I think I have narrowed down my exhausting mattress search to two latex mattresses (queen size), the Sleep On Latex Pure Green and the Sleep EZ Natural Latex. Besides the $400 price difference (as of now) and the fact that Sleep EZ is more customizable (which isn’t worth an extra $400 to me), is there any additional value that the Sleep EZ has over the Sleep On Latex? I would really prefer to stay in the $1,200 budget range, but I’m willing to go up if there is extra value in durability (looking for about 7 years). I appreciate your help and I’m glad I finally found a site that doesn’t say every mattress is great just to drive sales through affiliate links.
I wanted to get your input regarding my most recent post about the OSO mattress. It seems that someone may have accidentally posted in “my topic.” I did place an order for the OSO and I will update you to let you know how things go moving forward.
Thank you for keeping us updated. I am glad that OSO/Reverie was so responsive and that they are taking good care of you. Good customer support before and after purchase is an important consideration in most consumers’ personal value equation.
You chose a unique product which contains 3" of Reverie dreamcell Dunlop latex cylinders that create a softer zone under the shoulders and upper torso that can allow the shoulders to sink in more deeply to help with pressure relief and alignment of the shoulders and upper body. It uses good quality components with no weak links in the materials relative to any weight range. I hope this design works well for you and meets all your comfort/support needs and preferences and I am glad that you chose something that has a good policy in case things don’t work as well as you would wish to.
I’m looking forward to your comments and feedback you might have once you’ve had the chance to sleep on it for a while.
Phoenix
I did notice that “someone” hijacked “your” topic … we do get a bit of crosstalk from time to time. :evil:
Thanks for your appreciation. It is great to see that you narrowed your options down to two finalists. Hopefully your hard work will pay off with many good and restful nights.
While I can’t speak to whether which one of the two products you are considering would be the best “match” for you in all aspects of your value equation or in terms of comfort, firmness, and PPP … both mattresses are manufactured by two of our trusted members here who using high quality and durable materials, which means that I think very highly of them and that I believe that they compete well with the best in the industry.
You did not comment on the mattress thickness you are considering but based on the prices you mentioned I am guessing as you are looking at the 9" options. You are correct that SleepEZ has a higher level of customization and a modular design that allows not only for the side by side split for partners with different needs and preferences but also for customizing the type of latex (Blended Talalay and natural Dunlop) which will allow for further fine tuning of the overall feel and comfort, which may or may not be important to you.
Even though you are considering two products that are using good quality and durable materials the final decision may not be always easy to make as it usually involves a combination of objective, subjective and also intangible personal factors. I suggest that you have a good conversation with each of the manufacturers to rule out any factors you may have not taken into consideration in your research and see if a difference in price is justifiable for you based solely on your “personal value equation”. This along with the expertise and recommendations from the conversation with each of the manufacturers would most likely give you enough clues to chose between your two finalists and if all else is equal in what is important to you then the price wins.
Latex in general is the most durable of all the foam materials (polyfoam, memory foam, latex foam) and it would be reasonable to expect that ether of the mattresses you are considering it will last for many years. (In some cases even decades)
I’m looking forward to finding out what you end up deciding
I wanted to tell you about my experience with the OSO sleep mattress. The mattress was delivered via UPS right to my door. It did have a considerable smell, therefore I let it air out for a day. I know the smell was non-toxic as the materials used in the OSO mattress are safe. I loved that the mattress has a firm and plush option. My favorite thing about this mattress is that it sleeps cool. I’ve been trying to find a mattress that doesn’t heat up the way most do now. I recall some of the mattresses I’ve tried got so hot that I could not sleep and could take five or more minutes, call a family member in and have them feel the heat. I highly recommend this mattress to anyone who wants a mattress that sleeps cool and is firm. If you’re looking for a plush mattress, this is not it. I would describe the plush side as medium firm. I know that the feel of a mattress is subjective and depends on the person. However, for me, it was firm. I also lost alignment. I found that my rear area sunk quite a bit and it felt like my back was being arched backwards which made it painful. I weigh 150 lbs (not thin, but not very large), so I was surprised by the loss of alignment. In summary, I think this is a well made and very solid, firm mattress. If anyone has been looking for something that really does sleep cool, then this is it. I hope this review helps those looking for a mattress. I really wanted this to work for me!
