I suppose what Iām the most adamant about is that there are safe, natural, fire barriers, no harmful, chemical adhesives, and that natural fabrics are used. I feel confident in this with Cozy Pure and My Green Mattress. Brentwood describes their Cedar mattress as completely natural and is quite transparent about the origins of the materials, BUT they have no certifications to back up the claims (no Greenguard, GOLS, or Oeko-Tex. The cotton is GOTS certified, though). If what they say on their site and directly to me is true, and I have no reason to believe itās not, then it should be natural and safe. The Brentwood fire barrier is a crushed silica suspended in a rayon fabric (I would prefer wool) which is considered to be safe and non-toxic.
I keep coming back to the Brentwood Oceano even though it is not a completely natural bed (still no chemical flame barriers) because I think it might offer the firmness my husband would like with enough of a soft comfort layer to help with my shoulder and arm pain. Their memory foam is Certi-pur certified, and Brentwood has given me the names of their foam suppliers, which I verified to have current certi-pur certifications as well. But, in the end itās still memory foam and not a natural material which I struggle with and is something I need to decide if Iām willing to give up.
Agreed! This is why I think Iāve backed myself into āanalysis paralysis.ā I canāt get what I want locally so I have to order online. With my husband preferring a firm mattress (for comparison he did the sleep match program with a Kingsdown and liked the āblue 400 seriesā which I found too firm - and no, Iām not buying the Kingsdown) and my tendency to have arm numbness as a side sleeper Iām just not sure where to land.
Hi, howās it going! This is my first post on TMU, thanks so much for making this place a thing!
Iām shopping around in Birmingham, Alabama for a mattress and Iām looking for a super firm King with a boxspring. I tried what the retailer called the Serta Perfect Sleep Kirkville Extra Firm. Itās very in line with what Iām looking for - very firm and, in my opinion, comfy. The salesperson told me it was the sort of mattress many of his Asian customers preferred (if thatās helpful??). I believe itās an innerspring w/ pocketed springs. At 1200 including the box spring and shipping, itās a good bit out of my range though, and Iām trying to find out if I can find something similar for around 700 - I can wince and bite the bullet at 800, but beyond that Iāll just have to start looking for something else. Iāve noticed people on here arenāt huge fans of big brand names in terms of value, and Iām completely open to hearing about alternatives. Do you know where I can find a mattress of this style without breaking the bank?
Making this trickier for me is the Name Game, which I just learned about recently. I canāt find any information on the mattress online, and am having a hard time comparing it to different beds. A few questions about the dreaded Name Game - do manufacturers ever shuffle beds between lines? For example, is it possible that there are mattresses in the Serta iComfort line and the Serta Perfect Sleeper line that are essentially the same product?ļ»æ Also, could they be labeling them as different firmnesses? Fx, labeling a mattress āFirmā at one retailer but āExtra Firmā at another?
I am desperate for a mattress. I want latex based on trying different options in a furniture store. I loved the feel of the Restonic Elevate Serenity, but itās quite a bit more than I want to pay. I live in a small town (31602) but can travel if you can recommend something within a two hour trip. I previously ordered an Amerisleep AS3, but after two weeks, my shoulder was killing me. I went back to our old spring mattress and put a 3 inch memory foam topper on it, but Iām not sleeping well and wake up sore in my shoulder and back. Iām primarily a side sleeper (5ā9" 125) and my husband is a back and side sleeper (6ā1" 165). I prefer plusher medium soft feel. Can you offer any advice? Under $2000
Manufacturers usually donāt duplicate models within different lines, as each line usually has something that differentiates itself from the other line. This could be something like the type of innerspring unit used or the type (and quality) of foams being used. When multiple names are use for the same mattress models, this is usually done for the same mattress within a geographic region to help āprotectā retailers from consumer comparisons, and is often accompanied with a change in the ticking (covering) of the mattress as well. This would be much more common.
Hi, I would love some advice on my next mattress purchase.
