Please recommend me some good retailers in Orange County, CA

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Hi Mike949,

You are wise not to fall for this and the outlets that do this (on an ongoing basis) usually don’t have the best value mattresses anyway … even at their steepest discounts. While there are some legitimate sales … they are for lesser discounts, legitimate reasons and not based on artificially inflated prices designed to “entice” the unwary.

In terms of the differences between Talalay and dunlop … it can sometimes be confusing because people will often use the same words with different meanings. For example … Dunlop to some people may feel more “bouncy” (which is what they call it here) while Talalay can feel more “springy”. This can also vary between different people with different weights, amount of movement, and perceptions. Both are highly resilient (resilience is a measure of how much energy a material stores and returns rather than it’s feel).

In general though … Talalay would be considered by most people as more “springy” and responsive. As an analogy … if you imagine a thicker spring (Dunlop) and a thinner spring (Talalay) … the thicker spring may not “travel” as far when a ball bounces on it but it can feel very “bouncy”. The thinner spring may “travel” or compress further with the same ball and then return the same (or similar) amount of energy to the ball which will rebound to approximately the same height (similar resilience). The thinner spring may feel more responsive and “springy” to many people because there is more vertical movement but it would also be fair to say that the thicker spring may feel more “bouncy” to others. Most people can feel a difference though between the two materials although what they also say on their site about the differences becoming narrower over the years is also true.

The organic Dunlop and 100% natural Talalay they sell are both in the “upper tier” of latex in terms of cost with blended Talalay and 100% natural Dunlop in the next cost tier down and blended Dunlop in the lowest tier. While there is no doubt that all of these are high quality materials … the upper tier may also not be the best “value” for some in terms of performance, feel, or durability for those where either 100% natural or the “certified organic” label are not as important. There’s more about the differences between blended, natural, 100% natural, organic, and certified organic Talalay and Dunlop (and most people will encounter all of these “confusing” terms) in post #6 here.

Foam Sweet Foam recently changed their address and their site (and the current one is much better than the old) and I didn’t change the listing to reflect this. Thanks for the heads up (it’s changed now :))

There are quite a few very good choices on the list that may be worth a call … although some of them may not have the same range of choices … but you have certainly picked two of the better ones IMO.

You are very fortunate to live in an area that has such good choices within a reasonable distance and I’m looking forward to hearing about your experiences … along with any questions you may have along the way.

Phoenix

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Actually I was in their Anaheim showroom today. It was a temporary showroom because they could not move in to their new spot yet. I guess there is still some construction going on. Anyway, I’ve tried both dunlop and talalay they have. Dunlop felt like a better product to me. I liked the 9" mattress with 3" of extra firm, 3" of firm and 3" of medium. My wife liked the 2x extra firm and 1x firm. But I was able to persuade her to get the softer set up. I am yet to place an order though because they don’t take your old mattress unless you pay $99. Also the foundations they sell are more expensive than other places. I’ll still place an order but I need to order the foundation from somewhere else and donate my old mattress to get rid of it.

As a side node, you can actually mix and match dunlop and talalay but their website does not allow this yet. Scott (believe he’s the owner) confirmed that this will be fixed in the website soon. But he also said that the prices are going up after Tuesday and the Dunlop will cost $50 more per layer.

Hope this helps.

-Yenal

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I was also able to make it to the Foam Sweet Foam Anaheim showroom before closing today (9/1), and had about 40 minutes to check it out. As Yenal mentioned, they’re in a temporary suite (facing Anaheim Blvd) while their new suite (facing Center St Promenade) is being finished. I don’t know when they’re scheduled to move into the Promenade suite, since I didn’t get much time to speak with the one person there (presumably Scott, based on Yenal’s post). He was on the phone virtually the entire time, although he did offer to answer any questions at one point, in between phone calls. I declined since I was busy using my time to try out the different King latex mattress sets with the different permutations of latex types (Dunlop, Talalay) and multiple layers (Soft, Med, Firm, X Firm). However, I did mention Mattress Underground to him during that brief exchange, and he knew what I was talking about right away (he mentioned Phoenix by name).

