Hi Magialisk,
What mattress did you finally decide on?
What did you decide on SAH?
I just kept the Novosbed soft and put it in a guest room. Itâs definitely not comparable to the Tempur Cloud Supreme, and the soft kit did nothing (for me) to make it better or feel more like it. I gave away the foam topper vs. tossing it out. BUT, I kept and like the zipper deal they include in the soft kit, and I decided if I ever needed to sleep on this mattress, Iâd buy a 2 inch memory foam topper and use the zipper to secure it and it could help. I think the mattress and company are quality, just nothing like the specs and feel of the Cloud Supreme.
Did you get more adjusted to it??
Hi SAH,
Thanks for the update 
Since the feel of a mattress is so subjective itâs not surprising that two mattresses that have different types of memory foam have a different feel ⌠even if they are a similar firmness level. As you mentioned ⌠the comfort+ topper also wouldnât feel like a Tempurpedic because itâs made from polyfoam which is a more resilient material than any memory foam although there are some people that like a more resilient material better than memory foam.
Thatâs a good idea. If the memory foam topper you add has similar properties to the Tempurpedic memory foam in the top layer of the Cloud Supreme then it may âfeelâ more like it as well.
Phoenix
[quote=âSAHâ post=65775]I just kept the Novosbed soft and put it in a guest room. Itâs definitely not comparable to the Tempur Cloud Supreme, and the soft kit did nothing (for me) to make it better or feel more like it. I gave away the foam topper vs. tossing it out. BUT, I kept and like the zipper deal they include in the soft kit, and I decided if I ever needed to sleep on this mattress, Iâd buy a 2 inch memory foam topper and use the zipper to secure it and it could help. I think the mattress and company are quality, just nothing like the specs and feel of the Cloud Supreme.
Did you get more adjusted to it??[/quote]
Thanks for the update SAH. Iâve had so much trouble finding a mattress that I feel embarrassed about trying several and having to return them. 
But good sleep is important to me so I need to find something that works for me and doesnât cause pain.
I kept trying the Novosbed and I got tired of waking up every night with shoulder pain and having constant shoulder pain. I tried the soft topper again and got lower back pain again. So I did return it toward then end of my trial period. The Novosbed customer service was excellent. They were very nice and helpful throughout the process.
I slept in the guest room on my old TempurCloud for a while and got rid of the shoulder pain. I slept like a log on that bed, but I missed sleeping with my husband in the master bedroom so I finally pulled the trigger on an Alexander Signature soft from Nest Bedding. Iâm still in the trial period and thankfully am not getting that horrible shoulder pain again. The Alex Signature feels much softer than the Novosbed soft.
Thanks for circling back, Abby. I really hope the Alexander SIgnature Soft will work out for you!!! And I agree â good sleep is so important!!!
[quote=âPhoenixâ post=61728]Hi Loiroi,
Thanks for letting us know.
I hope that at some point someone will be more successful than you were in finding out the specifics of the materials inside it but of course itâs also possible that they are just choosing not to disclose this information as well.
Phoenix[/quote]
Hello everyone,
I have found two mattress review websites that have listed the specifics of the Voila mattress in different firmness levels.
This is for the âHybrid Plushâ model:
The 12âł Plush Voila is composed of the following layers:
Stretch polyester cover â with breathable mesh side fabric
Flame resistant coverâ 1633 / 1632 CFR flame resistant cover
2.5âł 3.0lb gel Visco foam edge to edge
.75âł 2.5lb support foam edge to edge
.75âł 2.5lb side wall edge foam, inside of this cavity is .75âł latex
fiber insulator pad
6.25âł five zone pocketed coils with edge support
6.25âł 2.5lb edge support foam with ventilator holes for airflow
fiber insulator pad
.75âł medium base foam
1âł firm base foam
Base Cover
What is everyoneâs thoughts on these materials/specifications?
Hi oznefu,
This post is basically a repost of one you made in another tread, so anyone interested in an answer to this should take a look to my reply in post #8 here.
In the future, please posting similar comments in only one forum would be a great service to me and the readers, as it helps to consolidate information better and also makes it easier for forum members to conduct research.
