a Premium waterproof mattress cover (Normally $149 by itself :ohmy: ), the 2 shredded memory foam pillows, the cool blue memory foam pillow, and the delivery and setup for SIGNIFICANTLY less than the price of just the mattress and foundation on their website. All that coupled with the fact that I get to try it for up to 100 days and can still return it, or trade up/down (and get ALL of my money back for EVERYTHING minus he $75 pick up fee), and getting to lay on it and know what I am getting before I buy it, was worth the small amount more that I paid over Brooklyn Bedding’s website.

I plan on reporting back within the next 30-90 days to let everyone know how it turns out, but I am confident that I will be extremely happy with my purchase.

Also, anyone else reading this, if you have any questions, please feel free to post or pm me.

Taco Shop

The other thing that I forgot to add in the post above that I really thought was cool, is that Serta is running a special (I don’t know for how long, when it started, or when it will stop), but when you purchase a Serta mattress and then register your purchase on their website, they will give you a $100 credit a year for purchase of a new Serta mattress, up to 10 years. Essentially what this means for me is if I purchase a new Serta mattress 10 years from now, I will get a $1,000 credit towards the mattress, which is HUGE.What’s cool too, is that even if you keep it less, you still get the $100 a year credit (ie. 7 years is good for $700).

Taco Shop

Hi Taco Shop,

Wow … I don’t know where to start :dry: .

Unfortunately you believed and “bought into” almost every one of the “marketing stories” you were told that I warn about on the site and broke almost every one of the steps and guidelines that lead to buying a better quality/value mattress … and unfortunately you ended up making a choice that isn’t close to being the quality/value that you believe it is.

[quote]I began to ask about foam densities, and the layers, and they were helpful. Unfortunately, since they were a brand new store, they were on an air card for internet, and it was barely working. As far as the densities are concerned, the manager didn’t have a direct answer for me, so he actually CALLED THE SERTA REP! ON A SUNDAY! :ohmy: Absolutely blew my mind, and although I didn’t get an as direct answer as I wanted, what he had to say made sense. He said the comfort layers, and the top layer are a calculated 4.5lb, but its not as simple as that anymore due to the way the gel is infused into the foam, which I believe I remember reading something about that on here. He also said that none of the layers are less than a 3.5lb density, and that is only in the lower core layer (considering Brooklyn Bedding’s is 2.17lb, I figured that was more than acceptable.)

I don’t know how much of it is 100% true, but honestly it was satisfying enough for me, and I didn’t feel like the manager was trying to pull one over on me. Also, I really liked the combination of layers that this bed has, and as far as I can tell, each layer has different/multiple cooling technologies, which was a big seller for me. The other thing that is nice is Serta’s website covers what each layer has in it.[/quote]

Serta’s website doesn’t provide any meaningful information about the materials in your mattress and the foam specs you were given were incomplete and are missing the lower quality materials such as the 1.2 lb pillowsoft foam which is a very low quality material that could be a weak link in your mattress (depending on the thickness)

The other memory foam layers are “in the range” of 4 lb density which is a medium quality/density memory foam that is the lower end of the minimum memory foam density that I would suggest considering although I believe that one of your layers may be 3.6 lb density which is lower quality than I would normally consider in a mattress in this price range.

The polyfoam support core is 1.5 lb density which is also a lower quality/density polyfoam than I would generally consider in a mattress in this budget range although it probably won’t be a weak link in the mattress unless you are in a higher than average weight range.

You are also comparing memory foam density to polyfoam density which is an apples to oranges comparison that is meaningless. 2.17 lb polyfoam in a support core is a high quality and durable material and your mattress uses 1.5 lb polyfoam in the support core which is a much lower quality and less durable material. If a memory foam layer was the same 2.17 lb density then it would be a very low quality material (the density range for memory foam is much higher than polyfoam).

