Hi Brown Dog,
Just let them know you are a member of the forum and as long as there isnât a special sale that is more than the MUG discount then they will send you a cheque for the discount.
Phoenix
Well his efforts might have been more successful if not for the valuable information you have provided on this forum. He actually used the âyouâre saving 50% off the 3600 regular priceâ on me, but I knew better thanks to your posts about mattress industry pricing and fake sales.
Anyway as an update I placed an order with sleep ez today for a natural 10000 s/m/f split layer setup and I feel very good about my purchase. Came to 1840 after the forum discount (which comes in the form of a check and is not deducted from your total which is finewith me, more rewards points lol) for the mattress and foundation in queen with the free pillows. I am very excited to get the bed. Iâve started to realize that the reason that Iâve been having so much trouble getting out of bed in the morning is because Iâm constantly waking up to change positions on my current sterns and foster inner spring
I am about to order this bed from west elm: west elm modern bed It has a lot of room for storage underneath which is helpful since my bedroom is relatively small. I stil need to pick out a mattress pad as well
I really appreciate all the help you and the other members have provided as it basically saved me from making an ill informed purchase.
[quote=âBrown Dogâ post=41722]JeffBlue, I am basically in the same exact situation as you without the good price offer! I was quoted at $2999 for the Nature, but in King Size. Delivery was quoted at $99 - so approx $3100 total for just the mattress. I think I might have seen you in the parking lot leaving!
Almost pulled the trigger on Sleep EZ tonight, but just wanted to check with my wife about layers. So difficult without laying on, but using the Bliss Nature as an example and knowing that an exchange is $30, figuring I will go with the Sleep EZ mattress. How do members get the 5% discount from Sleep EZ? What are you going to do?
So glad to find this incredibly helpful information from Phoenix on this amazing site!
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Lol Were you at sleepwrks ny in Massapequa? I would definitely go with the sleep ez if I were you (as mentioned above I just pulled the trigger on a sleep ez as well) Itâs such a great value and the customer service so far is outstanding. Give Shawn a call if you have any questions. The PLB is very nice but itâs not flexible, the return policy (at this store at least) is not satisfactory, and the the price/value just isnât even close to the sleep ez.
Hi Jeffblue,
Congratulations on your new mattress 
As you know I think you made a great choice and there is great flexibility built in to the layering combinations and/or exchange option as well if you need to do any fine tuning.
I hope you have the chance to share your feedback when you receive it.
Post #89 here has information about the pros and cons of the different types of mattress protectors that may be helpful.
Phoenix
So funny - small world! Yes same location on Sunday. Wasnât going to mention retailer, but oh well- they should realize we are in a different era of communication and business. I spoke to Jody at Sleep EZ and she was courteous and helpful, but everyone on this forum seems to mention Shawn as the expert. Planning on ordering today - almost same as you, but trying to decide on soft vs. medium for the top layer. My wife wants a firmer mattress than our horrible Mirralux, so it would be great to get it right the first time. Sleep EZ recommended your configuration for our weight/height and being primarily side sleepers, but Iâm unsure about how soft is SOFT? If we order S-M-F I guess we can swap the medium and soft layers for a little more give (Input? Phoenix?) and keep the Firm at the bottom. My wife seems to think Med-Med_Firm for her, but âŚIDK. Also, did you get Labor Day price + MU 5% discount check?
Iâll check back before I call later!
Arizona isnât open yet for business! Ha Ha. I still canât believe out of the whole internet I ended up leading a parallel existence with a MU Blogging stranger! Any feedback appreciated and good luck with the purchase!