That was the first time I had tried that type of latex bed, where there are multiple layers of latex comprised of varying levels of firmness, all in a zippered container. I was hoping that I would have a wonderful experience and be really impressed, especially since they have a 30 year warranty and allow you to swap out a layer during the first 60 days (according to the web site). Sadly, I didn’t have that wonderful experience I was hoping for. No matter which combination I tried, I felt like I wasn’t experiencing true pressure relief across my entire body, and that there were always some gaps here and there that caused uncomfortable pressure points in various places, and some strain. They also felt warm (including the ones encased in organic cotton), but there was no A/C for the store (that I could see), and the front door was open (again, it’s a temporary suite at this time). It seems to me that these types of multi-layer latex beds are of the “progressive construction” type. By the way Yenal, thank you for clarifying about the ability to mix & match Dunlop and Talalay layers - I was planning to ask that question while I was there, but never got around to it since I didn’t feel that those beds would be right for me anyway. I’m disappointed because it sounds like the materials are very high quality, and the 30 year warranty with 60 day layer exchange are great - although since it’s a pretty small operation, I don’t know how real that 30 year warranty is. What are the chances of anyone being around in 30 years, or 20 for that matter. There’s so much consolidation these days, for all types of business.

For reference, I’m about 6’1" and 200 lbs. My wife is about 5’6" and 120 lbs, although she couldn’t make it to the store with me today. When I try a mattress, I try it in three positions - on my back, and on each side - since those are the positions that I rotate between as I sleep (or attempt to fall asleep). So far the most amazing mattresses I’ve experienced (last week) were an Aireloom and a Kingsdown “My Side”. In both cases, the mattresses had a medium-firm support layer (my words for it), with a plush or pillow-top comfort layer. In each case, the comfort layers felt fantastic (great Sink in comfort with amazing pressure relief), without sinking too far down (great spinal support). The Aireloom had a very comfortable and cool quilted & tufted fabric (ticking), which really seems to fill in all the gaps just right. The Kingsdown comfort layer was filled with a gel (not sure what type of gel), and it also felt terrific, with great pressure relief. When we had tried those mattresses, I didn’t yet have all of the information from Mattress Underground available, so I wasn’t ready to ask the proper questions about how each section (comfort and support) are constructed, quality of materials, etc. However, I suspect that each of those mattresses is over-priced (they’re each $4K give or take), and the materials probably aren’t durable enough to last as long as one would expect when paying that kind of money.

In any case, it appears that both my wife and I are most comfortable on a mattress of “Differential construction” (at least so far), where the comfort layer (with plenty of “poof” from quilting and tufting) is clearly separate from the support layer, with a decent amount of “sink in” for the comfort layer, along with a decent semi-firm support layer directly below the comfort layer. That being said, the only progressive construction mattresses I’ve tried (so far) are those at Foam Sweet Foam. I look forward to trying additional mattresses at Flexus (although they’re out until Tues), and any other mattress stores in the area that might have a quality product and knowledgeable, customer focused sales people. We actually did purchase a Custom Comfort mattress several years ago (one of the mattresses we burned through in the last 12 years), but it didn’t last very long (a few years), and we didn’t feel like going through the ridiculous hoops they required to claim a warranty. I’ve heard mixed reviews about Custom Comfort, and given our own experience, I don’t know if we’ll give them another shot. They’re family owned, but it’s hard to know if they truly have the right work ethic and attitude when it comes to customer satisfaction (but that’s true for just about any business these days).

I hope we can find a great mattress with that just right support layer plus pressure relieving comfort layer, sold by someone that cares about the customer and that will really stand behind their product (which is rare). We have plenty of information now, so we just need to keep investing some time, and miles on the freeway. If we can’t find just what we need, we may look into having a custom mattress built where we have a manufacturer start with a standard semi-firm support layer, and have them add a comfort layer of our liking on top (e.g. Talaly latex, quilted, tufted, breathable wool fabric, etc).

