They emailed me and asked asked for more photos. Iâll let you know what happens. Thanks so much!
Plushbeds said the top of their outside cover is 1" thick, but the sides of their cover are 1/2" to 1/4" thick. So they recommend 54" wide layers. They are now sending me 54" replacements for the top two layers. They said they âhave requested for it to undergo strict quality control and have them measure it to 54 inches.â
They were resistant to replacing the top layer at first, but when I mentioned their 100 night guarantee they suddenly said they would do it. Until that moment I thought I was going to need to return the entire thing and start over with a different company.
I really appreciate your help, as I donât think I would have gotten this resolved without it! Iâm disappointed Plush Beds didnât step up and help me figure out what was going on. But at least they are now doing the right thing and it is getting resolved.
Thanks!
Kristen
Hi guys.
I canât seem to figure out how to post a new thread for my question, so I apologize for posting my question here.
Iâm in rather urgent need for a new mattress as Iâm having really poor sleep. Here is what Iâve gathered. Iâd really appreciate any recommendations. â
I am a 160 pound male. I am a back sleeper. I seem to be extremely sensitive to the firmness of the mattress. Any soft mattress I sleep on would give me terrible sleep quality at night. The basic requirement seems to be that the mattress MUST be firm. If not, I wake up with back pain and I donât get into deep sleep (no/shallow REM sleep). It seems I need a mattress with a strong support, so a firm mattress.
I started off first with a Dormio latex mattress, because I read here that latex is probably the highest quality material for a mattress. They were very nice, but because latex tries to contour the shape of the mattress to the body, even the firmest option wasnât optimal. Iâm thinking that latex mattresses wonât work for me, and I need a very high quality coil mattress or something.
If Iâm looking for a high quality firm mattress, what should I be looking for?
Thank you very much guys.
Hi thaliadaniels.
Glad to be of assistance.! 
I have removed the pet bed link from your post as is against the rules of our forum here.
Phoenix
I canât seem to start a new thread on the General Questions forum. Iâm shopping for a mattress for my husband and I.
He sleeps primarily on his side, is 5â7" and weighs about 215. I sleep either on my side or stomach- changing positions in the night, am 5â6" and weigh about 155. He has been suffering from shoulder pain which wakes him up. I am struggling with night sweats.
We currently have a pretty firm Sealy Posturepedic king mattress. Often when we sleep at inns/air b&bs, we find that the mattresses feel âtoo softâ compared to our own. In these situations, I struggle with lower back pain. During my mattress search, I believe that what I thought was âsoftnessâ was actually lack of support. We sleep best on our home mattress, but I think we are discovering that it is causing pain because it is too firm to provide any pressure relief- especially for my husband who has joint pain (knees and shoulder).
I believe Iâve narrowed my choices down to the Nest Hybrid Latex (Natural, not Organic) in the Medium firmness. In part, Iâm attracted to the idea that we can swap out the Medium layer for the Firm comfort layer, or even split comfort layers if we find out that our needs are different.
Does this sound like a reasonable plan?
Thanks!
Hi griffin.
Welcome to our Mattress Forum!
It is always very rewarding and makes things so much simpler when consumers take a bit of time to understand their sleeping landscape. You are correct and seem to be heading in the right direction. It sounds like you did some good research and have a very good understanding of what your needs are ⌠and you are also wise to make some provisions for fine-tuning of the sleeping system if need be by choosing a mattress that can be customized after purchase.
I heartily agree with youâŚthe two main functions of every mattress are to keep your spine and joints inside the range of their neutral alignment in all your sleeping positions and to relieve pressure by redistributing your weight across the surface of the mattress. Sometimes it can be a struggle to tune in on the correct combination of primary/secondary support and comfort for your particular needs and preferences especially when dealing with higher weight differential between sleeping partners as you both will need different contour and support configurations at your respective weights and sleeping positions. Iâll only add a couple more thoughts that may be helpful in your final selection that you may wish to look into:
Your husbandâs BMI is 33.67 kg/m2 which is higher than yours at 25.02 kg/m2 so you may also wish to consider a split side by side option to ensure the softness/firmness suitability for both. With your prone sleeping position, youâd also need a firmer sleeping surface too and you may wish to review the guidelines in this [url=Your sleeping style, preferences, and statistics - Your sleep positions - The Mattress Underground] Sleep Positions Article [url] so that you avoid hyperextension in a swayback position that can cause back issues. You did not mention what your husbandâs sleeping position is but from your description it sounds like he sleeps on his side and heâd certainly need a bit more pressure relief and a softer/thicker comfort layer.