Hi Brown Dog,
This is very subjective and also depends on body type, sleeping style, and individual sensitivities so each person can have a very different idea of what âsoftâ feels like to them. There are also different âtypesâ of softness and firmness that different people are more or less sensitive to (see post #15 here). There are also no consistent firmness ratings in the industry between different manufacturers so in the end soft is whatever feels soft for any particular person regardless of how it feels for anyone else
When you canât test a mattress in person then the best approach for your initial configuration or âstarting pointâ is a more detailed conversation with SleepEZ who can help âtalk you throughâ your options and will know more about âmatchingâ the options they have to different people based on âaveragesâ than anyone else (see mattress firmness/comfort levels in post #2 here).
Phoenix
Thanks! iâm about to delve into that page and see what is the best for my needs. I will definitely be posting my review/experience along the way.
[quote=âBrown Dogâ post=41745]So funny - small world! Yes same location on Sunday. Wasnât going to mention retailer, but oh well- they should realize we are in a different era of communication and business. I spoke to Jody at Sleep EZ and she was courteous and helpful, but everyone on this forum seems to mention Shawn as the expert. Planning on ordering today - almost same as you, but trying to decide on soft vs. medium for the top layer. My wife wants a firmer mattress than our horrible Mirralux, so it would be great to get it right the first time. Sleep EZ recommended your configuration for our weight/height and being primarily side sleepers, but Iâm unsure about how soft is SOFT? If we order S-M-F I guess we can swap the medium and soft layers for a little more give (Input? Phoenix?) and keep the Firm at the bottom. My wife seems to think Med-Med_Firm for her, but âŚIDK. Also, did you get Labor Day price + MU 5% discount check?
Iâll check back before I call later!
Arizona isnât open yet for business! Ha Ha. I still canât believe out of the whole internet I ended up leading a parallel existence with a MU Blogging stranger! Any feedback appreciated and good luck with the purchase!
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haha wow small world. I actually first tried to call and cancel my order that morning. Interesting how they were trying to cut me a deal just to not lose the sale while still being happy to charge you top dollar for the same mattress. the sales staff there was very polite and courteous, and i would have been happy to purchase a bed there if the price/value was right. Ultimately though, no refund policy is a deal breaker for me. Then realizing the flexibility i could have with the sleep EZ, it was a done deal, especially considering that the bed is much less expensive with sleep ez for the same type of materials as a PLB. Same materials, better return policy/exchange policy, flexibility, better price = done deal for me. at the end of the day if i can pay ~$1500 for 10" of blended talalay latex, why should i pay $3,000?
I do like a firm bed as well and iâm slightly concerned about the firmness but now that i have more of an understanding about how the layering works, i think that if for some reason i am not satisfied with the S/M/F i would likely be content with either the M/S/F or the S/F/M layout. However, Shawn insists that due to my relatively light bodyweight 5â4" 160lb the Soft top layer with the medium support below it should still be supportive enough even for stomach sleeping. However, iâve started to realize i really do prefer sleeping on my side, its just that i canât comfortably/consistently do so on my current bed. My girlfriend will definitely like the S/M/F so iâm glad iâm getting the split since i will probably play around with my setup and still keep her setup the same.
Yes i got the 5% labor day discount included in the price which is automatically deducted on the site before you even pay. The additional 5/% MU discount is sent via check.
Let us know what you end up doing. Also, regarding your choice between MMF and SMF, keep in mind if you do get all split layers (as you probably realized you should by now) if you really want to experiment, you could take your wifeâs medium layer (although she might not be happy about that) and see how it feels to have two mediums over a firm before even needing to have a swap sent to you.