As I said in my earlier post, this should be interesting.

Thanks,

Mike

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Mike:

Do you remember the Aireloom model you’ve looked at? I want to see some coil based mattresses as well besides the completely latex ones.

Thanks,
Yenal

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Hi Yenal,

Yes, at Orange County Mattress, the Aireloom Bloomfield Firm and Deerfield (both last year’s models, on the way out), and the new Aquamarine Cushion Firm. There was also an Aireloom model at Sit’N’Sleep we tried and liked (same place we tried the Kingsdown My Side). I think at Sit’n’Sleep it was the Aireloom Aspen, but not 100% sure of it.

It seems like Aireloom and Kluft brand (same company) mattresses might be worth more investigation, but they are very pricey. I don’t know how long they last - I’d hate to purchase something like that and have the same old problem with degraded/compressed material after just a few years. Trying to find and purchase a quality mattress is ridiculously difficult, and frustrating!

Cheers,

Mike

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I actually called that place today. He was trying to sell me an Aireloom mattress on the phone while I was asking him for a latex mattress. But the price he was talking about was under a grand. I wonder if he was talking about a lower end model. He was stating that Aireloom has a 5 star rating in Europe (whatever that means) and it’s used in the White House… You can tell this guy was a sales man you’d see in any car dealership. I’ll check out their store tomorrow. It sounds like a “sale is final” place. No return policy or anything like that.

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A rep from OC Mattress tried selling you an Aireloom for under $1K over the phone? That sounds a big strange. It may have been a floor demo - it’s closeout time right now. Which location did you call? They have 11 or 12 locations in OC. I visited the Laguna Hills showroom yesterday (Friday) evening, and spoke with a guy named Brandon. He was extremely knowledgeable, friendly, and helpful. He seemed to know all about the construction and layers for each mattress model. Brandon mentioned he was going to be at the San Clemente location today, so if you called Laguna Hills, you were speaking with someone else.

By the way, I asked Brandon about their return policy. He said that OC Mattress can provide a 30 day comfort guarantee (I believe he mentioned an 18% restocking fee), however, they can’t give the deepest discounts if you want the guarantee. He said that they usually try to work with their customers to make sure they’re satisfied. However, I never actually saw the guarantee in writing (since I wasn’t going to purchase anything that night), so you would need to cover that with him. If you click on “Return Policy” on their website, it just talks about their warranty, and doesn’t say anything about their actual return policy.

I sending you Brandon’s cell number via private message. If you’re interested in dealing with OC Mattress, you may want to work with him instead.

Cheers,

Mike

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What a difference a day makes!

In my previous post I talked about not having a wonderful experience with the pure latex mattresses I tried at the Foam Sweet Foam showroom in Anaheim.

Today (9/2) my wife and I had the opportunity to try out the Pure Latex Bliss mattresses at Comfort Gallery (San Juan Capistrano), and we were impressed. The father and son owners (Ron and Ronny) seem to know a decent amount about the construction of the mattresses, although they didn’t have every detail available (such as ILD numbers for each layer). To be fair, they stated that PLB doesn’t release the ILD info for their mattresses, since that would make it easier for others to duplicate their performance. They have a very nice showroom, and it appeared to have all of the Pure Latex Bliss models, as well as mattresses by Tempurpedic, Diamond, Serta iComfort, and a few others.

We found the Pure Latex Bliss mattresses, particularly the “Nutrition” (11" of Latex) and “World’s Best Bed” (12" of Latex), to be very comfortable (excellent pressure relief), and supportive (excellent spinal alignment). They also offer the PLB toppers (2" and 3"), which are amazing. We liked the combination of the Nutrition model with a 2" topper. They offer either a traditional box spring foundation (very firm) or PLB Latex foundation (less firm), which can even be split to make one side more firm than the other.