Thanks! :lol:
Phoenix
I order a medium and is a little to firm for me, i noticed that the soft has a cool gel and the med does not. Iâm very unhappy with novosbed because I spoke to them about the bed it gets to hot, hot to the touch. If I get off the bed to go to bathroom and come back the spot still hot. Now I have to stay 60 days with a hot bed to get a return because it gets hot so this is not cool.
Hi Vietnow,
Welcome to the Mattress Forum!
Both the soft and medium use an Airflow memory foam â 2" of 3.7 lb Premium Gel memory foam (not âcoolâ gel) in the plush and 2" of 5 lb Premium Airflow memory foam in the medium - which has a more open-cell structure that helps this foam to breathe better than previous generations of memory foam, whether or not a liquid gel polymer is added to the foam or not (which would be more of an addition to durability). And even with a different type of foam used on top, you may sleep warmer with a more plush mattress, as all foams are insulators to an extent, and sinking âinâ more in a plush mattress can lead to a warmer sleeping environment.
Memory foam overall tends to be the least breathable of all foams, and if you are temperature sensitive it may not be your preference. You can read more about phase change materials in post #9 here and at the end of post #4 here) and you can read more about the various different types of gel foams in post #2 here. In general terms gel foams will tend to have a temporary effect on temperature while you are first going to sleep until temperatures equalize but have less effect on temperature regulation throughout the course of the night.
Overall, the materials, layers, and components of a sleeping system that are closer to your skin will have a bigger effect on airflow, moisture transport, and temperature regulation than materials, layers, and components that are further away from your skin and softer mattresses or foam toppers will tend to be more âinsulatingâ and for some people can sleep warmer than firmer versions of the same material. There is more about the many variables that can affect the sleeping temperature of a mattress or sleeping system in post #2 here that can help you choose the types of materials and components that are most likely to keep you in a comfortable temperature range.
Iâm guessing that you mean the mattress feels warm to you, not hot to the touch, as there are no thermogenic properties within the mattress itself. And if youâre expecting your mattress to be back to room temperature after sleeping in one spot for a few hours and then leaving it for a few minutes, you may be disappointed with any product you choose, as that would be a very fast transfer of temperature. Even my latex mattress will still have some of my heat signature when getting up in the middle of the night.
Regarding being âangryâ with Novosbed, or any other manufacturer for that matter, that I donât understand. I can understand if youâre disappointed if something doesnât met you comfort preferences, but there will always be an unknown with ordering something online, which is why many manufacturers offer exchange/return policies. And as a consumer it is your responsibility to become aware of those policies before placing your order, and why it is something I always recommend here on the site. Novosbed is incredibly transparent with their 120 night sleep trial, even to the point of creating a graph to help explain the timeframe for return or the ability for ordering a Comfort+ kit (which you can do after 30 days).
It may be that memory foam, in any form, isnât to your liking, in which case you might want to investigate some other sort of comfort material with your next mattress, or at the very least read through what I linked to earlier and take a look at your sleep environment to see if there is anything you can do to make things more breathable and comfortable for you in the interim.
Phoenix
Hey abbygrant, how about an update on that Alexander Signature mattress. Wondering if you kept it or not and if it was soft.
The Alexander Signature did not work for me either. Itâs a soft bed, but I ended up with lower back pain. The mattress I found that is closest to the TempurCloud is the Dreamfoam Ultimate Dreams Supreme 12" Gel Memory Foam . We have a split king bed and my husband now sleeps on the Alexander Signature. He likes it pretty well.
Thanks for the update. Did you end up with lower back pain because it was too soft? How does the dreamfoam bed compare to the nest? Is it softer or firmer?
Nest used to offer their Alexander Signature in three different firmnesses including a soft which is no longer available. I tested it out when available and it was REALLY soft, so I could see where it may have provided a lack of adequate support for many individuals.
Iâm just curiousâŚwhy would anyone make a mattress that provided a lack of adequate support? Seems counterproductive. Iâm so far in right now, Iâm actually now looking at the 12 and 13 inch dreamfoam ultimate dreams gel memory foam mattresses. Iâm going to a mattress store this weekend again and will try their softest memory foam mattresses and then research comparisons to these 2
Some people like an extremely soft mattress, but many such designs may only provide adequate support for very light individuals. Preferred sleeping position is also a factor in choosing how soft a mattress might be suitable for anyone.