HELLO, TWO YEARS AGO I PURCHASED A DREAMFOAM ULTIMATE DREAMS, LEVEL 6, MATTRESS THROUGH AMAZON. AS MUCH AS I WANTED TO, I HONESTLY NEVER LOVED IT, FOR SEVERAL REASONS. I FOUND IT TO SLEEP âHOT.â WHEN I SLEEP ON MY SIDE, IT CAUSES HIP PAIN. WHEN I SPEEP ON MY BACK, I OFTEN WAKE UP WITH A MILD BACK ACHE. I AM ALSO GOING THRU MENOPAUSE (HOT FLASHES AND NIGHT SWEATS) AND HAVENâT HAD A REALLY GOOD SLEEP IN A LONG TIME. I BOUGHT AN OUTLAST TOPPER WHICH HELPED SOMEWHAT BUT AFTER A YEAR AND A HALF IT BECAME LESS AND LESS EFFECTIVE. SO, NOW I AM LOOKING FOR A NEW LATEX BED. THE 2 BEDS I AM CONSIDERING ARE THE PURE LATEX BLISS NATURE MODEL AND THE SAMâS CLUB ORGANIC AMERICAN SLEEP MATTRESS. THE REASON I AM DRAWN TO THE SAMâS CLUB BED IS BECAUSE OF THE RETURN POLICY, AND THAT ITâS DUNLOP LATEX. (MY CHILDHOOD BED WAS A WONDERFUL DUNLOP LATEX FOAM BED.) ON THE OTHER HAND, THERE IS A LOCAL STORE THAT IS SELLING THE NATURE MODEL OF PLB AT A VERY GOOD PRICE AND I HAVE LAID ON IT AND FOUND IT COMFORTABLE. HOWEVER, HOW MUCH CAN ONE REALLY TELL IN 15 OR 20 MINUTES IN A STORE ENVIRONMENT? THIS STORE ALSO HAD 2 OTHER PLB MODELS, BOTH OF WHICH I FOUND TOO SOFT. I AM A LITTLE SCARED TO BUY THE PURE LATEX BLISS BED BECAUSE IF I DONâT LIKE IT, THE EXCHANGE FEE IS $150 AND I WOULD BE STUCK HAVING TO BUY A COIL MATTRESS. I HAVE ALSO CONSIDERED BUYING A SOFT SIDED WATERBED. I AM 55 YEARS OLD, BUILT PROPORTIONATELY, AND WEIGH APPROX 135. PLEASE GIVE ME YOUR THOUGHTS AND OPINION. I AM LONGING FOR A GREAT NIGHTâS SLEEP.
Hi rcseisland,
Just as a general comment ⌠when you are posting on a forum then using all capitals is considered to be the equivalent of âshoutingâ when you are using your voice and itâs easier to read if you donât use all capitals.
Iâm sorry to hear that your mattress didnât turn out to be the best match for you and that you are sleeping too hot but there may be several things you can do to resolve your issues without having to purchase a whole new mattress.
I would also make sure that youâve read the mattress shopping tutorial here which has all the basic information, steps, and guidelines that you will need to make the best possible choice.
The first issue you are having is sleeping temperature and there is some information in post #2 here and the post it links to that may help you track down the most likely reasons why or if there is anything you can do that may be helpful. In many cases ⌠changing your mattress protector or the type of sheets you use can make a significant difference in sleeping temperature.
The question of the firmness of your mattress is a little more difficult because the best option would depend on whether your mattress is too soft or too firm for you. Based on your comments I would guess that it may be too firm and some of the suggestions in post #2 here may be helpful but only you can really know this based on your sleeping experience.
The specs of the Nature are listed here and as you can see the top two layers are 2" of 21 ILD Talalay and then 2" of 28 ILD Talalay which are a little softer than the 3" of 28 ILD Talalay that is in your mattress (along with the softer polyfoam quilting layer). If the Nature is a good match for you in terms of PPP then it may be worth considering a latex topper that can add some additional softness and pressure relief to your mattress. Post #2 here and the topper guidelines it links to has more about choosing a topper that may be helpful.
If your mattress is too soft then a topper wouldnât be nearly as helpful because adding a topper isnât a particularly effective way to firm up a mattress that is too soft (see post #4 here).
If you spend 15 or 20 minutes carefully testing a mattress in a store using the testing guidelines in the tutorial post then the odds are high that most people would make a choice that was in the range that was suitable for them and was âclose enoughâ to their ideal that only minor fine tuning would be necessary (see post #4 here).