The mattresses we tried were the newer models that use the new “ActiveFusion” gel technology to keep things (supposedly) cooler. According to the information available at the store and in some places on the web, ActiveFusion entails infusing gel (what kind of gel is unclear) into some of theTalalay Latex (not all layers), as well as into the yarn that’s used in the ticking fabric (that part sounds a little far fetched, although it is stated in the website referenced below). We found it to be very cool and comfortable. You can read more about the Nutrition model (with ActiveFusion) at the following online site that also sells PLB matresses:

http://www.eco-mattress-store.com/pure-latex-bliss-nutrition-natural-latex-mattress

What’s interesting to note is that the site I reference above (for the Nutrition model) indicates that the core is made up of “Long-Lasting Bonded Foam & Latex”, where as the information on the Comfort Gallery website indicates it’s 100% Talalay. I wonder if that’s due to a change in construction between last year and this year? If I go back to Comfort Gallery, I’ll try to find out more about that discrepancy.

The big down side is the price. The PLB Nutrition mattress and foundation set (split traditional box and PLB latex foundation), with the 2" topper, frame, delivery & set up approaches $5K. That’s quite a bit more than we’ve budgeted to spend on a new bed.

The upshot is that we’re now convinced that an all latex mattress may be viable for us after all. The combination of comfort, support, and durability are hard to beat (at least when all of the right materials are used together properly). I’ve started researching more of the latex mattresses referenced by this site, including the Ultimate Dreams mattresses by Dreamfoam Bedding (aka Brooklyn Bedding) available via Amazon (my favorite online shopping portal), and the other online latex mattress stores referenced by Phoenix in the following post:

https://forum.mattressunderground.com/t/latex-mattress

I still plan on visiting Flexus Comfort in the next few days as well.

The search continues!

Cheers,

Mike

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It’s so funny how similar our mattress searches are. I actually ordered a Pure Latex Bliss Active Fusion Beautiful mattress yesterday. I and my wife really loved it in the showroom. We paid $2600 + tax ($2800 OTD) for the mattress only and 2 free pillows.

-Yenal

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Congrats Yenal. Did you purchase from Comfort Gallery? Or did you find another PLB retailer closer to the Irvine area (maybe Ergo?). I’m curious about your experience, including how knowledgeable and helpful the people were.

Thanks,

Mike

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Hi Mike 949,

[quote]
The mattresses we tried were the newer models that use the new “ActiveFusion” gel technology to keep things (supposedly) cooler. According to the information available at the store and in some places on the web, ActiveFusion entails infusing gel (what kind of gel is unclear) into some of theTalalay Latex (not all layers), as well as into the yarn that’s used in the ticking fabric (that part sounds a little far fetched, although it is stated in the website referenced below). We found it to be very cool and comfortable. You can read more about the Nutrition model (with ActiveFusion) at the following online site that also sells PLB matresses: www.eco-mattress-store.com/pure-latex-bl...tural-latex-mattress
[/quote]. Sealy for example also adds a phase change material into the top foam layer and the cover of their Optimum mattress.

The gel they use is a phase change material which is one of the 3 main technologies uses to regulate the sleeping temperature of a mattress (There’s more about this at the end of post #4 here). It can be added to either a foam or a fabric and can be an effective piece of the temperature regulation puzzle in a mattress.

Pure Latex Bliss has 3 different model lineups. This includes the “Natural” line (which confusingly uses all blended talalay latex from top to bottom), the “All Natural” line (which uses 100% natural Talalay latex from top to bottom), and the Hybrid 3.0 line (which uses various combinations of slow and fast response “active fusion” Talalay in the top layers over a bonded latex/polyfoam core). When they first came out, the “natural” and “all natural” line used “regular” talalay rather than the new Talalay GL material (which is latex International’s name for the material that PLB calls active fusion). Since the introduction of the Hybrid 3.0 line though (which uses combinations of slow and fast reaaponse Talalay GL) … they have changed the top layer of the natural line so that it now used fast response Talalay GL (active fusion) latex in the top layer of all the models. So the have “all talalay latex” models and also various slow and fast response talalay latex over polyfoam depending on which line you are looking at. If the model name is Pamper, Nature, Nutrition, Beautiful, or Worlds Best Bed, then you are looking at a mattress that is latex from top to bottom.

