While I donāt have any personal experience on your specific pillow I have also tried similar pillows with a combination of wool and shredded latex pillow stuffing encased with organic cotton and they would tend to be very breathable and temperature regulating (in both directions).
As Jeff also mentioned ā¦ adding wool to shredded latex would result in a different and less resilient (springy) āfeelā compared to a pillow that only used shredded latex.
It also has the ability to customize the amount of fill in the pillow so that it can be customized to suit your individual needs and preferences.
A pillow with shredded foam materials or wool is also more āscrunchableā than a pillow that has more solid materials so that you can adjust the loft and firmness of the pillow when you change sleeping positions.
For the benefit of others that are reading your post Iāll add the same general comments as I did in reply to your other post about pillows that have a soft solid layer on top of memory foam.
[quote]In terms of how they feel or perform ā¦ a suitable pillow is an essential part of good alignment for the head and neck and upper body because the gap between the head and the mattress and the curve of the cervical spine needs to be supported just like all other parts of the spine. Like mattresses though ā¦ there are certain āneedsā that depend on body type and sleeping positions (and on the firmness of the mattress you are sleeping on) but with pillows, personal preferences play a more important role because the face is much more sensitive to textures, temperature, smells, and other more subjective āfeelā based properties of a pillow. There is more about choosing pillows in the pillow thread here and the other topics and sources of information that it links to that may be helpful as well.
Better sleep shops will often have samples of their pillows available for you to try (they should be in a pillowcase and not a plastic wrapping) so you can try different types of pillows and pillow materials in person and use your own personal experience rather than just ātheoryā or other peopleās experiences to help you decide on the types of pillows and pillow stuffing you tend to prefer but the only way to know for certain whether a pillow you havenāt tried before a purchase will work well for you and how you will like it will be based on your own personal experience when you sleep on it.[/quote]
I have tried every price level of what Iād call āregularā stuffed pillows, and never really ended up liking one more than the other.
Recently, I picked up one of those āNormalizerā pillows that my chiropractor recommended, to try and help with some old back and neck problems.
So I thought Iād share my experience with it.
First of all, itās a foam pillow, with whatās supposed to be a cooling and moisture wicking cover.
On both fronts it seems to work well.
I donāt really know how to describe it, but itās not āpsychologically comfortableā if that makes any sense.
You canāt bunch it up under your head, and itās not all cushy and soft. You canāt really sleep with your arm under the pillow (which is something I sometimes do), or cuddle up with it. Itās just not that kind of pillow.
Itās not ānormalā despite its name.
From an ergonomic perspective the pillow really works well.
It provides support under your neck, and helps to keep your spine in alignment over the course of the night.
Took a lot of getting used to, but Iām starting to like it. It helps me sleep better.
Will I keep it over the long haul? The jury is still out on that one.
But I do know that no other pillow has provided the same level of head and neck support overnight that this one does.
I wouldnāt recommend it if you sleep face down though. It has a different shape if you flip it over, to account for that style of sleep. But honestly, I donāt find that position very comfortable.
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Does anyone have any experience with the Berkeley Ergonomics Gummi (shredded latex) pillow?
I tried the Nest Bedding Easy Breather latex pillow, and while it is both supportive and soft, I donāt like the idea of the poly fill mixed in the with the latex.
Iām also trying a Wool Bolus pillow (from Soaring Heart) but adjusting the fill and still not sure if itās right for me. I love the idea of an all-wool pillow, but I find it lumpy and not as contouring as Iād hoped.
I recently switched from being a life-long stomach sleeper to now sleeping on my back and side. Itās still growing pains making the adjustment, but I knew I couldnāt keep sleeping on my stomach without long-term damage to my lumbar region.
Any suggestions for your best Latex pillows would be appreciated! I see some people are proponents of the LaNoodle. Would like to hear more.
I love my LaNoodle pillow - never thought Iād give up down pillows, but I have since getting the LaNoodle. I bought one of the queen size overfilled pillows with the zipper so I could adjust the amount of noodles in the pillow. I like a firmish pillow, but this one had so much fill that I ended up with enough noodles that I removed from the pillow to make a softer standard pillow to go with the queen sized one I had ordered. The pillow is squishable so that I get excellent support, while still being soft enough that Iām comfortable all night long. I use a tencel pillowcase so the pillow always feels cool and Iām not constantly flipping the pillow to find the cool side - which is a good thing, because the LaNoodle pillow is heavier than a down pillow and therefore harder to flip. Iāve used mine for about three or four years now, and I still think itās the best pillow Iāve ever found. Iām a side sleeper, and itās just perfect for me in that position.
Thanks, Clawdia. Given that the extra fill pillow (I assume that you chose this out of the lite, regular, and extra fill options) had excess fill, do you think the regular would be fine?