I loved the comfort of the Tempurpedic Cloud Luxe Breeze mattress, but the chemicals made me very sick. I would like to find a memory foam or polyurethane foam mattress with similar specs, but it must be certified low voc. My alignment was perfect on the Cloud Luxe. Can you recommend anything?
Great to hear that your mattress has arrived and that it meets all your expectations, at least on the firm side of it… :lol:
Thanks for taking the time to share your initial feedback and I’m looking forward to any additional updates you might have once you’ve slept on your mattress for a while longer.
I see that you are planning ahead as you are now looking for yet another mattress.
I understand your concern, and you are correct in placing a high premium on safety particularly in the area of Memory Foam and to some extent polyfoam where there is much market confusion and there are so many products of questionable safety. Because we spend so much time in close proximity to our mattress, this can have a greater effect on our health and wellbeing than almost everything else we own. As you had a firsthand experience with Tempurpedic, in terms of safety I generally suggest that you check that any product that you are considering comes with some type of testing for VOCs and other harmful substances.
Post #3 here speaks directly to some of your concerns about Tempurpedic mattresses. There are also some very good links in that post regarding more detailed information about “chemical free” and “safe” materials in mattresses and also you may have stumbled over Post #10 here with several guidelines to take into account when looking for a memory foam product.
Attempting to find something that is exactly the same is often a frustrating and futile exercise especially if you are trying to do that on your own. There is more information in post #9 here about the different ways that one mattress can “match” or “approximate” another one. Every layer and component in a mattress (including the cover and any quilting materials) will affect the feel and performance of every other layer and component and the mattress “as a whole” so unless you are able to find another mattress that uses exactly the same type of materials, components, cover and quilting, layer thicknesses, layer firmnesses, and overall design (which would be fairly unlikely) then there really isn’t a reliable way to match one mattress to another one in terms of “comfort”, firmness, and PPP (Posture and alignment, Pressure relief, and your Personal preferences) based on the specifications of the mattresses (even assuming that you can find out all the specifications you would need for both mattresses you are comparing in the first place). This being said you may be able to get quite close to it by seeking the guidance from an experienced manufacturer or retailer, who is familiar with Tempurpedic and who would be the able to approximate a mattress feel based on all the specs and your personal needs and preferences you may provide, but keep in mind that this is not an exact science
Christeli, our Trusted Members here , are listing on their site some lines that will produce comforts that are similar to (comparable) to some of the Tempurpedic models. These aren’t meant to be duplicates or exact matches, but simply a comfort that most people would consider “in the range” of a particular Tempurpedic they might have tested. Their model Briela 13.5" is closely compared to Tempurpedic Cloud Luxe Breeze mattress.
Many of our trusted members carry good quality/value Memory Foam products that I would recommend for your consideration in your search, (all of which are using safe materials and may also have one or several safety certifications) You may wish to reach out to some of them and find out if they carry something that may be a close match.
As with all our Trusted Members here I have no doubt that they will not hesitate to help you find the best combo and thickness/softness they have available that works for you. As you have experienced, it usually takes a bit of trial and error and a bit of time to get things just right.
I would like to give the OSO more time. I do believe that it’s high quality and I love the fact that it sleeps cool. I do usually give a mattress time, so that it can soften and conform Unfortunately, if my spine isn’t aligned on a mattress, then my back cramps up very painfully. I had to place my feet on the mattress (knees up) to keep my rear area from sinking out of alignment on the OSO. That’s not something I can adjust to. If I were aligned and simply found it firm, then I would give it time to see if I would eventually adjust to it. So, it basically came down to the lack of alignment.
Thank you for the ideas you’ve provided. I mentioned the Tempurpedic because it was soft, yet allowed my spine to remain aligned. I have to say the Tempurpedic was the first mattress that maintained alignment and gave great pressure point relief at the same time. Unfortunately, the chemicals used caused severe dizzy spells and loss of equilibrium. Within weeks of removing the Tempurpedic, those symptoms were gone.
I would like to find something that can maintain spinal alignment, while giving some decent pressure relief. I love the bed in a box idea. If you think of any bed in a box type mattresses that provide dense, solid support please let me know. In the meantime, the search continues.
A few nights wouldn’t be nearly enough time to evaluate any new mattress. There will be a break in and an adjustment period for any new mattress or sleeping system as the mattress loses any of its “false firmness” and the cover stretches and loosens a little and your body gets used to a sleeping surface that is different from what it is used to (see post #3 here ). This would typically be a few weeks but it can be shorter or longer depending on the specifics of the person and the mattress.