So to recap …

What latex international used to call Celsion latex is now fast response Talalay GL fast response latex and PLB calls this Active Fusion fast response.

What latex International used to call NuForm has not been changed to add phase change materials in it and is now called Talalay GL slow response latex and PLB calls Active Fusion slow response.

Hope this helps and thanks for all your feedback :slight_smile:

Phoenix

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Hi Yenal,

Congratulations on your new mattress!

The Beautiful really is a “beautiful” mattress and is certainly miles ahead in terms of quality and value of the mattresses that most people end up buying from the chain stores or major brands.

You did well :slight_smile:

Phoenix

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I bought my mattress from a retailer called America’s Mattress in Orange, CA. They are close to Irvine. I really did not like my experience with the Ergo Custom Comfort. They tried to sell me a $7000 mattress and they did not even have the Pure Latex Bliss in their showroom. When I told them that that’s way over my budget he told me that they have financing options. That’s when I walked out the door.

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Hi Phoenix,

Thank you for clarifying the types of latex used by PLB in their various mattress lines, as well as the info you provided on the phase change gel used by PLB (and some others) to regulate temperature. Your level of knowledge is truly amazing.

Since I read your response, I’ve been reading up on Blended Latex (30% NR + 70% SBR), Talalay GL, and more via the Latex Intl website (latexfoam.com for anyone else that may read this posting), and various other places on the web (including here in TMU).

It sounds like Talalay GL (latex infused with phase change gel) is a fantastic material to use within the comfort layer, to help regulate temperature. The use of the phase change gel in the fabric is very interesting to me, since as you point out in the post #4 link, the gel material (apparently also part of the ticking fabric for the “ActiveFusion” based PLB models) fluctuates between semi-solid and semi-liquid states. It’s hard to imagine any part of the fabric becoming semi-liquid being a good thing (even if only at a molecular level). It seems to me that would introduce humidity, and even if there’s a mattress pad and sheets between our skin and the mattress fabric containing the phase change gel, I don’t see how that extra humidity would be a good thing. Of course, the PLB mattresses felt wonderfully cool as we tried them out in the air conditioned showroom, but that’s not the same thing as sleeping on them for many hours (and we don’t run our A/C all night either).

You also talk about ventilation, “breathability”, the wicking away of moisture, temperature, and microclimates in that above referenced posting. Can you be more specific about what you’ve seen & heard that works well for the full package including padding/protector, and other bedding components? I know wool is a great material for breathability, but if you have any specific info on what you’ve seen work well for the various bedding components, that would be helpful.

I’m going to continue looking at various latex mattresses, but right now anything that uses Talalay GL is way ahead of the game in my book. Please let me know if you’re aware of other manufacturers/retailers selling mattresses that use T-GL. I’m already researching it a bit using the Latex Intl website, but I’m guessing you may have some inside information on it.

Thank you again for all of your fantastic information and willingness to help!

Mike

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Hi Yenal,

Thank you for following up on your purchase experience. I’m not surprised that you had a bad experience at Ergo CC in Irvine. Although we haven’t visited that store, just knowing where it’s located there on Michelson & Jamboree at Park Place, where retail space is a premium, means they’re going to be pushing very pricey products. I’m glad to hear you walked out the door when the rep didn’t bother listening to you at all with respect to your mattress budget - he sounds like another ex used car salesman.

It sounds like you had a great experience at America’s Mattress in Orange. I did see them listed on the PLB list of retailers, although the AM website doesn’t list the PLB brand at all (same as Ergo).