I tried the LaNoodle Pillow, and true to what others have said here, it really is a dream. It offers comforting support, but you barely know itās there. I purchased the one with the zipper and the adjustable fill, since Iām particular about loft. After trying various pillowsākapok, carded wool, wool bolusāthis one is my definite favorite.
On the search for a new pillow. I recently had a ~3" memory foam firm pillow that was working well with my firm mattress.
I got a new soft 2" topper recently and the pillow doesnāt provide the support it used to. I think my shoulders are causing the part of the pillow near my neck to drop down, and as such I am losing support for my neck and waking up with neck pain.
Any pillow suggestions or remedies to combat this? The la noodle looks interesting, but I have had a bad experience with shredded memory foam pillows before (much too hot, head sinks in too deep, no support for the neck). I am possibly thinking of a hard flat rubber type platform to put under my pillow but am not sure where to get one or what to get. That or simply getting a taller pillow
I find that the LaNoodle doesnāt sleep hot. And the LaNoodle isnāt quite the same as shredded latex. I also discovered that some shredded latex pillows sold out there are actually a mix of latex and poly (like Nestās). The poly would be a contributing factor to heat retention, I think.
In my experience, the LaNoodle provides the right amount of support, especially if you buy the one with the adjustable fill. I tried out four types of pillows before I settled on the LaNoodle: cotton (which flattened and had no support), kapok (which was okay but felt like it had too much resistance), and wool (bolus and carded, both of which werenāt comfortable to me).
I tried searching the forum for any reviews about the Berkeley Ergonomics Gummi pillow, but it looks like it was only brought up once a few posts up, about a year ago, so I was hoping to refresh the conversation.
Anyone tried it since then? I wasnāt pillow shopping at the time, but happened to lay on the Gummi as I was testing latex hybrids locally and thought it was a great blend of softness and support. I was considering ordering it but they donāt accept returns, so I wanted to come here first to see if there were any reviews from people who have spent more than 15 minutes on it.
Thatās when I saw the reviews about the La Noodle, above. The Gummi is a shredded latex with kind of ragged, uneven edges. The La Noodle looks like, well, noodles. Is anyone familiar with both? Wondering what the main differences would be.
I noticed that TMU member Sleep EZ also offers a āNoodle Latex Pillowā which might be worthy of consideration, as well as shredded and solid latex pillows.
Thanks for your reply; Iād would be interested in knowing the answer as well. Also, thanks for mentioning expert member Sleep EZās pillows as an option. Here is aTMU resource link regarding the pillow shopping process, a good read for others currently on the pillow shopping journeyā¦
Hello,
It looks like this is THE thread for pillows. A lot of the links keep referring back to this thread (in fact some of them are self/circular referrals within this thread).
After reading through all the pages, it looks like there isnāt any overwhelming choice for pillow.
There is some good feedback about Obasan wool pillow in this thread. I will try this at Urban Mattress this week before deciding. From the info, this looks very similar to above DIYās pillow but at a higher price.
Casper Pillow is being advertised as the one to support all sleep positions which I would need, as I donāt always sleep 100% on the back or on the side and it is a combination of the two.
Please let me know if there is any other good pillows to look at.
My experience with pillows so far:
a) I currently have Oxygen Pillow from Berkeley Ergonomics and it has lost lot of its support and it is sagging greatly just like the double coiled Berekeley Ergonomics mattress after 3 years of use which I am in the process of throwing out and replacing. Due to this I would like avoid latex or latex shredded pillow.
b) I also have Down alternative pillows from Bed Bath and Beyond. Not good enough, but currently using this instead of Oxygen pillow.
c) I have tried Technogel Vive mattress and the mattress has good cooling properties and but it definitely sinks after 5 to 6 hours of sleep causing back pain and so I returned it back. In that process I didnāt find the contour/shape of the Technogel pillow comfortable. Also the cooling effect is only noticeable in the first hour or so after which it warms up to body temperature.
d) Not a big fan of memory foam pillows as they usually heat up after lying in the same position for sometime.
I ordered two queen Layla pillows (70/30 shredded memory foam and kapok). I basically got them BOGO combining offers. I also found a good deal on organic kapok fill and bamboo mattress covers with a zipper. Iām looking forward to putting them together. Iām waiting on a BOGO deal at CozyPure for a LaNoodle pillow.
Some other pillows that look interesting but I have not tried:
Avocado Green pillow (70% ribbons of latex, 30% kapok).
Pluto pillow (they ask questions about your preferences and then build it.) It looks like they do a pillow within a pillow design, using polyfoams.
I posted several months ago wondering if I should order the Gummi or LaNoodle pillow, and ended up going with the LaNoodle. I got the adjustable fill version and have been very happy with it.