A few years ago, I came to this forum and learned about this DreamFoam mattress. It was exactly what I was looking for at the time: a well-reviewed mattress with a latex comfort layer for less than $800 (my max budget for that purchase), and I believe the forum admin here had mentioning having some respect for the company. I found that really reassuring; itās obvious that the admin here is extremely knowledgeable and careful about what he or she praises for fear of causing some kind of herdlike behavior where everyone buys such-and-such product because it received praise even though no one mattress is best for everyone.
I recently bought a home, and Iām going to move that medium firmness DreamFoam mattress over to the guest room, so now I need to buy a new mattress for my own bedroom. I had originally intended to just buy the same exact mattress because Iāve had an excellent experience with it, but a flood of recent negative Amazon reviews about the mattressās longevity has given me pause. Mine is still in good shape and will be perfect for the guest room, but I want to be sure that my next mattress lasts longer than the next five years.
This time around, my budget is higher. Hereās what Iāve been looking at:
At the end of my budget is the Zenhaven mattress by Saatva. I was encouraged by the description of it in this post where it sounds like the construction is very good. The fact that itās flippable and has different firmness levels is intriguing; I think I would enjoy both.
Iāve also been considering the Pure Green mattress by Sleep on Latex. I found it encouraging that theyāre listed as one of the quality manufacturers on this site,
Judging from the content Iāve found on the site, Iām guessing that the admin would say that both of these choices are well-constructed mattresses from reputable companies. So, what I need help with is comparing and contrasting them.
The Zenhaven is an inch taller, has the two-sided functionality and some type of comfort zoning, uses talalay latex, and has a longer/better warranty. The Pure Green uses dunlop latex and its price is significantly lower. Here are my questions:
1.) Are there any other differences between the two mattresses that Iām missing?
2.) I think I have a basic sense of the difference between the two kinds of latex, but descriptions of dunlop latex typically talk about how itās prone to problems if itās low-quality. Iām assuming that anything that makes this siteās quality manufacturers list would not have that problem. So, if both the dunlop and talalay latex used are high-quality, whatās the difference?
3.) How might each of these mattresses differ feel-wise from the DreamFoam mattress? Iām guessing that both of these options will be an upgrade in terms of construction/materials, but Iām curious about what going from the hybrid to an all-latex mattress will be like.
As it stands, Iām leaning toward the Pure Green mattress because the price is so much lower and the features Iām losing (height, better warranty, two-sided/zoning features) are worth some money to me but not $800. But maybe there are additional differences between the two that Iām missing that would close that value gap.
Some contextual information about me: Iām a man in my late 20s who is a little overweight but who otherwise doesnāt have any significant health problems. In terms of what I like, Iāve enjoyed having a latex hybrid mattress and I would say that my preference runs in the āmedium firmnessā range. Iāve slept on very firm mattress and very soft mattresses and I can manage with either, but I get my best rest on something that has a little give and feels soft texture-wise but that is supportive. I almost always fall asleep on my back, but Iāll rest/nap on my sides occasionally and I wake up on my stomach about a third of the time (no idea what thatās about).
You are correct, both of the mattresses you are considering are good quality/value choices but of course there are also differences between them that could make one more attractive than the other depending on all the parts of your personal value equation that are most important to you.
Zoning systems of various types can sometimes be useful and worth considering for people that have more difficulty finding a mattress with the right ābalanceā between comfort/pressure relief (under the shoulders especially) and support/alignment (under the hips/pelvis especially) or who have more challenging circumstances or sensitivities, body types that are more difficult to āmatchā to a mattress, more complex medical issues, or who have a history of having more difficulty in finding a mattress that works well for them. There is more about zoning in this article and in post #11 here and the additional posts it links to but once again the only way to know whether any specific mattress (zoned or otherwise) will be a good āmatchā for you in terms of PPP will be based on your own careful testing and/or your own personal experience.
The biggest difference is in the design/construction, with the Zenhaven using a core of two 3" pieces of N3 and N4 Talalay, topped by 1.5" of Talalay above the N4 layer and 1.5" of N1 Talalay above the N3 layer. Both of the 1.5" layers are also zoned. Overall, most of the feedback Iāve received from this product rate it as a firmer overall feel, regardless of the side being used, and it would have a different feel than the Sleep on Latex although any difference in design and materials can be cumulative and will also affect how closely any two mattresses compare in terms of āfeelā and performance and how well they match your specific needs and preferences.
