How to look for and find the best mattress ... for YOU! ***READ FIRST***

Phoenix

I so appreciate you having this forum to gather information on mattresses! I have a problemā€¦There is way too much informationā€¦ Im an intelligent guy but damnā€¦ hahaha I have tried to locate a sleep shop in my area (sarasota florida) that can assist me in finding something that works. All the sleep shops that seem to be in my area all carry the big name brands only that you mention to try to stay away from. I did some research (before reading your forum) and landed on a purple mattressā€¦ Read a ton of reviews and seemed like it would be a great fit for me as Iā€™m a side sleeper at 230#s. Well Iā€™ve been sleeping on it for about 3 weeks and its no better then my 15 year old mattress. I wake up with horrible back pain. Can you please point me in a direction? I have read many of your articles but they never seem to give me a clear direction to go in.

Thanks in advance !

Hi Fountain333,

Welcome to the Mattress Forum! :slight_smile:

Youā€™re very welcome. Itā€™s a labour of love.

Subject to first confirming that any retailer or manufacturer on the list that you wish to visit is completely transparent ( see this article ) and to making sure that any mattress you are considering meets the quality/value guidelines here ā€¦ the better options or possibilities Iā€™m aware of in and around the Sarasota /Brandenton area is here .

While I can certainly help with ā€œhowā€ to choose a mattress, itā€™s not possible to make specific suggestions or recommendations for either a mattress, manufacturers/retailers, or combinations of materials or components, because the first ā€œruleā€ of mattress shopping is to always remember that you are the only one that can feel what you feel on a mattress and there are too many unknowns, variables, and personal preferences for anyone to be able to predict or make a specific suggestion or recommendation that can possibly be more reliable than your own careful testing (hopefully using the testing guidelines in step 4 of the tutorial) or your own personal sleeping experience (see mattress firmness/comfort levels in post #2 here).

The one article I would have you rad would be the mattress shopping tutorial here. Drilling down to it in its simplest form ā€¦ choosing the ā€œbest possibleā€ mattress for any particular person really comes down to FIRST finding a few knowledgeable and transparent retailers and/or manufacturers (either locally or online) that sell the types of mattresses that you are most interested in that are in a budget range you are comfortable with and that you have confirmed will provide you with the all the information you need about the materials and components inside the mattresses they sell so you will be able to make informed choices and meaningful comparisons between mattresses and then ā€¦

  1. Careful testing (hopefully using the testing guidelines in the tutorial) to make sure that a mattress is a good match for you in terms of ā€œcomfortā€, firmness, and PPP (Posture and alignment, Pressure relief, and your own Personal preferences) ā€¦ and/or that you are comfortable with the options you have available to return, exchange, or ā€œfine tuneā€ the mattress and any costs involved if you canā€™t test a mattress in person or arenā€™t confident that your mattress is a suitable choice.

  2. Checking to make sure that there are no lower quality materials or weak links in a mattress you are considering relative to your weight/BMI range that could compromise the durability and useful life of the mattress (see the durability guidelines here).

  3. Comparing your finalists for ā€œvalueā€ based on #1 and #2 and all the other parts of your personal value equation that are most important to you.

Iā€™m sorry that your Purple mattress isnā€™t working out well for you, but at least you had the foresight to choose something with a good return policy. Using reviews is one of the least reliable ways to predict whether a mattress will be appropriate for your own personal use. While other peopleā€™s comments about the knowledge and service of a particular business can certainly be very helpful, I would always keep in mind that you are the only one that can feel what you feel on a mattress and I would be cautious about using anyone elseā€™s suggestions, experiences or reviews on a specific mattress (either positive or negative) or review sites in general as a reliable source of information or guidance about how you will feel on the same mattress or how suitable or how durable a mattress may be for you. In many if not most cases they can be more misleading than helpful because a mattress that would be a perfect choice for one person or even a larger group of people in terms of comfort, firmness, and PPP may be completely unsuitable for someone else to sleep on (even if they are in a similar weight range). In other words ā€¦ reviews or other peopleā€™s experiences in general wonā€™t tell you much if anything about the suitability, quality, durability, or ā€œvalueā€ of a mattress for any particular person (see post #13 here).

I hope that information helps to simplify things for you and also helps point you in the direction of some reliable local retailers who can be assistive to you in your process. Iā€™ll be interested in learning about anything that end up purchasing, your experience, or any other questions you may have.

Phoenix

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Thank You.

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Hello,
What retailers would you recommend in the 40299 ZIP code? Thanks!

Hi nascarnole,

Just for clarity, I donā€™t make recommendations for stores unless they are a vetted member here of the site.

Aside from that, and subject to first confirming that any retailer or manufacturer on the list that you wish to visit is completely transparent (see this article) and to making sure that any mattress you are considering meets the quality/value guidelines here ā€¦ the better options or possibilities Iā€™m aware of in and around the Louisville, KY area are listed in post #3 here.