I would definitely suggest that you take more time adjusting to the new mattress, and hopefully, as time moves on you’ll gradually lose more of your previous “learned alignment” and the mattress will also lose more of its “false firmness”.
I had to return the OSO mattress. It did soften a little, but my alignment never improved. I think it’s a very well made mattress and it slept very cool. I highly recommend it to people who like a cool mattress that’s on the firmer side.
I’ve been looking at the Brooklyn Bedding Signature Hybrid. I chatted with a BB specialist on-line, but they were unable to tell me the weight/density of the foams used in the mattress. I was told that it may be 3.5 lbs in density and that it was likely memory foam, not polyurethane foam. It was a bit like pulling teeth to attempt to get an answer that may or may not be accurate. Do you happen to know the specs of the Brooklyn Bedding Signature Hybrid? I was also wondering if you have any opinion or information you are able to share regarding the company?
I am sorry that OSO didn’t work out and that the search still continues for you.
BB uses a proprietary foam in their Signature Model. They call it Titan-Flex® (high-performance polyfoam/latex alternative) and other than the layer thickness they do not share on their website its technical specifications. They changed their design and materials at the end of last year and I am not privy to their most up to date specifications on the new hybrid Signature using pocket coils (FYI this is what I have in my records for their previous Signature/ BME: 2" TitanFlex 3-4 lb. / 2" TitanFlex 3-4 lb. / 6" 1.8 lb 36 ILD polyfoam). I am not sure who you chatted with, but it would be worth reaching out to them and calling them directly, most people that return here report good customer service.
We do not have any additional information other than what is listed on their website or the various postings in which they’ve been discussed on our Mattress Forum. Brooklyn Bedding has been in business since 1995 and is considered a leading e-commerce mattress company; you can see some of their histories on their website under the About Us tab on the top header.
I’m looking forward to hearing about your next choice.
I’m still looking for a mattress. I’m now looking at a mattress made locally. I would like to get our opinion on the specs. Here they are:
2 inches of 1.5 lb polyurethane foam (not the best, I know).
3 inches of 1.8 lb polyurethane foam.
Full coverage flexible net.
14.5 continuous coil
2 ounce textile fire pad.
Base foam of 1.5 lb polyurethane foam.
It’s a rather basic, plush innerspring mattress. I’ve yet to find anything online. I would love your opinion regarding this mattress.
It looks like you are looking to something similar to Serta Perfect Sleeper which uses continuous coil innerspring support systems. You are correct in your initial assessment of the mattress … 5" of Polyurethane foam with the top 2" of 1.5 density would be the “weakest link” in this mattress and would be more than the “inch or so” that I recommend in the uppermost layers of a mattress (see the shopping guidelines here).
Generally, the “weakest link” in a mattress in terms of durability is normally in the upper layers (the top 3" - 6" of the mattress) which are compressed more deeply while you sleep and not so much the deeper support layers. In addition to this, higher weight ranges sleepers will compress the top layers more deeply so the next layer down will also be more compressed “through” the upper layer and this second layer of 1.8 lbs (which also would be less than what I would recommend for higher weight ranges) can also play a bigger role in the durability and useful life fof the mattres than they would for lighter weights or with designs having a much thicker upper layer. There is more about the factors that can affect the durability and useful life of a mattress relative to different people (with different weight ranges and sleeping styles) in post #2 here and the posts it links to. For a “higher” weight range person the foam softening and breakdown would occur in a much shorter period of time than for a more “average” weight range.
Hi Jewels,
I have been sleeping on a water mattress for 30 years, and have found it to be unparalleled in comfort. There seem to be about 6 major manufacturers of the style I use which is a softside with tubes, and fits like a normal mattress. I got an American National Expressions model about 15 years ago to replace the original, and have had fewer problems with leaks after learning to refill the tubes in the bed without moving them. I am by no means endorsing any particular seller but here is a link to a seller who sells all the major brands: Note added by Phoenix R removed link here
The wonderful thing about this style of mattress is that you can choose your firmness. In addition to the 2 inches of polyfoam inside of the mattress, I recently added a 2" medium Latex topper(I used to use memory foam). This could just as easily be cut, and put inside to replace the polyfoam, but I like the extra exterior mattress protection, and the removable, washable cover. If you really want a cool sleep, you can unzip the top, and sleep directly on the water tubes - I have done that in hot southern summers. I have largely slept well for 30 years although after a coccyx injury, I found I had to fill the bed to extra firm, and use a latex topper rather than the memory foam toppers. I think the latex topper will prove more durable - I’ve replaced the memory foam toppers every few years.