Sleep on Latex Pure Green Latex Mattress (9" thickness) is more customizable if the initial firmness choice is not quite right and it has 3 firmness choices (Soft, Medium, Firm). The layers are 2" (NR) Dunlop Latex (Soft, Medium, Firm) comfort layer 6" (NR) Latex support layer, Heavy duty Zipper encasement hidden under the bottom edge of the mattress. Sleep on Latex is very āconsumer-centricā and takes consumer feedback into account ā¦ as Dunlop has a firmer feel than Talalay of the same ILD they recently transitioned to a slightly softer version of Dunlop to accommodate the consumer āneedā for more plushness. (Also if you decide that you like the feel of Talalay better than you can always call Sleep On Latex to accommodate this preference). Pure Green is also side by side customizable for different comforts on the left and right side, as well as choices of Dunlop or Talalay latex.
Latex, in general, is the most durable of all the foam materials (latex foam, memory foam, polyfoam) regardless of whether it is Dunlop or Talalay or is made from natural rubber, synthetic rubber, or a blend of both. You can peruse post #6 here to learn more about the different types and blends of latex in but the choice between different types and blends of latex is more of a preference and budget choice than a ābetter/worseā choice.
Dunlop has a different āfeelā and performance than Talalay and is less lively or springy. You can see a comparison between them in post #7 here but your own experience is really the only way to know which one you prefer with any certainty. Some people would notice more of a difference than others with transition or support layers that used each material if the top layers were the same type of latex because you will āfeelā more of the upper layers than the deeper layers ā¦ at least when you first lie on a mattress.)
It is worth adding that all latex you are likely to encounter (synthetic, all natural, or blended) is āsafeā and has been tested for VOCās and harmful substances to the same or very similar standards such as Oeko-Tex standard 100
Every design and choice of layers or materials will affect both the feel and performance of a mattress yes because every layer of a mattress contributes to itās performance and āfeelā in combination with every other layer and component ā¦ including the cover and quilting.
As you can see in post #2 here I can only speak to the quality and value of a mattress because there are too many variables and unknowns to know with any certainty which design and feel would be most suitable for you based on ātheory at a distanceā. There could also be several mattresses that may have different designs but work equally well in terms of PPP (Posture and alignment, Pressure relief, and Personal preferences). I am not very sure which version of the UD you ownā¦ but Dreamfoam has two links on Amazon for UD Natural Latex and UD Latex. Depending on the one you own the UD Natural Latex is described as having a 2lb density HD Poly base foam and UD Latex does not have the density of the support layer listed, but I would guess it is the more inexpensive version built with a lower density HD polyfoam which would have an impact on durability especially for heavier weight ranges and has the Blended Talalay Latex in the comfort layer.
While I donāt recommend specific mattresses (that always best left to your own personal testing or on more detailed conversations with a manufacturer who knows more about their mattresses than anyone) ā¦ Sleep On Latex is one of our Trusted Members of this site and like all the members here I think very highly of and consider them to be among the ābest of the bestā in the industry, which means that I believe they are among the best quality/value available ā¦ no matter which mattress you choose. When considering any purchase I would keep in mind though that the suitability of a mattress and itās quality are completely different and even if you choose the best quality mattress available it may not be suitable for your specific needs and preferences which means it would have little value to you.
Your final choice would of course entirely dependent on which of your criteria are the most important parts of your personal value equation. Following the steps in post #1 here is the most effective way I know to narrow down your options.
Good luck with your choice and Iāll be interested to learn of your eventual decisions.
Longtime reader, brand-new poster from Westchester, NY (10577). Iāve read the mattress shopping threads multiple times. I have been struggling with poor sleep for the past few months (but have been experiencing poor sleep off and on for much longer).
I am a back sleeper and sometimes side sleeper; though, on my current mattress, I often find that I wake up on my stomach, with my face in my pillow and a crick in my neck.