Just in case you missed it Post #3 here(which I think you may have already found) has more information and suggestions about heavier weights that is worth reading. A high BMI presents special challenges and generally requires firmer materials (which is good because it can go hand in hand with your prone sleeping position) Heavier people, in general, will need firmer and thicker comfort layers and firmer support layers than those who are lighter and because no materials will last as long with much higher weights the quality and durability of the materials and components is even more important than normal.
Your choice of materials within the mattress you ânarrowed downâ is very appropriate for the issues you mentioned⌠Latex, in general, is also the most breathable and âtemperature neutralâ of all the different types of foam materials so this along with the Joma Wool used within the cover, and natural cotton. will certainly help with the night sweats.
Latex allows for more air flow than any other foams and when changing positions on the mattress the air will be moved in and out like within an accordion. The issue of the sleeping microclimate on a mattress is a complex one and each layer of a mattress ⌠especially the ones that are closest to the body ⌠contributes to the overall effect in one way or another and of course, there are many other factors involved such as how deeply you sink into insulating materials that have different ventilation levels (this is connected to the comfort of the mattress). Hopefully, this will fill in any gaps that arenât in the other posts I linked.
There is more about the many variables that can affect the sleeping temperature of a mattress or sleeping system in post #2 here that can help you choose the types of materials and components that are most likely to keep you in a comfortable temperature range. Latex itself is a quite breathable material.
In a way I am glad that you have one more reason to stay away from B&B and âHotel mattressesâ because they tend to be lower quality and value than the consumer mattresses made by the same manufacturer in the same price range and more basic versions of the retails products that many mattress companies offer (which isnât a good thing). It usually depends for how long theyâve been uses and broken they are in their life cycle but one of the âsecretsâ to many hotel and B&b mattress is that they usually use a bedding package that includes a mattress pad or topper that is a big part of how the mattress feels and can also add to the durability of the mattress (replacing a mattress pad or topper can be less costly than replacing a whole mattress because a mattress or sleeping system will usually soften or break down from the top down). In many cases, the more subjective short term experience of sleeping at a hotel is an improvement over the mattress that people sleep on regularly and this often âtranslatesâ into the perception that hotel mattresses are better than they are. They are a frequent source of buyerâs remorse. They tend to be firmer products using softer âtop-of-bedâ materials to create extra plushness. Thereâs more good information about hotel mattresses in post #3 here.
Nest Bedding as you probably know are a member of this site which means that I think very highly of them and that I believe they compete well with the best in the industry. They offer excellent customer service and have staff that will guide you through your choices to ensure suitability and Iâd make sure to reach out to them for guidance.
Note: Once youâve had the chance to see my reply here Iâll be moving your post to a different thread to better reflect the topic.
Let us know what youâve decided and of course, any other questions you may have.
Phoenix
Thanks for your comprehensive response! I did talk to a representative at Nest, and they steered me to the Medium firmness in the Hybrid Natural Latex. The only issue remaining is with the foundation. We have a new platform bed on order- it is an Amish made semi custom piece, with a solid, furniture-grade plywood base over storage drawers on both sides and a bookcase headboard. The solid plywood is not recommended by Nest.
I need to look for something I can put over the plywood- I started reading through the pinned post on this forum. I found the Coir mats- is that enough? I couldnât find a slat conversion kit- Flobeds shows something on their site, but they donât sell it.
Iâm not entirely sure how high we want to raise the mattress- we canât raise it too high or it will block the storage compartments in the headboard. Iâm waiting on an exact max height from the manufacturer, but weâll definitely need something low profile or ultra low profile.
Thanks-
Nicole
Hi gryffin/Nicole.
I am glad that Nest closely guided you through the selection process (they are very skilled and knowledgeable) ⌠their Hybrid Natural Latex is a good quality/value option that seems to be a close fit to your needs and preferences. Of course, until you sleep on it for a while and allow your body to adjust to the mattress and for the mattress to break in a bit you canât be 100% sure, but so far all looks very promising.
A Choir bed rug would be a good choice as its porous structure allows for air to circulate more freely between the mattress bottom and the plywood. While IMO the bed rug in combination with the pocket coils would ensure adequate ventilation and breathability, as usual in these cases I always recommend checking manufacturer policies and ask them to clarify if using the coconut husks layer for ventilation would be enough and wouldnât invalidate their mattress warranty in case things donât turn out as well as you have hoped for. You can read Joe Alexanderâs (Nestâs CEO) thoughts about mattress breathability in this article here.
