It's bed time again

Are wire foundations like the one I have suitable for the mattress I purchased?

Hi drog,

That question would be best asked of the manufacturer, but generally the unit you bought (Ultimate Hybrid) with pocketed springs on the bottom and latex on top would do fine with the grid network base you purchased, as long as the network is still in good shape. The top of your platform base is very similar to the “semi-flex” bases that many manufacturers still use for their product lines, and many of their models use a pocketed spring unit similar to what you have.

Phoenix

Thanks. One more question…

Is dunlop latex, by nature, reversible for different firmness levels? I ask because my bed came in today and one side of the dunlop latex foam certainly felt a bit softer than the other (the cut side felt softer if that makes a difference). Also, I know I need to sleep on it for a while but I am wondering if I went a little too firm this time. I am surprised 4 ILD makes such a difference, though it was from talalay to dunlop as well. In any case, if flipping the latex can make a difference in firmness I would try that before asking for a different topper if it came down to that.

I am really shocked by how much more support this bed seems to offer than my last one. I know it’s still way to early to really have a knowledgeable opinion but my initial impressions is that I’m happy the mattresses.com salesman (Greg Holloway) talked me out of the 36 ILD others were recommending.

EDIT: On second though, I may just not be used to the extra support in the mid section.

Hi drog,

While not necessarily produced to be “reversible”, some people can feel the difference from the “top” side to the “bottom” side of a piece of Dunlop latex. This of course will depend upon the type of Dunlop production process used, the blend, fillers, etc. (and the sensitivity of each individual), but there can be a bit of a difference in comfort that can be noticed when flipping the uppermost layer in a mattress.

If the slit side felt a bit softer, than most likely your piece would be the bottom piece of a 6" core that was slit in the middle.

4 ILD is usually enough of a difference for most people to notice, but you are also correct that you are compounding that by going from a similar ILD in Talalay to Dunlop, and a similar ILD in Dunlop will also feel a bit firmer to most people than the same ILD in Talalay because of the difference in compression modulus (Dunlop gets “firmer faster” than Talalay as compressed generally after 25%).

You certainly can flip your top Dunlop layer so that the “softer” side is facing upward to help you with adjusting to your new mattress. It does take a period of time for your body to adjust to any new product and lose some of its “learned alignment”, and you may feel that you move “backwards” a bit for a few days in comfort, but your body should then begin to adapt to your new, more supportive, sleep surface. The covering of the mattress will also soften a bit with use.

A detailed phone conversation is always what I recommend before placing your order, as the manufacturer has the best knowledge about their products to advise what they feel will best work for your particular situation. Manufacturers always comment to me that there is a much higher satisfaction rate when customers phone and consult with one of their comfort specialist.

I’m looking forward to your updates after you’ve had a chance to adjust to your new mattress and sleep upon it for a while longer.

Phoenix

So I ended up with a 38 ILD Dunlop top layer. And while that worked well last year, I have lost nearly 75 pounds since the new year and now this mattress is painfully firm. Keeping in mind I plan to lose at least 90 more pounds and don’t want to spend anything significant until I do so, what is the cheapest way to find comfort again?

Hi drog.

Welcome back and congratulations on your weight loss! … 75 pounds is quite a feat. :lol:

Losing that much weight would certainly make a substantial difference in how firm a mattress feels… in general, a mattress would feel firmer for lighter people than the same mattress would feel for those who are in higher weight and losing even more weight will further change your needs and preferences quite significantly. The good news is that your mattress (From Arizona Premium) can accommodate this changes fine tunning what you have rather you having to replace the entire mattress. I’d say that the most cost-effective way would be to add a softer topper to your existing mattress for some extra softness and pressure relief and when the time comes you can move to stage two and exchange the top layer within your mattress for a softer ILD.

There is more information about choosing a topper in post #2 here and the topper guidelines it links to which along with a conversation with a reliable and knowledgeable supplier. Because of the uncertainty involved with purchasing a topper where you can’t test the combination in person … a good exchange/return policy can also reduce the risk of an online topper purchase so I would also make sure you are comfortable with the options you have available after a purchase to exchange or return the topper and any costs involved just in case a topper you choose also doesn’t turn out as well as you hoped for.

The topper and component reference post here includes the better online sources I’m aware of for latex toppers and components. You may wish to comb through some of our Trusted Members of the site who offer latex toppers and allow for topper exchanges. I don’t keep track of such specific details, as these policies are always changing, but at least it’s a bit of a start for you. Most businesses don’t offer a “comfort exchange” on toppers, as the feel of the topper is greatly influenced by the surface upon which it is placed, and a retailer has no control over this.

Phoenix