I purchased a Tuft & Needle memory foam mattress in 2015, and have primarily slept on that for the past 3 years. The primary issues I have with this mattress are that:
I donāt wake up feeling rested.
I tend to sleep hot, waking up with a puddle of sweat beneath me.
When lying in bed before I fall asleep, I donāt find it to be overly comfortable ā just satisfactory.
I struggle to tell if a mattress is actually comfortable AND supportive or not. I may feel comfortable lying on it, but when I wake up, I may be stiff, sore, or just tired. In general, my back and neck are pretty tight and sore.
I recently stayed in a hotel and had a great nightās sleep on a Simmons BeautyRest Recharge, which is an innerspring mattress (unlike my T&N). That was just one night (albeit one restful night) in a new space though.
From reading this site, Iām aware that Simmons mattresses arenāt the best from multiple perspectives. Iāve been looking at similar mattresses ā the Saatva seems pretty good. A friend has one, and he likes it. However, Iāve also read the Saatva threads here where Phoenix has concerns about the quality of some materials in the long term.
I find mattress shopping to be an ambiguous process. An individualās experience is so subjective that Iām not sure reviews and ratings ā aside from highlighting quality issues ā are very helpful. While I can focus on the construction of ā and materials in ā a mattress, itās difficult to compare different mattresses, even after having researched for months.
In sum: does anyone have any suggestions or advice for a mattress that fits with the challenges above that wonāt break the bank? Iād love to start sleeping well and feeling rested in the morning.
(I would have posted this as its own thread, but I see creation of new topics has been disabled in lieu of posting in the Ask An Expert section. But I donāt know which expert to askā¦)
Sorry to hear your Tuft & Needle isnāt working out for you as well as you had hopedā¦ but I am glad that youāve had the chance to peruse the forum and start your research.
Your sleeping position change may have been dictated by an unsuitable mattress or by a natural change that occurs sometimes with aging, or both. Regardless ā¦ it I suggest you keep this under observation in your quest for a new mattress. (Which adds a bit of a layer of complication)
From what you describe, it seems that you may have some overlapping comfort and alignment issues. In general, issues with āpainā or discomfort earlier in the night tend to be surface comfort related, and issues with āpainā in the morning tend to be more alignment (deep support) related, makes more difficult to separate the cause between the injury and the mattress. There are some general guidelines as to what tends to cause back pain in post #2 here that you may find informative.
This could have been the result of your foam layers coming apart and a shift of materials in your mattress, or it could be the result of the foams losing some of their structure over time and not providing you with either the support or comfort that you desire. If you are sinking more than before, this could be the cause of your neck issues (pillow not providing proper alignment anymore with you sinking into the mattress too much, and the prone sleeping position does not help with this either as this is one of the major complains of prone sleepers.)
There is more about the many variables that can affect the sleeping temperature of a mattress or sleeping system in post #2 here. If you decide to choose memory foam product youād want to make sure that you donāt choose something with so much memory foam on top that you sink in too deeply. While memory foam does a very good job at minimizing motions transfer it will generally be the least breathable and most insulating of the foam comfort materials, so temperature can be an issue.
You are correct to be skeptic of your one night experience with the hotel mattress mostly because when you sleep badly, almost anything else that offers you a good night rest would look like a major improvement and also because hotel mattresses tend to have manipulated comfort as they are usually chosen with a bit firmer feeling (usually medium-firm) and then they are customized with various ātop of bedā products such as polyfill toppers and plush mattress pads to add the needed extra-plushness. These are easier to replace and launder, and offer a more cost-effective solution to add a bit of plushness to a mattress. Thereās more good information about hotel mattresses in post #3 here.
As for reviews or other peopleās experiences ā¦ I agree with you that they wonāt tell you much if anything about the suitability, quality, durability, or āvalueā of a mattress for any particular person (see post #13 here ), and generally while they can be useful to gauge the reputation of a business, I recommend to avoid considering them as any sort of a reliable indicator of the quality or appropriateness of an item for any particular person.
