N4 core and 19 IDL Comfort layer

[phoenix]

Hi Madam Queen,

Visited local dealer found on Mattress Underground, (although told he was not a member when I asked for the discount). Very nice and helpful though.

There are hundreds of retailers and manufacturers mentioned in the dozens of local lists throughout the forum that aren’t members of the site but that would be better options or possibilities for a local purchase. The ones that are members of the site and provide a discount or bonus to the forum members here are listed here.

Owner recommended N3, saying that most everyone chose it and loved it—and I purchased that one. He also had on the floor an idl 19 topper with non-zippered cover. (The topper felt really comfortable to me when it was on the top of an innerspring.) He recommended purchasing only the N3 core, and waiting to see if I needed a topper. He said there was no use spending the money for a topper if not needed. Sounded practical to me. He did not recommend or sell latex cores with comfort layer/layers in one zippered mattress cover. Purchased the N3. It felt ok when I first got it, although not cushy. But after a few hours, my back was killing me. Tried it for more than two weeks.

I would also agree with the advice they gave you about waiting to buy a topper until it was clear that you needed it.

The new mattress feels springy and fairly soft to the touch. I have had it for three nights, and I cannot complete the night on it because of the pressure on my hip, thigh and arm when I lie on my side, which is a apparent when I first lie down. My arm and hand go dead. Even my La noodle pillow doesn’t feel comfortable under my head on this mattress. I feel like I need a really soft, thick cloud-like topper on it, but I am afraid that it would interfere with back support. I even put four La noodle pillows on the mattress for comfort layer, and it did give me some relief. The pillows are thicker than a La noodle topper would be. You can imagine how awkward that was trying to sleep on. I finally got on two different sofas the rest of night. I felt l as if I had been beaten with a rubber hose this morning. If you think the comfort layer I have would best be removed and replaced with a different comfort layer/layers, I can use the 19 idl on an innerspring mattress I have in the guest room that is too firm. Hope you can work with this information to try to help me. Thank you very much.

Just to be clear … am I correct in assuming that your current mattress has a 6" core of N4 Talalay with 3" of 19 ILD Talalay on top of it and this is all inside a wool quilted zip cover?

Post #2 here has some suggestions about a mattress that is too firm when you first purchase it that may be helpful but if you did some careful testing on your mattress and it provided good pressure relief when you tested it then it may be a matter of the mattress needing to break in a little or for you to adjust to a new sleeping surface. If none of the suggestions there are helpful and the mattress is still too firm for you after a couple of weeks then outside of changing your core back to an N3 or using a softer ILD for your top layer (which I wouldn’t suggest with your body type because of the risk of alignment issues) then your best option may be adding an additional softer topper.

I would wait for at least two weeks if it’s at all possible so that it’s clear that your experience isn’t just the result of the mattress needing to break in a little or for you to adjust to a new mattress (although if it’s too uncomfortable you may need to make some changes before that).

I can’t feel what you feel and there are too many unknowns, variables, and personal preferences involved to make a specific topper suggestion based on specs (either yours or a mattress) or “theory at a distance” … if you believe that you still need some additional softness and pressure relief after a couple of weeks (or as long as possible) then post #2 here and the topper guidelines it links to (along with more detailed conversations with a knowledgeable manufacturer or retailer) can help you use your sleeping experience as a guideline for the type, thickness, and firmness of a topper that may be a good match for you in combination with your mattress.

Phoenix