Now I want to add a body pillow and am not sure what type of fill to go with. Iām a side sleeper and want a pillow that I can rest my free arm on, as well as put between my knees. Right now I just use an extra queen pillow for either my arm OR my knees, and want to be able to do both.
I know Iām happy with the LaNoodle for my main pillow, but havenāt tried the other fill types to know which I would prefer as a body pillow.
Can anyone offer the main differences and/or their experiences between latex noodles, wool and kapok, especially as it pertains to how body pillows are used for side sleepers?
Pillow question here. I have been sleeping on one of the ubiquitous Tempurpedic contour pillows for the past 6 years. After successfully making the switch to a Sleep EZ hybrid bed last month, I no longer want any poly foam in my bedroom, especially near my face. I am worried that I will not be able to find a natural pillow that will give the same firm compression for my compromised rotator cuff and c5, c6 stenosis. I have tried sleeping on the shredded latex pillows that came with the bed, adjusted the fill level many times, and no go. I have tried a med loft talalay pillow, nope. I have seen latex pillows online in the same shape as the contour pillow, but as they are latex and not memory foam, they will not have the same nature, and I am worried they will not come close to the firmness I need. In desperation, I ordered a millet cervical pillow, and a kapok contour pillow with a head indent and a zipper. I am going to try to put the cervical pillow in the neck area of the kapok pillow, and see what happens. I did find a wool double bolster pillow, but at 180.00, I would like at least a couple of reviews before I commit to that. Any feedback or advice from fellow natural neck pain pillow seekers is appreciated. https://www.whitelotushome.com/bedding/kapillow-sleep-pillows-1.html https://www.whitelotushome.com/bedding/kapillow-sleep-pillows-1.html https://organiclifestyle.com/wool-pillows/orthopedic-neck-pillow-alternative-to-tempur-pedic?PageSpeed=noscript
Congratulations on your Sleep EZ mattress purchase! I am glad to hear that youāve had a successful experience. ( one of our members here. I understand the desire to want to transition away from a polyfoam pillow.
You may be interested in this thread that discusses a somewhat similar situation. They were also seeking a firm replacement for a polyfoam pillow. Choosing a pillow is also very personal like choosing a mattress as there are many unknowns, variables, and personal preferences involved in choosing a pillow to make specific suggestions or recommendations for someone elseā¦
I wouldnāt discount the āfirmnessā of a solid latex pillow just yet. Shredded latex pillows will generally be softer and āfluffierā and less ābouncyā than a solid latex pillow, so I wouldnāt avoid a solid latex pillow based on your experience with shredded latex.
Several companies also offer solid latex pillows in different firmness, but to be sure youād need to test it first. One option that has been discussed and recommended previously in the forum is the Malouf 100% Natural Talalay Latex Pillow that you may want to have a look at ā although, this is not a contoured pillow.
While it would be impossible to cover the properties of every possible pillow or pillow material on the market because there are so many (memory foam, polyfoam, latex, shredded foam materials, different types of wool or other animal fibers, plant fibers such as kapok or cotton, feathers, down, synthetic fibers or fiber āclustersā, buckwheat or millet hulls, and others) ā¦ in very general terms fiber fillings will tend to compress and pack down and become firmer over time (or in some cases over the course of the night) more than foam materials or shredded foam materials.
Wool is one of the stronger and more resilient fibers though so it tends to maintain its loft better and for longer than other fibers such as polyester (dacron) or cotton (especially wool āballsā vs wool batting).
I would be wary of relying too heavily on other peopleās reviews when it comes to choosing a pillow. Although one can learn a great deal from other peopleās experiences, what worked and did not work for them ā¦ Iād keep in mind that is no single pillow that is ābestā for any particular situation or āsymptomā because the goal of a pillow is to keep your head and neck in good alignment in all your sleeping positions and which pillow does this for any particular person or on any particular mattress will vary widely from person to person. In other words ā¦ a pillow that works well for one person with upper back, shoulder, or neck issues may not be suitable at all for someone else with similar issues.
Pillows are a very personal choice and different people will have very different pillow preferences or different opinions about what they perceive as firm and soft or the general type of pillow that āfeelsā good to them but some of the information in the pillow topic here and the posts it links to can help you choose a pillow that is the best āmatchā for you and the mattress you are sleeping on.
Like mattresses ā¦ there are certain āneedsā that depend on body type (or in your case, specific medical needs) and sleeping positions but with pillows, personal preferences play a more important role because the face is much more sensitive to textures, temperature, smells, and other more subjective āfeelā based properties of a pillow. There is more about choosing pillows in the above-mentioned pillow thread that you might find interesting if you havenāt read it already, and the other topics and sources of information that it links to that may be helpful as well.
That said, I did a forum search to see if anyone else had commented on these pillows, but could not find anything on these products. Hopefully, someone who owns one will see your post to weigh in with their experiences!