In the current market itās a good idea to avoid the major brands because they are often overpriced and/or use lower quality and less durable materials in their mattresses than many of their smaller competitors although I would also avoid any mattress regardless of the name of the manufacturer where you arenāt able to find out the quality and durability of the materials inside it to make sure there arenāt any lower quality materials or āweak linksā in the mattress (see the guidelines here ).
This is one of the most common questions on the forum, and there is no shortcut to identifying the type of mattress and the feel you prefer and testing it against your needs. As far as ābreaking the bankā goes, you have many options both of our Trusted Members here and also non-members, provided that you do some local testing to orient yourself towards a product that meets your criteria based on your personal value equation that is most important to you (including the price of course and the options you have available after a purchase if your choice doesnāt turn out as well as you hoped for).
Anyone faced with this dilemma has a several approaches:
The first approach is to become an expert in all the different materials and methods of mattress construction that are part of every mattress. This involves knowing the differences between different materials, the variations in each different material, and how to determine the different quality levels of each material (for example the difference between ācheapā 3 lb memory foam and denser 5 lb memory foam which is more durable and performs very differently). It also involves a process which in most cases is more like pulling teeth (at least for chain stores and major brands) which is finding out the information that you need to determine quality and durability. In most cases ā¦ mainstream outlets and brands donāt even know this information and in many cases they refuse to disclose it so that comparison shopping is impossible. An hour on this site reading the overviews in the mattresses section will generally make you more of an āexpertā than the vast majority of the people who sell mattresses. I highly recommend avoiding this approach and the guidelines here will help you avoid most of the more common choices that end up leading to the purchase of a poor quality and value mattresses.
The second approach is to first find the better outlets in your area that either make or sell higher quality and value mattresses and that are what I call āmattress peopleā. these are people who already know what you otherwise would need to learn and who are committed to helping you find the most suitable mattress that fits your needs and preferences in your budget and will educate you about how to make better choices rather than āsellā you a mattress that benefits them more than it provides you wih long term satisfaction. These types of outlets are generally either factory direct outlets that make their own mattresses and sell them directly to the public or smaller local sleep shops that sell smaller independent or locally manufactured brands. This article will help you recognize these types of outlets.
I normally suggest enough research to ask better questions and that will help you know when people are giving you factual information or are just selling you marketing stories that have little to do with real quality and value. A mattress is only as good as the materials inside it and the construction methods that are used to make it.
A third option for those who donāt have good quality/value outlets in their area (and surprisingly there are many areas of the country that are dominated by chain stores and have few if any outlets where I would buy a single mattress that they sell) is an online purchase. This involves doing some local testing to know the materials that you prefer and then working with a knowledgeable mattress manufacturer that is skilled at helping you make good choices over the phone based on your local testing and on the type of information (like height/weight/sleeping positions/preferences) that will affect which of the mattresses they make would be your best choice. Many of these also provide the ability to re-arrange the layers of the mattress or to make layer exchanges at a nominal cost if your choices arenāt what you were hoping for. These types of outlets make the purchase of a high quality and value mattress available to those in areas of the country where there is little to no good quality and value mattresses available locally.
post #2 here post #13 here Youāve probably read through some of this material but two of the most important links in the tutorial that I would especially make sure youāve read are which has more about the different ways to choose a suitable mattress (either locally or online) that is the best āmatchā for you in terms of ācomfortā, firmness, and PPP that can help you assess and minimize the risks of making a choice that doesnāt turn out as well as you hoped for andwhich has more about the most important parts of the āvalueā of a mattress purchase which can help you make more meaningful quality/value comparisons between mattresses in terms of suitability (how well he will sleep), durability (how long he will sleep well), and the overall value of a mattress compared to your other finalists based on all the parts of your personal value equation that are most important to you (including the price of course and the options you have available after a purchase if your choice doesnāt turn out as well as you hoped for).
While nothing has a 100% success rate ā¦ with a local purchase for the majority of people ā¦ careful testing using the guidelines in the tutorial rather than just testing for the more subjective ācomfortā of a mattress (which often wonāt predict how well you will sleep on a mattress or how it will āfeelā when you sleep on it at home) and some good guidance from a knowledgeable and experienced retailer or manufacturer will usually result in a mattress choice that is well inside a suitable comfort/support range and will generally be āclose enoughā so that if any fine tuning is necessary it would be relatively minor and involve different mattress pads, sheets, mattress protectors, or perhaps even a topper if a mattress is too firm (see post #4 here and post #10 here ).