Anyway by their very nature, water mattresses relieve pressure points while giving uniform support. Although the base support never breaks down, they do require some maintenance, refilling, and occassional tube replacement. However, you may have difficulty finding one to try out, and you need more than a boxspring to put it on. I obviously love mine, or I wouldn’t have put up with these drawbacks. Anyway, until you have tried one of these, I don’t think you can say you have tried them all… I wish you well in your search.
You certainly got your money’s worth and are quite fortunate to have had 30 years of use from your waterbed with only having to replace the top layer every few years, I agree that waterbeds have are quite a few drawbacks to “put up with” but for those who love the waterbed feel, the trade can be worthwhile. I am very glad to hear that the new latex layer feels comfortable and that it mitigated the pain resulting from your coccyx injury. I hope you’ll to get a few more good years out of it.
Note: I removed the link you placed in this your post as this appeared in several other posts and it is against the rules of the forum here as borderline promotional content. I also removed the duplicate content from the TMASC expert area in Post # 3 here and kept your helpful suggestion to Phillip66. Thanks!
Hi Phoenix.
My present water mattress is my second. The first got many holes in the tubes after about 15 years. My second is very similar, but I think was made by a different manufacturer. I began using a topper on my new bed with the idea of protecting it from cats, and found it very comfortable as well, so have continued to repurchase memory foam toppers every few years. I believe my present latex topper will prove to be indefinitely durable. Its appeal is enhanced by its washable cover.
My new mattress has had two tubes which have leaked, and after spending about two hours refilling it, and having to get the fill just right, I thought about getting a new mattress, which led me to your mattress forum. I had already ordered my latex topper, and was pleased to find my chosen vendor is one of your approved sellers. If I got a latex mattress, I think I may order it from them with my
membership discount. Thank you for creating and maintaining this site.
I apologize for including the link - I was a bad new member who did not read the rules, and suspected that may not be an approved action. Most forums disallow such things. But in looking for water mattresses online, I was surprised to find fairly few sources for them - I needed replacement tubes which led me to the waterbed doctor, but there are others. I am not recommending any particular vendor.
My water mattress is not for everyone. If I moved a lot, I think I would get a latex mattress, and I seriously thought about it, but after getting my latex topper, and refilling my present mattress, I have returned to restful sleep, so for now I will probably keep my water mattress. But my research has led me to believe that a latex mattress would be my next choice. I didn’t know about them 30 years ago. I have found this site to be one of the best sources of information on mattresses. Kudos.
Thank you for your kind words.! I am glad you are finding our site instructive and that it helped you in confirming the quality of your latex topper purchase. and that you and the cats are sleeping better.
About the link … you just brought a big smile on my face. I guessed as much and there’s no harm done… I always err on the side of caution with these things in an attempt to keep out and not encourage “add” or marketing intruders. (They are such shapeshifters too)
Your waterbed history is very educative and I appreciate you taking the time to share it with us, especially for those who are looking at any waterbeds Pros and Cons. I agree that waterbeds “are not for everyone” and also “age” is a factor as we become less tolerant to “out of alignment” sleeping positions that used to be “OK”, our body proportions change (we become heavier in certain parts of our body which leads to a different sleeping profile, or our main sleeping positions can sometimes change. For those interested in “diving” a little deeper in the subject there’s more about the waterbed “theory” in this article here but of course, the most relevant factor is the real-life experience and extensive testing of each sleeper.
My wife and I have a queen size mattress made in 2004 that we absolutely love and want to get something similar but in king size.
Attached is a photo of the tag.
It is an extra firm mattress that seems to be made of 100% urethane foam. It has quilting on top and it is still going strong after 13+ years.
I’ve been scouring the internet for anything similar and have come up empty. Unfortunately it looks like Dream Touch Mattress Co. Inc. is out of business now.
This looks like a pretty simple build. The quilt is an older style and makes me think the components are basic. The quilted cover is at most 3/8" thick, foam or fiber it is about the same at this thickness. If the mattress is firm you should be looking for an 8" 1.8 36 ILD foam core with a thin quilted cover. I have made this type of mattress in the past and they last for years with no trouble. If you would like something a little softer just add 2" of a 19 + or - ILD foam topper to be a little nicer on your hips and shoulders. I Hope this has helped.