We’re going to continue looking at other retailers that sell high quality latex mattresses, including others that sell PLB. I’m hoping we can find a good solution within the next week or so.

Cheers,

Mike

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Hi Mike949,

I’m not a materials scientist so this is a laymans understanding but phase change materials that are used in bedding are “micro-encapsulated” which allows for thermal conductivity and still allows the phase change to occur. This means that the phase change from liquid to solid is inside an enclosure and any “liquidity” remains inside the enclosure. There are quite a few good articles online about them but the wiki article and this article are both good explanations and go into a fair bit of detail. In the case of bedding the phase change is liquid/solid but other phase change materials that are used in other applications can also be liquid/gas (such as in the case of evaporation from a liquid to a gas which releases and disperses heat).

For good ventilation and temperature control you need something that can wick moisture from the skin and store it away from the body so it can disperse into the atmosphere. Wool (and other “hair” type fibers) is very good at this because it can hold up to 30% of it’s weight in moisture and remain dry on the outside of the fiber. It can then slowly release the moisture into the atmosphere. Wool also has the additional benefit of being water resistant so that if something spills on it then it won’t go right through and will be absorbed up to the limits of the wool to store the liquid. In certain weights and levels of densification … it is also an effective fire barrier.

In general … cotton and other plant fibers are good wicking materials but don’t store as much moisture before they feel wet while wool or other types of “hair” are good storage materials that can absorb moisture and stay dry against the skin.

Breathable foams also allow some storage of moisture and their open cell nature allows more of this moisture to evaporate rather than being trapped.

So as a general guideline, breathable foams or components in the comfort layers, natural fibers or breathable foams in the quilting layers, wicking fabrics that are natural or “semi-synthetic” (like bamboo and other rayon types) in the ticking, stretch cotton or wool in a mattress protector, cotton, bamboo, or linen in sheets and bedding can all be very effective.

Of course this is just the “short” version and there is as much to learn about different fabrics as there is about mattress materials and there are some people I know that are much more knowledgeable about all of this this than I am and could talk about the technical specs of various fibers and fabrics all day long. At some point I may convince them to write some articles for the site. :slight_smile:

It’s interesting too because at one point I was a long distance cyclist and would bicycle a hundred miles a day or so when I was touring and various different types of fabric layering was an important part of thermal regulation and staying dry. In general we used cotton next to the skin for wicking and wool cycling clothing outside the cotton to absorb the moisture and stay dry. The layers were designed to be able to add or remove a layer at a time and the properties of each layer (wicking or absorbing) were important for overall comfort in the face of ongoing exercise, perspiration and evaporation. Silk is another material that is highly breathable, can absorb about 30% of its weight in moisture without feeling wet, and is a great temperature regulator (in both directions) just like wool.

So hopefully this “short version” will give you some good guidelines for what to look for in the “layers” of your sleeping system for the “coolest” sleep possible.

Talalay GL isn’t widely used yet outside of the PLB or at least the new names aren’t but you will more often find descriptions from various manufacturers that say “Celsion” which is Talalay GL fast response and you will also find NuForm which is Talalay GL slow response without the phase change materials.

One of our members also sells Talalay GL toppers here.

SleepLikeABear also sells Celsion in all available firmness levels and in different thicknesses.

Another one of our members uses NuForm in one of their mattresses here.

Google searches on Celsion or Nuform will bring up more hits than google searches on talalay GL.

Phoenix

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Thanks Phoenix. You’ve provided me with the information I was looking for regarding Talalay GL, and a good primer on the “keep cool” bedding materials aspect I was asking about. I also appreciate your explanation regarding the use of phase change material in fabric, how it’s “micro-encapsulated”, and the links you provided to additional info on the subject - it’s all very helpful. We really liked the PLB mattress sets that use the fast response T-GL (Celsion), more so than any of the slow response stuff. Everything about those mattresses felt great - except the price. I’m hoping that I can find something similar in “cool comfort” and support that’s much more affordable - hopefully far less than $5K out the door for mattress, foundation, and frame.