Some good local testing will also give you a much better sense of the many different types of materials and components that are used in mattresses and some reference points about the types of mattresses (see this article) and general firmness levels you tend to prefer which can help you narrow down your choices regardless of whether you end up purchasing locally or online.
Thank you Phoenix! I started reading TMU 6 months ago & appreciate all the good information here!
After my 1st showroom visit I didnāt know if Iād ever find a latex mattress thatād work. I have major back problems & nothing I tried worked, not to mention they were all over a 90 minute drive (one way).
Every time I mention latex, itāll mean Talalay. My first love was soft latex! But it gave me a back ache after 20 minutes. It was a medium 28 ILD core with a plush topper. So I tried a 32 ILD core and didnāt like it. Even with a soft topper, pressure points were a problem.
Yesterday, at AZ Premium Mattresses, we nailed it although I didnāt realize it. I tried a 28 ILD latex core by itself and it was fine. Then I tried a 28 ILD topper over a 32 ILD core. This felt better because it had more support. Then I asked the owner to add something for plushness. Even 2" of ILD 14 threw the support out the window. That ended the shopping day.
Today, I realize that I found the perfect mattress! Iām going to order the core in Talalay Blended ILD 32 with a 3" Talalay Blended topper ILD 28. Period. No plushness!!
Thanks for your update! You are correct that neutral alignment and good support are a priority and I am glad you seem to have found just the āsweet ILD spotā.
You are certainly making a great quality/value choice from one of the manufacturing Trusted Members of this site and like all the members here I think very highly of and consider them to be among the ābest of the bestā in the industry.
Iām looking forward to your comments and feedback once youāve had the chance to try it out and sleep on it for a while.
New member and first postā¦ First, I am glad to have found this site. It feels like a cove of refuge in a storm of information. There are so many sites that seem to be intended to appear brand neutral but seem to be designed to drive business to a certain vendor. Finding TMU was a welcome relief.
When we bought our Tempurpedic in 1998 it was relatively obscure and I had the audacity to order it over the internet, which at the time was not a very common method of procuring a mattress. I ordered it from Healthy Foundations before Tempupedic crushed their online discount vendors.
It was the first successful bed compromise for my spouse and I. I came from full motion waterbeds and my wife came from traditional S mattresses. We used a hybrid waterbed for a while with linear tubes covered by a more traditional mattress top. It was tolerable for both, but not very good for either.
The Tempurpedic was a revelation. After āmelt-inā I could sleep for a whole night on my back, barely moving, despite having had a back injury. Although very different it reminded me of the great sleep I used to get on a waterbed when splashing down in the middle of my king size bed by myself. Worked well for my side sleeper wife as well, but I digressā¦
Back in '98 we looked at Stroebelpedic, Tempurpedic and a few others. I was a little uncomfortable with the initial offgassing of the Tempurpedic original, but after that it has been great. Even now itās not too bad, but I notice kind of a high point ridge in the middle that slopes to either side. When my wife was away I slept right in the middle and noticed that the memory foam worked better there, more like original.
Now looking at mattresses again, it is a whole new world. Now internet purchase is common and there is a whole new category of industry disruptor bed in a box companies.
I spent time doing research and started to head in two directions. One was toward a newer memory foam mattress. The Select-a-bed tri-pedic or the related Tempflow series looked like a good best in class memory foam alternative. Even back in '98 I was intrigued with the idea of memory foam over latex so I started looking at that type of hybrid like the Select-a-bed Soft-pedic. Then the latex bug bit me hard and I have been looking at all the full latex options like those from SleepEZ and others.