You probably came across some of my past recommendations for something like this bed rug in between the mattress and the plywood ⌠SavvyRestâs 1" bed Rug would most likely be thin enough to still allow access to the storage compartments in the headboard. FloBeds slat conversions here (which has no flex) would also be suitable so Iâd make a call find out if is discontinued or if they just donât have it available at the moment. I also previously linked one of the Ikea slatted bed bases here (which youâd certainly need to check on the thickness but because it has some flex it may change how the mattress feels and performs). You can also look into something like the fabric covered Bunkie Boards here that wouldnât add too much height to your platform bed. If this passes Nestâs approval and if you are somewhat DIY inclined this can be a fun little project to make it fit your platform bedâs exact height specifications.
I am looking forward to hearing what the final setup is and how it all works out for you.
Phoenix
We bought a Casper queen mattress from Costco, which is the 12" version of their standard mattress. While itâs much more comfortable than our old brand-name coil-spring mattress, after a few nights, we think it may be too firm for our liking.
For myself (male, 6â2", 200lb), it feels firmer than I would like initially, but I feel comfortable once Iâm in and sleep well. I wake with far less leg pain, though I donât know if itâs been any better for my back/shoulders. My wife (5â7", 150) likes softer mattresses though, and so far, she has yet to last a night in it. She complains that it is too firm, and also (being the middle of winter), too cold. I think the cooling aspect will be amazing come summer, but it definitely feels cold whenever you roll onto a new area.
I like the all-foam mattresses, and my wife does too, but itâs hard to find good information on a lot of them regarding softness. I found one place that said the Casper is only a 5.5 on a 10-point softness scale, but another said it was a 7 (which is more believable). We probably want to go at least a point further toward the soft end of the scale. Iâm less concerned about the coolness of the Casper, like I said, I think that will be great once the weather turns, and Iâm fine just piling on a few more blankets in the winter. If anyone has any suggestions for a softer version of the Casper, Iâd really appreciate it. Weâd like to stay in the $500-$800 price range (the Casper @Costco was $600).
Thank you.
Hi Dom12,
Welcome back to the forum:).
I see the 12" version on Costco website, and of course, there is no information on specs. I am not surprised its bit too firm, they went more firm in the beginning of their âone skuâ days, and this being the â12â version" it is not surprising. Caspers need to give toppers away for many months, additionally, in the industry, it is known they have had issues with the top comfort layers.
I know there are members on this site that can get to that price range, and can also get you a "softer, yet still supportive for you and your wifeâs needs. Check out their sites, maybe call some of them⌠they are very familiar with the Casper models, so they will be able to most likely point you in the right direction. Let us know if you have other questions.
Thanks,
Sensei
Hello and thank you for the wealth of information. I have been researching for about a month. I am in Canada. I am a mostly side sleeper and weigh somewhere between 210 and 230. I have had an Isoform Opulence by Bergad for about 13 years and loved it. I happen to like feeling like I am sleeping a bit âinâ a bed instead of on one which is why I love me more foam. I recently got the Recore bed for a trial and 2 weeks in am miserable. I think latex feels like sleeping on a trampoline and the bed is killing my lower back.
I have narrowed down to two options I think.
- The Cumulus bed by MFC which has the edge system and 5lb layers but I really wish had a bit more thickness. I also need a cal king as I have a motorized base that is a cal king. I called Mario and he sent me info but the cal king is $1749 which is really stretching my budget but honestly ends up being only about $100 more than the Novosbed, but there is no trial. Plus pillows yay, but still, no returns.
- The Novosbed Medium and then eventually get the soft comfort + added. Things I like are the HD foam at 5lb and the 11" thickness and the full 7" support foam. After the comfort + it becomes a 13" bed. They have no edge system built in though. I also feel like MFC is likely a bit higher quality foams.
I really am hoping to avoid another return situation as I just want to sleep without pain. Any advice greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
Bleu
Hey Bleu,
Welcome to the Mattress Forum! :).
You are very welcome and thank you for the nice words about TMU. Both choices seem to be good, and I understand your concerns mentioned. More height? Is this for the type of bed you have? Or other reason? Just curious, as height seems to be a lesser focus, no data to support this opinionmjust my read on industry people.