Having said that ⌠if you are not confident that your testing will be âclose enoughâ to your actual sleeping experience then the return or exchange policies that are available to you after a purchase would also become a much more important part of the âvalueâ of a mattress purchase and your own personal value equation and of course I would trust your âbest judgementâ about the importance of a return and/or exchange policy.
Both of these use high quality materials and neither one has any weak links in their design in terms of durability but once again ⌠your own testing or experience will be the most reliable way to know whether either one is a good match for you in terms of PPP and if you arenât confident about this then I would pay significant attention to the options you have available after a purchase. There is also more about the differences between the âfeelâ of Talalay and Dunlop in post #7 here but this would be a preference choice much more than a âbetter/worseâ choice. There is also more about the most important parts of the âvalueâ of a mattress purchase in post #13 here that can also help you make more meaningful comparisons between mattresses.
There is more about buying a mattress from big box stores like Costco or Sams Club in post #4 here. While they generally arenât the best quality/value choices for most people and they are not particularly good at providing good guidance about their mattresses ⌠they do have a good return policy so if you roll the dice with one of their mattresses and it doesnât work out for you then at least you have the benefit of being able to return it and starting all over again. There is also more about the American Dream Organic (which is the Innomax White Night) in post #2 here and post #4 here and it would be one of the better quality/value options at Sams Club.
Having said that ⌠the tutorial post also includes a link to a list of the members here that make or sell latex mattresses that include different types of latex (including Dunlop), and have a wide range of different designs, features, options, and price ranges. Many of these are component mattresses that allow you to rearrange or exchange layers to change the comfort/pressure relief or support/alignment of the mattress after a purchase without having to return it and some of them also have a great return policy as well if the âworst caseâ happens and none of the options that are available turn out to be suitable for you. For most people these would be in a better value range than an âall or nothingâ choice such as the American Dream latex mattress but of course once you are down to finalists that are all between âgood and goodâ and there are no clear winners between them then the final choice that is best for you will depend on âbest judgementâ and on all the objective, subjective, and intangible criteria that are most important to you.
Phoenix
Hi Phoenix, Sorry bout that; I didnât mean to shout 
. Thank you for your detailed reply. I have read, printed and reread your email and all the links. So, yesterday, I spent over 2 hours at the mattress store. I brought 2 pillows and a blanket and spent quite a while on the PLB Nature. I also spent about 30 minutes on a very soft PLB model called Worldâs Best Bed, which felt good on my side but bad on my back. I tried a few Serta iComfortâs (with very cooling memory foam) as well. Iâm still not 100% confident that the Nature is going to work and I will go back in the next few days and spend some more time before a final decision is made. I did find the Nature more comfortable using a $100 PLB latex pillow than my own latex pillow. I think it was a little softer and higher. Part of the problem is that my shoulder and hip was a little sore to begin with. The salesman was very nice and said that I was in alignment but Iâm not sure. I also have a Dreamfoam Ultimate Dreams twin (level eight) in my guest room and I slept on it last night. It is better than the 6 but still not perfect, and very hot.
I checked out the website âSleep Like a Bearâ as a previous poster said that the 1" talalay gl with celcion did the trick keeping her cool, so I am considering that. Question: If I put that on my Dreamfoam Ultimate Dreams level 6, do you think it would relief my hip pain and make my current bed more a fit? I donât know what their return/exchange policy is. Or, if I get the Nature or the Samâs Club version of White Night and they are too hard/hot, would the one inch celcion topper be enough or would 2" be better? Another question (if you know): do you feel that the White Night would be firmer than the Nature based on the specs, or less firm. I can tell you that the Ultimate Dreams 6 that I have is definitely firmer than the Pure Latex Bliss Nature (unless, I was mistakenly sent something firmer than the 6.) By the way, the PLB Nature has a great price of $1800, King, including box spring with innards by Leggart and Platt. (My current bed is Queen.)