Unfortunately all of those companies listed above that interested me are not based here where I am in the Pacific NW. Now on to some particulars:
I am 5-11, 170 lbs and prefer to sleep on my back or on my back with legs rotated to one side. I often need to move around now as the old tempurpedic does not seem to provide the same support and find myself also on my side. Sometimes if my back really hurts I might wake up on my stomach in the morning. Based upon what I have read here, and knowing a bit about my PPP I think I would like a soft Talalay comfort layer, but relatively thin so my lumber still gets good support. My wife is 5-6, 200+ side sleeper. We are 58ish in age.
Any ideas would be appreciated. I have been studying up on the different latex variations and ILD and the like. Have others gone from memory foam that they liked to latex and been equally or more happy? Are there any vendors in the greater Seattle area that would have some high quality latex to try? Sorry for the long first post.
Phoenix suggested that we provide you with some input as one of our areas of our expertise is in Latex Mattresses. We want to start off by congratulating you on your 20 years of success with a Tempurpedic mattress and being a pioneering early adopter to purchasing a mattress online. A great deal has changed in the past 20 years and you are wise to research before you make another purchase online mattress purchase.
One thing that we noticed in reading through your post is that you do not seem to be actively considering another Tempurpedic mattress. We know that brand loyalty is not very strong in mattresses. However, given your success with a Tempurpedic, it is a bit surprising you did not cite this in your post. Just an observation that caught our attention.
You noted than āI spent time doing research and started to head in two directionsā and that : ā¦.looking at mattresses again, it is a whole new world. Now internet purchase is common and there is a whole new category of industry disruptor bed in a box companies" .
Heading in two directions can be a bit precarious, especially in that you are considering 2 very different material technologies, High Density Memory Foam and Latex Foam. Because the feel and properties of these two materials are so different, we encourage you to ātest restā the newer age memory foams and both Dunlop and Talalay latex foams before you settle in on a specific direction. Once you have set your material of choice direction for your new mattress, then you will find both The Mattress underground and its Expert Members as a helpful set of resources for you in narrowing your alternatives. One point we should note, many of the disruptor bed-in-a-box companies sell products that are vastly inferior to the quality of materials that are in your 20-year old Tempurpedic. While buying from an online only mattress retailer can be a great value, queen size mattresses priced below $1000 rarely meet the needs of a luxury mattress customer such as yourself. Whichever direction you decide to pursue, please take your time to compare and benchmark the component quality.
There are plenty of retail sources in the Seattle area that carry latex that may be helpful in your next stage of research: Nest Beding (Trusted Member of this site)
Also, Tempurpedic has a flagship store in Tukwila https://www.tempurpedic.com/ We are not pushing Tempurpedic as much as suggesting that you benchmark others based on your 20+ years on a Tempur.
By making a few calls in advance can get a feel for the quality of the retail staff and narrow down your options so your store visits can be more focused. The Mattress Underground has several Trusted Members who can assist you once youāve set your direction, either in the latex category or in the High Density Memory Foam category.
Thank you, Steve. Your reply is very helpful and much appreciated. Surprisingly our 20 year old tempur is still OK. It seems like the foam sort of wears out suddenly, but it may just be perception. I certainly have no complaints about the value and longevity we received with it! I typically tend to be brand loyal with an excellent product, but Tempur crushed their internet discount sellers about the time I purchased our mattress and now their specs are vague and the huge number of variant models they sell are confusing. I am not dead set against replacing it in kind, but it seems like I can do better for my dollar with other manufacturers if I do decide to replace it with another HD memory foam mattress. I would like a more natural option, if it performs well for me. I am not tempted by the new market disruptors, but I am intrigued to explore the latex options.
I really appreciate the local NW references. I will check them out. I am in no hurry so I have the luxury of learning lots and proceeding accordingly. I am developing many latex questions as I learn more.
Have fun shopping! Itās always good to be in a position where you can take your time and analyze all your options. Please let us know what you learn and decide to do.
Hi,
I am looking for a recommendation on mattress for my kids bunk bed - full size.
I would like the mattress to be 7" or 9" latex or hybrid mattress for +/-$800. The most important for me is purity of the materials within the whole mattress assembly - no offgassing, no chemicals, glues. Currently I am considering:
7" Sleep on Latex mattress
EcoSleep by Arizona Mattress
kids mattress by Arizona Mattress
Are these mattresses free of any harmfull chemicals, glues, etc?