Well, when I sleep on a mattress thatâs too soft for me, I get lower back pain. However, my husband is still sleeping on the Alexander Signature Medium and it works for him. I canât remember, but I may have tried the Signature soft and then swapped it for a medium.
The dreamfoam 12" has the memory foam feel that I like. I sink into it but it conforms to my body while providing support. It doesnât feel like the Alexander Signature. I guess I would say itâs firmer. It feels closest to my Tempurcloud, which is now in the guest room since itâs a Queen size.
thanks abby
Hi Phoenix. I guess this is directed more to you than anyone else, but anyone with the info please feel free to share. I am seriously considering purchasing the Ultimate Dreams Supreme 12âł Gel Memory Foam Mattress, but I just want some clarity on the foundation. I currently have a king size Simmons Beautyrest Classic Pillowtop with boxsprings(the boxsprings are 2 pieces). Can I use these boxsprings as the foundation for this memory foam mattress, or would I have to purchase a new foundation? If I need a new foundation, what is recommended? I like the current height of my bed now, and it sits on a bed frame with head and foot board. Also, I love the feel of this bed, so if anyone could maybe let me know if this memory foam mattress will have a similar soft feel as my current mattress if thats possible.
Thanks for the help.
PS_is dreamfoam a member of this site?
Hi droidx.
As always with any mattress, Iâd make sure to first check with the manufacturer of the mattress you are considering to ensure that your current foundation meets the manufacturerâs warranty criteria. I am not very sure what type of âbox springâ you own but if it is the metal semi-flex foundation that Simmons provided with their mattresses a decade ago Iâd make sure to check that it is perfectly flat and that it has no dips or flexing that can negatively affect the performance and of your new mattress.
Generally, a foam mattress with a polyfoam support core will do best with a firm, flat, and evenly supportive support surface underneath it that has minimal to no flex under the mattress. In your case for a king size, the foundation would need at least one center support beam that has good support to the floor to prevent any sagging in the middle of the mattress. The components (either a bedframe and foundation or a platform bed) need to be strong and durable enough to support the weight of the mattress and the people sleeping on it without some of the parts bending, sagging, shifting, or breaking with extended use. The support surface under the mattress (which may be a solid surface, slats or a steel or wire grid) should have enough surface area to prevent the mattress from sagging through any gaps or spaces in the support surface over time but still allow some airflow under the mattress. If a foundation has a slatted surface then I would suggest that the gaps between any slats are no more than about 5" (with 1 x 3 slats) although I would strongly suggest 4" or less which would be better yet.
While an âactiveâ boxspring (such as the one used for an innerspring) wouldnât damage the foam, and as long as the supportive surface is even, in most cases an âactiveâ boxspring under a foam mattress will detract from the performance of the foam (it will compress when it shouldnât) and detract from the alignment and support of the mattress. ⌠is certainly doesnât allow the foam to live up to its best potential. An âactiveâ boxspring it is not the ideal base for an all foam mattress in the majority of cases as the âactiveâ part of it is usually designed to aid an innerspring mattress. Thereâs much more information about the functions of foundations, active slat systems and actual box springs in the foundation thread here. With most modern mattresses, the bottom piece of the mattress set is a foundation that does not flex.
You are looking at two different mattress types and design with different âfeelsâ, different characteristics, and different firmness levels. Every individual layer and component in a mattress (including the cover and any quilting material) will affect the feel and response of every other layer and component both above and below it and the mattress âas a wholeâ so each mattress category will generally include some mattresses that have a design that will be a good âmatchâ for you in terms of âcomfortâ, firmness, and PPP and others that use the same type of materials and components and are in the same category and may be just as durable but have a different design or firmness level that may be completely unsuitable for you to sleep on ⌠even if it uses the same general type of materials and components.
Generally the best way to compare two mattresses from different manufacturers which are in the same mattress category and have a similar construction, would be to place a call to the manufacturer themselves and ask about how their product would compare to the other one (in your case the one you currently own) They would have much more experience with their own product and similar competitor products and usually base their assessment on their direct experience and on customer feedback ⌠that could be more helpful to you.
While DF is not a member of our site, generally each time you wish to check if a specific company is a TMU trusted member you can always check the most up to date membership listing here.
Phoenix