Any opinions/feedback is MUCH appreciated as I am truly sleep deprived and not thinking clearly!
Hi rceisland,
I actually meant to write âsofterâ rather than âfirmerâ (21 ILD is softer than 28 ILD) so your experience makes sense to me and Iâve edited my reply so that is doesnât confuse someone else that reads it (although softness and firmness can be very subjective and a mattress that âshouldâ feel softer âin theoryâ doesnât always feel that way for some people).
I would be very careful with this because itâs a very soft mattress and while it may feel good in a showroom ⌠for side sleeping especially ⌠it would be much more risky in terms of alignment and itâs not really possible to âfixâ a mattress that is too soft without removing and replacing the comfort layers.
I would also be a little cautious with âtrustingâ this because while gel memory foams can feel cooler initially ⌠they donât always stay that way once temperatures equalize over the course of the night (see post #2 here).
Itâs not unusual at all that shoulder pressure issues or other upper body issues can be helped with a more suitable pillow and your hip pressure issues could also be helped with a softer/thicker comfort layer.
As you probably read in the previous post I linked ⌠softer mattresses will tend to sleep warmer than a mattress that uses the same materials in a firmer version because you will sink into the foam more deeply so the foam will be more insulating.
Talalay GL has a phase change gel in the latex which can make a slight difference in sleeping temperature but not a lot (see post #2 here). The only way to know whether a slight difference would be âenoughâ would be based on your actual sleeping experience. It would typically make less difference than your mattress protector and your sheets but the Talalay GL would also be closer to your body which can make more difference than if it was under a layer of quilting foam.
It would depend on the firmness of the Talalay GL but if it was softer (either 15 or 21 ILD) then it would make some difference in softness. While itâs not possible to know or quantify how much difference it would make for any individual person or whether the difference would be âenoughâ for you or not (only you can feel what you feel on a mattress) ⌠in the topper guidelines I linked earlier (in post #8 here) I describe the effect of a 1" topper as being a âtouch to a little bit of differenceâ but itâs not really possible to accurately describe a subjective experience which can be different for different people. Describing softness is like describing taste ⌠you can talk about it in general terms but only personal experience can really tell you what itâs like in âreal lifeâ.
Again ⌠I would use your actual sleeping experience along with the topper guidelines I linked to decide on the thickness/softness of a topper that would have the best chance of success. âTheoryâ based on specs alone (either yours or a mattress or topper) isnât the most effective way to choose a topper.
Different people would probably describe the comparison differently (depending on their body type, sleeping positions, and individual sensitivity) and I donât have any personal experience on the White Night and havenât tested them side by side (which is the most reliable way to know how they would compare for a particular person) but if I had to guess I would say the White Night would feel firmer for most people.
I would avoid an actual box spring with a latex mattress (if you mean a box spring that has springs inside that flex) and they will generally do better with a rigid non flexing support surface with an evenly supportive surface such as a foundation or platform bed with narrow gaps so the latex doesnât sink into the gaps over time. You can read more about the type of support systems that are generally best for different types of mattresses in the foundation post here. I would avoid the PLB foundations that come with their mattresses because they are not good quality or well designed.
Phoenix
Dear Phoenix,
Iâve decided to jump on the latex mattress bandwagon B) Yesterday I went to Savvy Mattress in Lynnwood, WA. They had a mattress marketed as latex, organic. Price with tax and delivery is $985. Guess the price makes me a little skeptical. Also, Iâve tried to do some research on the mattress and canât seem to find anything that I can be sure is about this mattress which adds to my skepticism. I did notice itâs a 2012 model. It appears the company is Restwell. The name of the mattress (at this store) is Green Natural, and there was a web site listed on the sales material: www.novosleep.com. I have to be honest and say that I didnât ask too many of the pertinent questions because I was planning to go home and research it and wasnât planning to go latex until yesterday so wasnât educated enough to ask the right questions. If I go back Iâm noq armed with a lot more questions but was also wondering if you can shed any light on this mattress. Alternatively, I am also considering the LatexBliss, probably the Nature. The Pamper seemed a bit too firm. I tested and will likely buy (if I purchase the PLB) from 6 Day Mattress in Redmond.