Are there any other reliable, not too pricy options for kids full size mattress that you could recommend?
I will appreciate your help.
Thank you.
These are all good things to consider when shopping for a childās mattress, but I would point out that all materials including latex will have some degree of off-gassing (some of which can be smelled and some that canāt) but the important part is whether any off-gassing is harmful. Even food has off-gassing that can be smelled. In the case of latex the smell isnāt harmful. Talalay latex tends to have a sweeter smell and Dunlop tends to have a more rubbery smell but neither are harmful and both have been tested to Oeko-Tex standard 100 class 1 (safe for babies) standards. Both will dissipate to levels below normal detection. Generally speaking, any mattress that uses materials that are durable enough and are in a suitable firmness range and that has a reliable safety certification and you consider to be safe enough would be a suitable choice for a child regardless of whether it has an organic certification. I personally donāt have any concerns about any type or blend of latex in terms of its āsafetyā.
[quote] Currently I am considering:
7" Sleep on Latex mattress
EcoSleep by Arizona Mattress
kids mattress by Arizona Mattress [/quote]
You are choosing between good and good. ā¦there are no weak links or lower quality materials in any of the two choices you listed and each could make a suitable and safe choice and both would fall in your budget range.
The 7" Pure Green is made with 100% Natural Dunlop Latex and organic cotton cover with quilted wool and zippered cover. The 6" EcoSleep for children is made with blended Talalay latex and uses what they call āfall offā which is strips of latex that are glued together to make a Twin or Full size latex core. They are using a water-based adhesive Greeguard Gold certified which is a reliable certification for VOCs and safe for children.
Generally, for growing children, youād want something more in the āmediumā to āmedium-firmā range, due to their epiphyseal plate and postural formation, but other than this I would make your final choice based your preferences of materials, which one you believe would be most suitable for your children, your conversations with each manufacturer, the options you have to change the comfort level of the mattress when your children get older, their body matures and develops, and their needs and preferences change (by adding a topper, flipping the mattress, or changing the layering), your budget, and finally based on ābest judgementā and which one you are āleaning towardsā most strongly.
You may have read this already but just in case you havenāt ā¦ some more reading for your peace of mindā¦, there is more information in post #2 here and the topics it links to about mattresses and children and āsuitableā and āsafeā materials including a link to some general guidelines for children in post #2 here.
I would suggest āLinenspa 8 Inch Memory Foam and Innerspring Hybrid Mattressā for kids. Itās both bouncy and comfortable, very sturdy. Itās also not heavy - it has springs inside that are not covered by plastic.
I appreciate your contributions, desire to help, and disclosing your connection to your own āanti-mattressā website :). I am always glad to see real consumers become increasingly aware, discriminate, and cut through the marketing stories and tactics that the mattress industry abounds in. Even though you are not selling any products and while it is admirable that you wish to make a āsmall dentā in consumer mentality when it comes to buying a new bed, I have deleted the link to your website from your signature ā¦ as this is against our Forum Rules here. A link in the signature is reserved for our Trusted Members, Expert Members, and Consumer Contributor Members of our site.
As a side note for those who wish to make their research available for the benefit the general public and thus contribute to consumer awareness and education, something that TMU will be adding to its website and Forum is the āofficialā participation of Consumer Contributor Members who are non-affiliated and not employed in the mattress industry individuals with related experience and qualifications who have done a great deal of independent research in a topic connected with sleep and mattresses. The research must be substantiated and it will require citing of its research resources to assist with the validation of the information presented.
Thank you Phoenix! I really appreciate your detailed answer and additional links where I was able to learn even more about buying the right mattress for my kids. I am also glad that both companies that I am considering are listed on your website as trusted mattress providers.
The market is flooded with so many choices that it is overwelming to do reaserch on the right mattress. Your website definetelly helps.
Thank you.
I agree that it can be overwhelming to weed through the many offerings and advertising stories.
I am glad we can help! and thank you for your kind words.
If you have any other questions feel free to post back and I or any of our Expert Members weāll be happy to assist you.