Regarding the two companies, MFC is one of our trusted members., unfortunately, Novosbed is not a member. TMU can trust and verify the transparency and quality of the materials of our members. MFC can also answer any other questions you may have if you want to ask them directly anytime on their profile page links.
Additionally, as you can see from this post, one of our consumers provided an update on the Novosbed specs. We also highly recommend for you to verify this information for yourself.
[quote]âOld Novosbed-Mediumâ
2" 5lb, 9 ILD memory airflow top;
2" 5lb, 9 ILD memory;
7" 1.8lb, 32 ILD Support
âNew Novosbed-Mediumâ
1" - 1.95 lb / 9 IFD - 5th generation premium airflow foam ;
1" - 4 lb / 11 IFD - 5th-generation high-density visco-elastic memory foam;
2" - 4 lb / 11 IFD - 5th-generation high-density visco-elastic memory foam;
7" - 1.75 lb / 32 IFD - Premium support foam[/quote]
The new specs, if correct, are not âbadâ per se, the 1.95 lb top 1" is certainly below our reccomedations in our durability guidelines.
The Bergad Isoform, have not seen that name in a while, speciality polyfoam company in PA, if remeber correctly.
The more you ask questions, the more you can help alleviate the return risk, please continue to use the forum and ask any other questions you may have.
Thanks,
Sensei
Thank you so much. I will be calling Novosbed right away to ask directly.
The height issue is mainly because I weigh more and keep reading for my weight I should get a mattress at least 12 inches.
I will definitely keep asking questions
Thank you so much.
Bleu
Hey Bleu,
You are welcome, it seems you are well on your way to working something out, as i read your other posts, good luck!!!
Sensei
That mattress height recommendation is thrown around on a number of mattress sites. Itâs wrong in the context itâs used in (Iâve even seen sites claim thick mattresses are bad for thinner people).
The best âexplanationâ Iâve seen on these sites is the thicker mattress keeps you from bottoming out, but the reality is that the construction of the mattress is what keeps you from bottoming out. Over a nominal thickness (maybe 9-10 inches), the only difference is a potentially plusher feel.
I wouldnât worry too much about hitting some magic number for how thick a mattress is - I would just focus on getting what you want.
As an aside, if you were referring to the novosbed recore earlier, itâs not necessarily a good example of a latex mattress. Itâs more polyfoam than latex (without a lot of easy to find specs on either). That said, it sounds like you want to sink really deeply into a mattress and not have it spring back. You might want to make sure to go for slower response memory foam, as some foams spring back more quickly.
[color=black]What is the best latex mattress for me? Dilworth or Sleeping Organic
I discovered your website last week and found it extremely helpful in my quest for a new mattress. Mattress shopping is complicated and your website has helped me better understand the many options available. Thank you so much for educating consumers like me. You are providing a great service.
I am in the market for a new queen mattress. My current mattress is a inner springs firm that is about 12 to 15 years old. I have been looking for a foam mattress. Initially I was looking at memory foam, but after some research on your site and other places, I believe latex is a better choice as it seems to have a number of advantages over memory foam. I live in the Charlotte, NC area. Other relevant info is I am 74 years old, 5â8" and 150 pounds, and primarily a slide sleeper. I have mild asthma and acid reflux, but otherwise no major health issues.
There is a local mattress manufacturer, Dilworth Mattress, which manufactures latex and other types of mattresses. I talked with the owner who is the third generation of his family in this business. It seems to have a very good reputation as far as I can tell. I tried some mattresses in his showroom and found this product very comfortable: 10" latex mattress with 3 layers: 1.5" talalay soft (24 ILD), 2" talalay medium (28 ILD), 6" talalay firm ( 36 ILD). The talalay is a blended 60% natural, 40% synthetic, all made in USA. He believes the blend is a better product than natural. He would do natural layers at a higher price. Their price is $1995 for mattress and $2199 for set and $100 delivery and setup. The mattress is zippered and allows the customer to switch layers if they want to.
The owner claims he has been selling this product for many years and most customers get 17 to 20 years from it. I want a product that will serve me well for many years. I common complaint I hear is that mattresses work well initially and then begin to sag or cause back problems in a few years. I want to avoid that which is one reason I am willing to pay more for a mattress.