I am a pure back sleeper, 124 lbs. Thanks for your help!
Carol
Hi cado212,
I would be very cautious here because you are probably looking at a mattress that was purchased as part of a liquidation lot for pennies on the dollar and the risk would be very high that you are buying a used mattress that was either a comfort return or a warranty return.
Restwell is a Spring Air and Comfort Solutions (King Koil) licensee in Vancouver that also makes their own line of mattresses but like any mattress, the name of the manufacturer isnât nearly as important as knowing the specifics of all the layers and materials inside a mattress so you can identify any weak links and make more meaningful comparisons to other mattresses (see this article). I wouldnât purchase any mattress without knowing this information. If the retailer canât tell you then you may be able to find out the information you need from Restwell. I would also be very cautious about purchasing a liquidated and probably used mattress. There is more about buying a mattress from a liquidator here and here and here and more about some things you can check for if you are considering buying a used mattress in post #2 here as well.
While I donât know the specifics of what is inside the mattress you are looking at ⌠you could check the law tag to at least find out the type of materials it includes (listed by weight percentage rather than thickness percentage) to see what percentage was latex. Itâs very possible that is contains âsomeâ latex and then other types of materials as well. I would very much doubt that it could legitimately be called âorganicâ.
I would treat this or any mattress purchase where you may be buying a used mattress with no warranty and where you donât know the type and quality of the materials inside it as a very high risk and âbuyer bewareâ purchase.
Just in case you havenât seen it yet ⌠the better options and possibilities in and around the Seattle region (subject to the guidelines here) are listed in post #2 here.
Phoenix
Thank you, Phoenix! The mattress in question is supposed to be new and does come with a 20-year warranty. I am going to ask the salesperson for the specs on the mattress, and weâll see what her reply is. That being said, Iâm still feeling very wary and after already being burned on one mattress (just sold it today on CL! Yay!) Iâm treading very carefully.
Iâve been reading more of your articles and forum information today and now am leaning towards purchasing from Sleep EZ. Of course itâs a little disconcerting purchasing a mattress I havenât test driven, but they have a good return policy, they are on your recommended list, and I like what other members have been saying. The only issue is trying to decide which one is the right one for me, but Iâm guessing their CS people will be able to assist with that.
Oh, and I did review the list of companies local in the Seattle area. One is right across from Overlake Med Ctr, where I work, and there are several not far from me.
Thank you again!
Carol
Hi cado2012,
With a manufacturing date of 2012 ⌠itâs not likely that the mattress is either new or that it has a manufacturerâs warranty (see their page here which says âProducts do not come with warrantiesâ. I would also keep in mind that a warranty only covers defects in a mattress and not the gradual (or rapid) loss of comfort or support that is the most common reason you would need to replace a mattress. The length of a warranty is never as important as knowing the type and quality of the materials in a mattress and that it has little to do with the quality or useful life of a mattress (see post #174 here). You could always check with Restwell to see if they are an authorized dealer and if they were then they would almost certainly have a number of current Restwell mattresses on their showroom floor.
As you probably know from your reading here ⌠Sleep EZ would be a great quality/value choice and a component latex mattress has the advantage of having many options to customize your mattress both before and after a purchase either by rearranging layers or exchanging a layer.
When you canât test a mattress in person then the best way to choose which mattress would likely be best for you would be a more detailed conversation on the phone where they can help âtalk you throughâ the options they have available that would have the best chance of success based on the averages of other customers that are similar to you (see mattress firmness/comfort levels in post #2 here). Any local testing you have done on different latex mattresses that use either Dunlop or Talalay in different firmness levels so you have some sense of what latex feels like in general and which type of latex you tend to prefer would also be useful.