Thanks again for all of your help! :slight_smile:

Mike

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Hey Yenal - Do you have any updates? I’m assuming you’ve taken delivery of your new PLB Beautiful that you purchased from AM in Orange. How was the delivery experience? How has the mattress been working out for you and your wife so far?

I ask because I’m still trying to decide where to purchase from. I visited AM last weekend, and spoke with Heather. She and her husband have a very nice showroom, and she was very helpful. Their prices are also pretty aggressive, in line with what you experienced.

Please let us know about your experience with delivery, setup, and the overall experience with your new PLB when you get a chance.

Thank you!

Mike

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We finally did the deed today and purchased a Pure Latex Bliss ActiveFusion Beautiful Cal King (mattress only) from Paul Niederer of Cost Plus Mattress in La Verne, CA (http://costplusmattress.com). We got it for well under $3K, and it should be delivered in about a week. We visited Paul at Cost Plus for the first time a little over a week ago, and were impressed with his old fashioned way of doing business, his knowledge of mattresses, his industry experience, and the quality of his products. Nevertheless, we continued to shop around so that we could make the most informed decision possible, which led us to purchasing from Paul today.

We needed only the PLB mattress since (after some investigation) it turns out that our Stearns & Foster box set is very well constructed, consisting of a multi-layer steel grid (heavy duty bars and wire) on top of several wood beams (looks like 2x6). The only odd thing about the box set is that they’re 83 inches long instead of the standard 84 inches for a Cal King. I doubt that having the PLB mattress hang over the end of the box spring by an inch (or each end half an inch if we center it) will hurt the mattress. Our existing metal frame is the heavy duty type, so that can stay as well.

We decided to make the drive to La Verne (again) and purchase from Paul (Cost Plus Mattress) for several reasons:

…Paul is 100% focused on customer satisfaction, honesty, and doing business the old fashioned way.

…He’s been in the mattress business for 25+ years.

…It’s a family business (I met his nephew at the store today).

…He’s all about educating the consumer about mattresses, comfort, and support, making sure you get a durable, high quality product that fits your needs, without the hype or pressure selling.

…His prices are extremely reasonable (you’ll see what I mean), especially when compared to the prices seen in the large chain stores.

…He offers a 100% Money Back Guarantee (it’s in plain view on the website). I also have it in writing on the invoice. Paul says that if we don’t get anything out of it, he doesn’t want anything out of it. He really does business the old fashioned way.

…Paul is a veteran that served our country in both Desert Storm and Desert Shield.

…You can learn more about Cost Plus, Paul, and his background at the following URLs:

…http://costplusmattress.com

…SOMETHING TO SLEEP ON: It’s Not the Name of the Mattress, But What Goes Into the Name That Counts

By the way, Paul didn’t ask (or even hint) for me to write a review for him. I’m doing it because I think he deserves it, and because more people should know where they can go to get a quality mattress from an honest, knowledgeable, family run business, at a very reasonable price.

I hope this helps someone else looking for a good mattress in Southern California.

Cheers,

Mike

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Hi Mike 949,

Congratulations on your new mattress :slight_smile:

Thanks also for such an in depth and detailed review. I also had a great conversation with Paul at Cost Plus and there is no doubt he is knowledgeable and focused on educating rather than “selling” his customers which is great to see. Besides the PLB latex lineup … he also carries Stress-O-Pedic and Kingdom mattresses which are both smaller regional brands with better than average value.

It was interesting as well because he comes from a family with a “history” of manufacturing mattresses and he told me he would like to one day go into making his own and he clearly has the knowledge to do a good job if he ever goes in this direction.

It’s typical that box springs are a little narrower and shorter than the standard mattress sizes so they can easily fit inside a metal frame or bed.

It’s great to see someone who does good research and ends up with a quality mattress that fits all the parts of their “value equation”!

Phoenix