Pillows?

Funny you should mention that Pheonix, since I’m knitting them right now. Well, not while I type… that would be pretty amazing though. :slight_smile:

I’m playing around with the weight of yarn and gauge. Wool is a must for it’s temperature regulating properties with a plain stockinette stitch for stretchability and lack of possible facial imprints. Once I’ve gotten a good swatch knitted up I’ll start on the pillowcase and post pictures, observations and any befuddlement’s I have here.

Once I made up my mind about knitting the cases myself, I gave up looking for them. I really like knitting and it’s satisfying for me to futz around with things like this. I’m hoping to get them done in a week or two depending on my distraction levels and other projects that elbow in too. :slight_smile:

Thank you Coventry & Phoenix for the information! I love this blog, a lot of useful information is shared here.

Great thread on pillows.

I have been using a buckwheat hull pillow for over 20 years and love it. I have some cervical spine issues that I go to the chiropractor for. I like that I can shape the pillow to any size I need for neck/head support no matter what position I am in. I know this type of pillow is not for everyone. I bought my wife one and she was not crazy about it.

I had tried some of the foam neck support/chiropractic pillows on the market before I purchased the buckwheat one, and was very unhappy with them, they also were not cheap. They were either very uncomfortable or flattened out after a few months of use.
My wife also tried a wool-filled pillow at one point, but that flattened out after about a year.

I had a good laugh when I read about ZhivagosGirl’s 50 year old pillows. We also have 2 feather/down pillows that must be at least 50 years old that I cannot let go of. I think I used them as a child and inherited them from my parents. They are as flat as a pancake, but I don’t actually use mine as a pillow, but more as a neck/ chest warmer when I am sleeping on my back, and as a side/chest support when sleeping on my side, stomach or somewhere in between. I can’t even imagine what they look like inside. :sick:

The reason I searched for the pillow thread, is because my wife is having some neck issues since we got our new latex mattress. Up until now, she has been using a feather pillow for the past few years and has been very happy with it. Now she is searching for a new type of pillow.

A promise I made to myself years ago…IF I find a “perfect” pillow I will buy the store out. I had that pillow a few years ago and kept saying - “I’m going next weekend to buy the rest of them off the shelf”. I never did, and subsequently never found the pillow again since it was discontinued. It was a foam pillow at WalMart for $30-40. The next one I find that hit’s the sweet spot will be hoarded!

Hi Overcomer,

I completely understand the sentiment :slight_smile:

Phoenix

I just wanted to pass along additional thanks on this pillow reference. While doing my mattress shopping at Original Mattress Factory, I noticed that the most comfortable pillow they had was the higher loft latex pillow from Rejuvinite. While the OMF pricing on that pillow was quite good, I ended up getting the high loft zoned pillow (but the firm, not plush model) from Malouf via Amazon. I’ve now slept on it three nights and like it quite a bit. There is a small odor, but it is decreasing every night. While it -is- a little bouncy, I find that when laying my head on the pillow, which is on the mattress, it turns into a nice smooth support platform – it does not feel too bouncy at that point.

John

Buckwheat pillow should be the best. But it seems to demand such a high premium if you want even a half decent sized one. Too much for something made out of a waste product.

Anyway, I settled on a pair filled with inch cubed memory foam, giving you all the flexibility to set whatever shape and size you want. They once throw them at people in Ikea for $4.99

it seems waterbase pillows got overlooked here …

i wish there was more choice with the top layer though - because for now it seems its either dacron or down.

also i wish they made them waveless like modern waterbeds - although i don’t think waves would be nearly as much of a problem in a pillow as with a waterbed i still see no reason not to use a technology that already exists.

basically it’s a shame more companies aren’t trying to develop this idea …

I like most of you live in a normal US city with a big city within an hour. In this case Charlotte, NC. I just purchased a latex mattress, but was not in love with the latex pillows they were selling. Before I buy on Amazon or some other website, are there any chain stores that carry any pillows worth a darn where you can actually try them out? I don’t care about cost, just comfort and I don’t want to buy a pillow from Amazon (untested) and have to send it back.

Any help would be appreciated.

I bought latex pillows at Sears (and unfortunately returned) and our Bed Bath and Beyond also carries them.

Pillow resource:

Sweethome recently did a review on pillows and I think it’s a great article. There are some glaring omissions, such as reviews of better memory foam (they discounted the entire category because overall people are not happy with memory foam), and shredded latex (I think it just flew under their radar). I also wrote a blog about the study that includes my love for buckwheat hull pillows.

Also, I realize that I need to explore shredded latex pillows. It’s possible that they may be the best option for most of my patients.

Sweethome: The Best Bed Pillows

Finding Your Perfect Pillow

Hi jankdc,

Thanks for the links :slight_smile:

I agree that the articles are very informative and well worth reading and I’ve added your post to the list of pillow reference posts here.

Phoenix

I have been searching for a low profile pillow for some time due to always waking with neck strain as a back sleeper on too high a pillow. Most of the time I just end up taking the pillow off the bed and just laying flat on the mattress. I ran across this pillow on Amazon during my mattress search and purchased it in the low profile option, standard size.

Dreamfoam Ultimate Dreams Shredded Gel Memory Foam Pillow

The first three or four nights I did not like the pillow at all and pushed it aside. A couple nights later I tried it again and found it had mellowed out a bit and felt really good on my neck and head. Even turning over on my side I can scrunch it up and reshape the foam pieces into a supportive profile. It may not be the “perfect” pillow but it is the best I have found in a long time and at a reasonable price. If I get a year out of it, at $26 I consider that an acceptable value ratio. I did not notice any odor at all.

