Organic Latex Mattress

[phoenix]

Hi Turtlebed,

Both mattress combinations felt good : The all dunlop was a bit firmer but still comfortable when turning to my side. The Talalay had a more cushion feel to it . My only concern would i start sinkinking and loose supportt??

Your own testing and personal experience would be the most reliable way to know whether a mattress is a good match for you in terms of PPP. It doesn’t matter how much you sink into a mattress … only how evenly (see post #6 here).

The NM Store will make a custom bed. #’ Firm Dunlop,3"Soft Talalay(Top) in a with wool and cotton . The mattress is cut 54"wide and the case is quite padded. They have another case without wool/cotton (with doctors note), but not able to test or see it .

If you can’t test a mattress in person then the return or exchange policy may become a more important part of your personal value equation just in case your sleeping experience indicates the mattress isn’t as good a “match” for you as you hoped for. The mattress cover can also make a significant difference in how the mattress feels and performs.

As far as which combination of latex is best I will try both again this week.
The Foam Order mattress in the knit case I could feel the latex
With the NM Store encasement I did not feel the latex as much

A quilted cover can certainly affect the feel of the latex underneath it. Some people prefer this and some don’t. Thicker quilting layers will have a bigger effect than thinner quilting layers and a knit cover that stretches will have the least effect of all.

I am assuming it is advisable to get a ticking type case?

I’m not sure what you mean by a “ticking type case” but if you mean a case that uses wool quilting then post #6 here has more about the pros and cons of wool quilted covers. The choice between them would be personal preference. A good quality mattress cover is also important to protect the latex inside it from oxidation and premature breakdown. Post #3 here has some good examples of how different types of covers can affect or protect the latex inside them

If the ticking type case at Foam Order cannot work out ? Where can I find an organic ticking type case 6" deep?

I understand a ticking type encasement will provide more durable protection for the mattress . If i go with Foam Order where to I find a Ticking type zippered case that is 6 inches deep made of Organic Cotton

The DIY component post here includes the better sources I’m aware of where you can buy mattress covers separately.

I was thinking if I put an organic wool mattress protector on top of the mattress ,why would I need wool inside the encasement? (Have a doctors note to avoid flame retardant protection)

The encasement is meant to make sure that the mattress passes the fire regulations and is specifically meant to surround the mattress, help it keep its shape, and also contributes to the “feel” and design goals of the mattress. Wool is a natural material so if you prefer a wool quilted cover then there would be no need for a doctors note to get a “chemical free” mattress. A mattress protector is just meant to protect the top surface of the mattress from the body fluids that we release each night along with accidents and spills and can be easily removed and cleaned to keep your sleeping surface in a clean and hygienic condition. A mattress ticking will also usually include more wool than a mattress protector. A mattress cover is meant to be part of the feel and performance of the mattress and a mattress protector is meant to have the least possible effect on the mattress. Again these are all preference choices.

The Foam Order combination Dulop/Dunlop feels more supportive at this point . and I can always add an inch topper of talalay if down the road need slight more cushion?

You can certainly add a topper to any mattress that is too firm is you need additional pressure relief. I would also make sure that you understand the difference between a mattress that “feels” firmer and a mattress that provides better alignment. Support/alignment is about how well your spine is alignment in all your sleeping positions and this is what you will tend to feel when you wake up in the morning (either with or without lower back pain or discomfort). A mattress that is too firm and a mattress that is too soft can both provide poor alignment in all your sleeping positions. Firmer isn’t necessarily better for the type of evenly supportive mattress that keeps your spine in good alignment. The floor for example would be much to firm to provide good support for all the curves of the body.

My concern with the NM Store: Since this is a custom order and not one of their regular stocked configurations: There is No Return on the Mattress. There is a comfort exchange available but there would be nothing to exchange since they do not carry Soft Dunlop . if the Talalay top layer became too soft , there would be nothing to exchange the layer for .

This is certainly a valid concern and when you can’t test a mattress in person then options you have after a purchase to customize the mattress, exchange layers, or return the mattress if it doesn’t work out as well as you hoped can be an important part of the “value” of a mattress purchase. Talalay latex is a very durable material in a suitable firmness level. If a mattress that used it in the comfort layers was a good match for you in terms of PPP and wasn’t “on the edge” in terms of softness (where even a small amount of softening could take you over the edge) then durability wouldn’t be a concern. There is more in post #4 here and the other posts it links to about the many variables that can affect durability and the useful life of a mattress relative to each person.

Post #2 here also has more about making “final choices” when you are comparing mattresses that are both good quality, have no weak links in their design, and there are no clear winners between them.

Phoenix