Phoenix
Phoenix,
As always, your help and guidance is immensely appreciated.
I wound up buying the PLB Nature after 3 sales people, and a friend agreed that my spine appeared to be in alignment. To date, I have slept on the bed for 28 days and initially I found it quite comfortable. In fact, I still do find it comfortable except over the last week my sleeping has caused pretty bad upper middle back pain. I have never felt pain in the area before. The pain first started when I slept on my back, with a pillow under my knees, and either no pillow under my head or an old pancake flat one. Now, I am noticing it when I sleep on my side. I have a thick latex pillow and a new PLB latex pillow which Iâve been alternating on my side. Of note, I did not get the same foundation that was on display with the Nature in the store. Instead, they delivered a PLB covered wooden slat foundation which, to me, appears to be of inferior quality, with the slats at least 5 inches apart. Do you think this could be contributing to my painful upper/mid back? I didnât say anything upon delivery because my plan was to upgrade to an adjustable bed in a couple of months.
Iâm open to any corrective action: new pillow? topper? foundation? or exchange? Thank you for your suggestions.
P.S. I wish there was a such thing as a mattress guru, that one could hire and take with to find the perfect bed. A new field! LOL!
Hi rcseisland,
It would certainly be possible yes. The PLB foundation is not particularly good quality and it could be allowing the mattress to sink into the wider gaps. You can see some comments about their foundation in post #44 here and the posts it links to. You could test the effect of the foundation by either sleeping with your mattress on the floor or by putting a sheet of plywood over the foundation to see if it makes a difference in your experience. If this helps then an adjustable bed would also have a solid non flexing support surface and it would provide the same support as having your mattress on the floor or with a sheet of plywood underneath it.
The Nature has 2" of 21 ILD latex over 2" of 28 ILD latex over a firmer support core which is somewhat similar to the Dreamfoam mattress you tried earlier which had 1.5" of softer quilting foam over a 3" layer of 28 ILD latex and since that was too firm for you and given your lighter weight itâs also possible that the Nature may be a little on the firm side for you as well and if thatâs the case then some of the suggestions in post #2 here may be helpful.
There is also more information in post #2 here about the more common symptoms that people may experience on a mattress and some of the possible reasons behind them that may also help you to clarify the types of changes that may help with the âsymptomsâ you are experiencing.
While there is no way for me to know with any certainty because I canât feel what you feel on a mattress ⌠if none of these suggestions are helpful and if I had to guess about the types of changes that may make a difference I would say that you may do better with some additional thickness/softness in your comfort layers.
Phoenix
Thanks for your quick reply. I will check out the referenced posts when I get home from work. I will look into getting a piece of plywood to fit my king sized bed. I suppose Home Depot or Lowes would be the place to go? I found it curious that you think the PLB Nature may be too firm. Although it felt firm for the first couple of nights, it feels soft to me now. I live in S. Fla; perhaps the warmer weather has a softening effect on the foam? If I were to get a topper, do you know of any online sellers with a return policy? I donât mind spending the money if my back issues will be solved, but want the ability to return or at least exchange if it doesnât work out. Iâm hoping that the foundation modification solves everything.
Hi rcseisland,
They both sell plywood yes. I would use indoor plywood that is at least 1/2" thick, untreated, and sanded on at least one side. It may be worthwhile testing your mattress on the floor before buying the plywood to confirm that the foundation is the issue.
Itâs certainly possible that your mattress is too soft for you and that could also account for your symptoms so I would trust your own perceptions and personal experience and âbest judgementâ over my guesswork.
Latex isnât temperature sensitive like memory foam so the weather wouldnât be affecting the firmness of the latex.
Hopefully the firmer support from the plywood will solve the issue but if you do decide to try a topper then post #2 here and the topper guidelines it links to includes a link to the better topper sources Iâm aware of and a link to the topper sources Iâm aware of that have a return or exchange policy as well.
Phoenix