Hi Phoenix,

I recently bought a Flobeds 100% natural latex vzone mattress and reported in previous posts a review of the mattress which I am very, very satisfied with.

However, I find that now I have starteds sleeping on my side at night but ending up sometime during the night moving to my back. If I woke up when this happened, I could re-fluff my shredded latex pillow to flatten it out somewhat so that my chin doesn’t point downward…but I don’t, thereby now causing me to wake up with neck and upper shoulder pains from the nights that this now occurs.

So, I’d now like to find a pillow that works well AUTOMATICALLY when I sleep on either my back or side and could occasionally be used on the rare times that I sleep on my stomach. I fully realize that this is going to be difficult to do.

After reading all the posts I could on pillows, I’m leaning towards trying a zoned 100% natural latex pillow. My first instinct was to purchase the Z by Malouf zoned 100 % Natural Talalay latex pillow listed on Amazon in the high lift plush model…I believe I read this is the same pillow you have. However, it looks like the majority of the new reviews have recently progressively deteriorated… in terms of overall satisfaction as well as consistency of the product. Do you know if they have recently changed manufacturers…or any thing else that might be attributing to these newer reviews?

I’ve also research similar latex zoned pillows from Flobeds and Sleep EZ as well as one I just found from the Well Living Shop

http://welllivingshop.com/pillows/talalay-pillows-multi.html .

Do you have any recommendations regarding these four pillows or can point me to any specific reviews of any of them?

I’m really hoping that I can find ONE 100% Natural Latex pillow that allows me to switch positions while I sleep and doesn’t require that I switch between two different pillows or causes me to have re-adjust a singular pillow during the night.

Any assistance you can give me is (as always) sincerely appreciated.

Best,

Deputy Dawg

Hi DeputyDawg,

No … I don’t have any specific information about them.

Unfortunately … there are too many individual preferences involved in a pillow choice for me to make any specific pillow recommendations although there is more general information about pillows in the pillow thread here which may be helpful.

Phoenix

Ah pillows! What a wonderfully (annoying) search they can be!

I’ve always been a feather/down pillow person myself. but over the years I’ve tried out different forms of fiber fill, latex, memory foam, etc. The pure memory foam/latex pillows never feel right to me. Just a little to firm. I love the feel of a nice fluffy feather/down pillow. My current love is the Pacific Coast Double DownAround® Medium Pillows. Seems about perfect for me, but I’m tempted by the pillows below now.

My better half is another story. She’s a stomach sleeper and we’ve tried latex, fiber fill, and even a soft version of my pillow. None seem to work quite right for her. The soft double down around doesn’t have enough density to hold together, it tends to push the feathers & down away from her head now when she lays down. This weekend while out testing mattresses, we found a new pillow that she is very interested in. The Brookstone® BioSense Memory Foam Classic Pillow with Better Than Down® Cover. She really liked the memory foam core with the fluffy surround cover.

We also ran into a similar pillow at Mattress Firm that was priced a bit more, but I didn’t catch the brand/model and it doesn’t seem to be on the website.

Brooklyn Bedding sells another one that looks very similar as well, the iPedic Classic Pillow

Hi osahar,

I couldn’t agree more :slight_smile:

Thanks for sharing some of your thoughts and research and I hope you have the chance to let us know what you end up choosing and your feedback (from both of you) when you’ve had the chance to sleep on it as well.

Phoenix

Ok, so took the first plunge of the “new bed” journey. We ordered a pair of the BioSense 2™ Classic Pillow for All Sleepers. The “2” model comes with a 100% tencel fabric cover to cool it a bit more (we stopped at a Brookstone store on Sunday and tried out both models) plus it adds another natural ingredient, peppermint, to the odor control ingredients in the original version (green tea, charcoal, and seed oil).

If anyone is looking, the website lists a great sale on them right now. Buy 1, get one 50% off. The online cart doesn’t do it correctly, but I called customer service and they honored that deal at the current sale price. So $69.99 and $34.99. Plus free shipping. Great deal, and I can’t wait to be sleeping on the new pillows!

Now to decide if I should get a set of pillow protectors for them. I’ve never used one, and the idea of a waterproof version would probably be a good idea as long as it doesn’t have that “crinkly” sound when you are laying on it. I found these (White Mountain Textiles Stretch Knit Dust Mite & Bed Bug Pillow Covers from Phoenix’s reference thread on mattress protectors. Anyone have one they’d recommend?

Hi Osahar,

I had a bad experience with a good waterproof but breathable membrane pillow protector. In short, if using on a ‘poofy’ pillow, being one that compresses a bunch and then expands a bunch, the waterproof membrane significantly reduces the airflow, and significantly changes the behavior of the pillow. Basically, the pillow becomes slow to deflate, and even slower to inflate. I was trying on a down pillow - worst idea ever. I even tried not zippering it up, but that only slightly improved the situation.

It will certainly depend on the pillow… But my experience with a down pillow and a waterproof membrane pillow protector was among my worst ideas ever :wink:

Thanks for the input DN! I haven’t seen much on people’s experience with them. Maybe I’ll try to find a water resistant cotton type of protector. Keep out the mites, etc., but still be breathable and keep most stuff off of the pillow.