I saw the Sleeping Organic in Charleston, SC on your website. I called them and they have more options with latex (both talalay and Dunlop). They only use natural latex and claim it is superior to the blended latex. I configured a 10" mattress as follows: 2" talalay soft (19 to 23 ILD), 2" Dunlop medium (26 to 32 ILD) and 6" firm base (36 to 40 ILD). Their talalay is sourced from Sri Lanka and Dunlop from Poly Global but she said it was made in USA. They seem to have all the certifications desired for their latex. Their price is $1596 for the mattress and $1,971 for the set and free shipping (UPS). Their base is expensive at $375 versus $200 for Dilworth. As I understand it, the customer has to insert all the layers into the zippered cover.
Sleeping Organic allows 45 Night $99 Flat Return Fee for Personalized Mattresses and 100 Night $50 Layer Comfort Exchange for Personalized Mattresses. Dilworth has a 30 day comfort guarantee that allows exchange for other mattresses, only paying any difference in price. Sleeping Organic has the edge here.
I would like your thoughts and opinions about these 2 choices and any others you think I should consider. Do you think there is a significant difference in the 2 choices? I like the idea of a natural latex but I am not sure if that is significant or not as each company claims their latex is superior. I am not sure if the flexibility of different latex types is significant or not. I also like the idea of a local company in Charlotte although Charleston is only 3 hours away. My daughter lives in Charleston and I am there often. I could go there and try out their mattresses at their store to get a better idea of the right firmness and actually see the mattresses in person.
Thank you for your help.
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Hi johnep,
Welcome to the Mattress Forum!
Thank you for those kind words about our site and you are welcome. As you say, it can get complicated but you seem to be focused on two really good choices. Although Dilworth is a small manufacturer and not a member of our site, Dilworth is known as quality and reputable company by industry insiders. As you already know Sleeping Organic is one of our trusted members, so we can rely on their transparency and quality of materials.
Both choices obviously are using quality materials, Dilworth is clearly using blended Talalay latex from Talalay Global. And Sleeping organic uses organic certified producers. No Talalay is made in Sri Lanka, Talalay is made in USA and the Netherlands only. I think this was just a misunderstanding from the person on the phone. For more info on the differences please see this earlier post about natural latex and blended latex.
It is actually to be accurate and tell the difference and how they feel to you without trying them. Two manufacturers can use the exact same latex layers and then use different fabric and different finishing processes and they feel entirely different. It would be well worth your time to visit your daughter and try the particular build from Sleeping Organic. Each sleeper has different needs but you most likely will find a âfeelâ difference between the two options which may be the most important factor, more important than return cost/timeframe, price and many other variables in your personal value equation when choosing a mattress because âwhatâ to choose in terms of either a mattress or the balance between comfort/pressure relief and support/alignment that may be suitable for a specific person is always up to the only person who can feel what only they can feel on a mattress and is best left to personal testing and their own experiences or more detailed discussions with the more knowledgeable people at the retailers or manufacturers that sell a mattress you are considering. For more information when trying the mattress locally, please read steps 2 and 3 in this post to help you to determine the best pressure relief and support.
Good luck! ⌠you are on the right track.
Phoenix
[color=black]Phoenix, thanks so much for your helpful reply. I have continued to research my options and after reviewing vendors on your website, I contacted Arizona Premium and discussed options with Ken. I am interested in his DIY approach. He has provided me quotes based upon information I provided him, notably my testing of several mattresses locally which are as follows:
Naturepedic EOS Trilux, all with 3 layers of 3" natural Dunlop, 10" profile with zippered cotton cover with wool padding. Layers could be swapped and 90 day exchange.
#1, side 1 S-S-F Good
#1, side 2 S-M-F Good
#2, Side 1 XS-S-F Good
#2, Side 2 M-M-F Too firm
OMI Organicpedic Duo, 3 3" inch layers of Dunlop, 10" profile with zippered cotton cover with wool padding. The sales tag says core is âcertified organic natural rubber latexâ but also says âAlso available in 100% natural rubber latexâ. It sounds like the product I tested is a blend. 90 day layer exchang.
S-M-F Good
Posh-Lavish, comfort layers were talalay and base was Dunlop. I was told natural but website says it is a blend. Their cover was not padded like others but it was still nice.
Relax model: 2" tal. M, 6" dun. F Too firm
Restore model: 3" tal. S, 6" dun. F Good
Dilworth Mattress
Blue Heaven Firm â 3.5" HD foam and 6" talalay blended. Too firm
Performance â blended talalay â 3layers, ILD = 1.5" 24, 2" 28 and 6" 36 Good feel
I am not sure if the talalay blend was 60/40 or 40/60. Based on your website, it may have been 30/70.