Dreamfoam (Brooklyn Bedding’s sister company) sells the Ultimate Dreams 13-Inch Gel Memory Foam Mattress which uses higher quality/density memory foam layers than your mattress and the same 1.5 lb polyfoam base layer and doesn’t have any lower quality materials or weak links in the mattress and it sells for $899 (less a 10% discount for a total of $809.10) in cal king which is only 1/3 of Mattress Firm’s listed price of $2399 for the same size.

A google search on Icomfort Brilliant EFX will also bring up some of the many other retailers that sell the same mattress.

The $100 per year credit is only good towards buying another low quality/value mattress from Serta and it’s very unlikely that you will sleep well on your mattress for 10 years (or even half of that) before foam softening and breakdown leads to the loss of comfort and support that is the reason you purchased it and you will need to buy a new mattress so it’s unlikely that you will build up to the maximum credit given the quality of the materials that it uses.

The only good option that came with the mattress is that you would have the chance to return it for a nominal fee.

I really don’t like making these types of comments but you at least deserve to know the truth about your purchase so you can make an informed choice about whether to keep it.

Phoenix

Great page! We share almost the same opinion on the Best Mattress for Side sleepers

Hello,

I have been researching mattresses for a while now, including all of the wonderful information on this site.
I am very conflicted with so many options especially after reading the shopping tutorial. Recently while at the chiropractor for pain associated with my Lupus, he was asking about my diet and surroundings. One of his questions was how toxic my bedroom was. When I told him that I have a tempur pedic mattress he said to look up tempur pedic and autoimmune disease. It is too bad because it is so comfortable!! It is pretty scary and I am ready to get a new mattress ASAP!!! Unfortunately, I have a severe latex allergy (epi- pen and all) as well as pretty bad allergies. It looks like my choices of beds with low toxicity are cotton/wool that may aggravate my allergies and don’t last long, or latex, which despite being washed etc. still makes me nervous. I was looking into the intellibed until I found your post on that. Do you have any specific suggestions?

Hi pbos,

I split your topic into a topic of its own so your questions don’t get mixed in with a more general topic.

Unfortunately there are too many unknowns, variables, and personal preferences involved for anyone to be able to make specific recommendations or suggest a specific mattress or type of materials that you may do well with based on specs (either yours or a mattress), health conditions, individual circumstances, or “theory at a distance” (see mattress firmness/comfort levels in post #2 here). Having said that I can certainly make some suggestions about “how” to choose that may be helpful.

Post #2 here and the more detailed posts and information it links to have more information about safe, natural, organic, “chemical free”, and “green” mattresses and mattress materials that can help you sort through some of the marketing information and terminology that you will encounter in the industry and can help you differentiate between them and answer “how safe is safe enough for me” so you can decide on the types of materials you are most comfortable with having in your mattress. These types of issues are complex and are generally specific to each person and their individual sensitivities, circumstances, criteria, and lifestyle choices. Latex can certainly be a good choice for people that are very sensitive.

Once you have decided on which materials you are comfortable with having in your mattress then choosing a mattress that only contains that type of materials will be much easier.

Anecdotally there are more people that have issues with Tempurpedic than many other types of memory foam and their memory foam isn’t CertiPUR certified but of course they are also sell more memory foam mattresses than anyone else so this may also be part of what accounts for the number of reports of people that are sensitive to them.

There are also more people that are sensitive to memory foam than polyfoam so if you have slept on mattresses that contains polyfoam previously without any sensitivity issues then this may be worth considering as well and this would open up many more choices for you than only considering mattresses that use an innerspring and natural fibers.

The Intelligel (or other buckling column gel materials) would also be a “safe” material for most people but of course their mattresses also contain polyfoam as well and the buckling column gel is only one of the layers in their mattress.

Phoenix

Hi, Phoenix. Thank for your informations.

Hi Intan,

You’re welcome.

Phoenix

PS: I’ve removed the link to your site in your profile (along with the same link in angela8915’s profile) twice now because it is against the rules of the forum. Please don’t add it back again.