Phoenix

Thank you, I was trying to determine if any vetted retailers are in my area. I will review that list. Also, I know that forum members get discounts at your online vetted retailers. Where do I find the discount codes? I am ordering something from Sleep on Latex but couldnā€™t figure out what code to enter. Appreciate your help.

Hi nascarnole,

Iā€™m sorry. The site is in the middle of a redesign. The site membership listing is parked here for right now. Just contact Sleep on Latex when ordering and let them know you are a Mattress Underground member for your discount.

Phoenix

I am so grateful to have found this site. Am hoping it will prevent us from making yet another bad choice in what is such an important part of your life. We currently sleep on a Saatva. I wish their mattresses were as good as their marketing. Within 3 months of taking delivery, I was sleeping in a ravine, and have been there ever sinceā€¦too long. We recently stayed at a Hilton and slept wonderfully for several nights. I have been researching their mattresses and was prepared to make an on-line purchase (again), when I started reading the forums here and realized that the reason we enjoyed their mattress so much is probably because ours is just so bad at this point. So, in an effort to get it right this time, we are going to check out the Yankee Mattress Company, as we live in Western Mass., they are conveniently close, and they are a TMU member. Wish us luck.

Hi SEBALAZS,

Welcome to the Mattress Forum! :slight_smile:

Iā€™m sorry to hear that your Saatva mattress isnā€™t working out well for you. :frowning: Hopefully they were able to take care of things for you with a return/refund.

One thing you may wish to confirm is that you are using an appropriate foundation with a bed frame using a good center support (for full through king sizes) to make sure than those things are not contributing to you sinking in the middle of any mattress you may purchase.

You must have read about some of my general comments about hotel mattresses from post #2 here. Iā€™m glad you were able to read through that information.

Yes, Yankee Mattress Factory is a member of this site which means that I think very highly of them and that I believe that they compete well with the best in the industry in terms of their quality, value, service, knowledge, and transparency. If you do decide to make a purchase from them, be sure to ask for your TMU discount!

Good luck! Iā€™ll be interested in learning about your visit.

Phoenix

Thereā€™s so much information here! At first I was going to just purchase a mattress in a big box store, but after reading many posts, Iā€™m considering the DIY route. Thank you for the wealth of information!

Hi fnappy,

Welcome to the Mattress Forum! :slight_smile:

Iā€™m happy that the information presented here has been useful to you.

As youā€™re considering the DIY route for a mattress, and just in case you havenā€™t read it yet, I would start is by reading option 3 in post #15 here and the posts it links to (and option #1 and #2 as well) so that you have more realistic expectations and that you are comfortable with the learning curve, uncertainty, trial and error, or in some cases the higher costs that may be involved in the DIY process. While it can certainly be a rewarding project ā€¦ the best approach to a DIY mattress is a ā€œspirit of adventureā€ where what you learn and the satisfaction that comes from the process itself is more important than any cost savings you may realize (which may or may not happen).

If you have more specific questions as you go through the process, Iā€™ll do my best to be assistive.

Phoenix

Hello Pheonix,

My apologies for my awkward phrasing in my post about latex mattresses at Worley. We bought our current traditional mattress and boxspring from them several years ago and it is a great bed. We actually found Worleyā€™s from this site.

After lurking (again, but now as a member) on this wonderfully informative site for a few days I am ready to ask for some help. We are in need of a new bed for a number of reasons.

My husband, now 67 years old, has gained weight since then (now 217 lbs @ 5ā€™9" with much of it front end loaded), requires neck and back surgery, sleeps with a CPAP machine, and is up and down frequently during the the night. He is a side sleeper only.

I am 62, 5ā€™ and 122 lbs, arthritis in my neck and back, as well as shoulder pain from a torn rotator cuff.
I am primarily a side sleeper though do at times sleep on my back and stomach.

We have finally decided on a latex, or latex hybrid, as quality and motion isolation are very important to us. Memory foam is our because my husband finds it difficult to escape from. I like softness but love the feeling of floating on a cloud.

We tried Pure Talalay Bliss mattresses and loved the 10" one. With its loose cover and squared off edges, I did not get the feeling of rolling like I have had with a topper on our innerspring. I tend to be an edge sleeper. However we feel that the price of the PTB is much to steep. We would like to purchase something similar at a more reasonable cost with a good return policy.

I would appreciate any guidance you can provide. It is possible that the PTB we laid on is not the best for our needs given our sleeping positions and personal characteristics.

We look forward to hearing from you.