Overall, there was not much difference in the mattresses I rated good. I suppose at my 150 weight and being a side sleeper, I have a greater range of options than some others. The best may have been the Posh-Lavish 3" tal. S and 6" Dunlop firm, although I want to have at least 3 layers and minimum of 9" plus cover. Also need a non wool cover due to allergies.
Ken suggested either 2 3" dunlop firm and a 3" Talalay soft would be good or a 6" firm dunlop with 2" medium Talalay and 2 or 3" soft Talalay. The 3 3" layers felt good and gives flexibility in getting right firmness, but he said that a thicker core was better for durability. Based upon that, he priced a 6/2/2 all natural Dunlop core and Talalay comfort.
Ken is obviously very knowledgeable about mattresses and I think he has provided sound recommendations. But in the spirit of 2 heads are better than one, I would like to ask you a few questions:
- What are your thoughts about a 3 3" layer configuration?
- Are 2" comfort layers thick enough to give the necessary performance? I prefer natural which increases the price and the extra thickness will increase it more. Not sure if the added thickness is meaningful relative to the added cost.
- Based upon my testing of mattresses, are there other configurations to consider?
- I am not one of those âall organicâ type of people, but it seemed to me that if you are going to use a ânaturalâ product, then it should be all ânaturalâ provided the cost was reasonable. Am I missing something with this mode of thinking?[/color]
Hi johnep,
Well done with all the trials, and yes Ken from Arizona Premium Mattress (one of our Trusted Members here) is very knowledgeable with a long history of making latex mattresses and fine-tuning them to match customer needs and preferences.
There would be little if any practical difference between two 3" support layers and a single 6" support layer if they were all the same type and blend of latex and the same ILD and were inside a tight fitting cover with 3" inches of latex of the same ILD on top of them. Two 3" layers would respond a little more independently and because the elasticity of the top 3" wouldnât be connected and âpulling backâ on the bottom 3" when it compresses and âin theoryâ it may act a little bit softer but in practical and real-life terms most people wouldnât notice any difference in terms of performance or firmness. If a single 6" core with a 3" comfort layer was a good match for you in terms of PPP then there would be little benefit in having multiple 3" layers that were the equivalent ILD. As long as donât move to something too soft for the bottom 6" you should be ok.
Two-inch layers, in theory, are definitely enough to give proper performance. Different people have different needs and preferences and one is not better than the other as itâs all about which one is the best match for you in terms of PPP (Posture and alignment, Pressure relief, and Personal preferences).
Regarding other configurations, it would be very tricky for me or anyone else to begin recommending different configurations, it is really about you matching up what is best based on your research, history, and local testing. ⌠any specific tweaking from TMU cannot be a substitute for this ⌠we typically make sure that you are heading in the right direction, offer some guidance, and provide any necessary supportive information but generally the best and most accurate recommendations always come from the retailers/manufacturers themselves as they are much more familiar with their materials and own mattress designs than anyone else (including me) and they can use the information you provide them about your body type and sleeping positions, your preferences, your history on different mattresses, and the results of your local testing to make suggestions based on the âaveragesâ of other customers that may be similar to you.
I think your view of not going with âall organicâ is quite common and many people tend to place this criterion lower in their personal value equation. It 's also worth mentioning there is no Talalay latex in the world that has organic certification but that does not make it less desirable, and whether in its natural, the blended or synthetic version is one of the best foams used in mattresses. Itâs important to note that blended is not âbadâ by any means and is still a âmore naturalâ product than many others. Most of the blended latex products are 30/70 (sales people just like to say its 70/30) but that is simply not the case with the formulas /manufacturers that have been mentioned. There is also more about organic, natural, green, and âsafeâ materials in post #2 here and the posts it links to because many people that are looking for âorganicâ materials are often just looking for materials that they can have confidence are âsafeâ.
Good luck with the fine tunning and Iâd be interested to know what your final decision is!
Phoenix
I am curious about having a full platform under my Zenhaven, as required by the warranty. Joe Alexanderâs article makes it sound like this could create a moisture issue within the mattress. Would this hold true in a dry climate (semi arid desert?) Also, wouldnât the mattress ventilate somewhat through the sides?
My ZH foundation is failing and Iâve been looking at options to replace it that wonât void the warranty. My reluctance to put my bed on top of plywood to satisfy the warranty is nudging me towards starting over with a manufacturer who can jibe with a slatted base.
Thanks in advance!