Hi ratchette,

The Pure Talalay Bliss mattress you tested uses three layers of blended Talalay latex. The 6" core is 36 ILD, and on top of that is a 2" layer of 28 ILD latex, and that it topped with a 2" layer of 21 ILD latex. These are the last specifications I have for this model, and you can use them as you search for similar items that are in a price range that better suits your preferences. PTB does have a suggested minimum advertised pricing guideline that their retailers are supposed to abide by, and many do choose to offer their products at those prices.

The good news is that there are many latex mattress manufacturers who are familiar with the Nature and can offer a product using the same or very similar materials, and many do so at prices that are more affordable than the PTB suggested retail prices.

While it is of course not a complete list of all of the latex manufacturers available, you may wish to peruse the members of this site. I think very highly of them and that I believe that they compete well with the best in the industry in terms of their quality, value, service, knowledge, and transparency. There are many that are extremely knowledgeable about latex and different configurations, and I would not hesitate to recommend them for your consideration.

Hopefully that will give you a good start. Youā€™ve already found something that works well for your preferences, and you know that it uses good quality and durable materials, so now it would come down to finding a manufacturer with whom you are comfortable conducting business.

Phoenix

Hi There, It depends upon your desires weather you want a simple mattress with foam or you want a spring mattress. If you have decided one then go and look for that one i canā€™t tell you the exact name of seller as i donā€™t know who sells the best and top quality. Just try google and find the best one in reasonable price. One more thing that i want to add is that Mattress Protectors also plays an important role in protecting your mattress for a long period of time. So i suggest you to buy that one too if you have decided to upgrade your bedding or mattress. Good Luck!

Thanks for a great site and a ton of useful information.

Sorry if this is the wrong place to post a question (I canā€™t seem to find a ā€œnew topicā€ tab in the main forum space) but I wanted to ask for a latex topper recommendation.

For a couple of years weā€™ve been sleeping on a 3" Rejuvenite Talalay latex topper (I think it was rated around 19 ILD). Itā€™s comfortable but I feel I sink into it a little too much ā€“ Iā€™m a back and stomach sleeper mostly ā€“ and think Iā€™d prefer something more solid or dense without being so hard itā€™s uncomfortable.

Any suggestions as to medium or firm? Iā€™ve also considered Dunlop as opposed to Talalay.

Thanks for your help!

Hey bedheaded,

Maybe these guidelines from Talalay Global for their Talalay latex with word softness associations will be helpful to you for ILDs:
14 - Super Plush
19 - Plush
24 - Soft
28 - Medium
32 - Firm
36 - Extra Firm / Base Core
40-44 - Extra Firm / Base Core

14 to 32 are usually used for comfort layers or toppers from them. If you want to sink in a bit less and sleep on your stomach a bit more frequently (but still some on your back), something around a 28 ILD might be a good start to test out. But your overall feel is also determined by the mattress beneath the topper.

I hope that helps.

Jeff Scheuer, The Beducator
Mattress To Go

Hi, according to me if I want to buy something i would first see the reviews of the product thats where i get to know how benificial it was for the users

Phoenix,
This is my first time on this site, which is the best Iā€™ve found for information, so please excuse me if Iā€™m in the wrong forum or ask too many odd or dumb questions.

We have a 12 year old king mattress and box springs combination that has begun to break down. Weā€™re interested in trying a latex mattress in split king on an adjustable base but canā€™t find a company here in Jacksonville, Florida that carries latex mattresses so we can try one. Weā€™ll be in the San Francisco area (more specifically, Novato/San Rafael). Is there a dealer there who carries latex? Long ago we lived in the Bay Area and Sleep Train carried latex but it has been bought out by another company that seems to have stopped carrying it.

With an adjustable base is a foundation necessary or possible under a latex mattress? Iā€™m asking because our mattress/box springs together sit pretty high and a mattress alone might be too thin to look right. A topper would add two or three inches but that still leaves several inches to make up.

Weā€™re in our 60s and have had knee and hip replacements but have no related pains in bed. Our traditional setup is, I believe, a medium firmness and that seems to work for us. Long ago we bought a traditional mattress from Sleep Train and in the process looked at latex. One thing I remember is that some of the latex mattresses had a firm vertical component on the sides to prevent sagging when sitting on the side. Is this still a consideration?

It looks like Vennhaven will be our choice (but weā€™re open to suggestions - our main considerations are cool sleeping and comfort and cost, of course), is there an adjustable base that works best for that brand? We donā€™t need all the bells and whistles such as under bed lighting and vibrating base. I think I understand that at least some adjustable units fit into/onto a regular bed frame so we can still use our headboard and footboard; is this is so? Iā€™m guessing that a base that fits in or on a traditional frame will add three or four inches of height - yes?

This is dumb, but my wife is concerned about being able to make up the split king mattresses. My supposition is that weā€™d just revise the head to improve accessibility and ease of fitting the sheets. Suggestions?

Thanks for bearing with me.

ā€” Bruce

Thanks so much for your help, Jeff!