Pure Talalay Bliss Beautiful

[phoenix]

Hi cschisler.

Welcome to our Mattress Forum!

We have decided we do want a latex mattress, but the cost is very high. We began researching and looking online for one similar to the Pure Talalay Bliss Beautiful which we really liked in the showroom, but the cost was prohibitive.

For your information, the specs of the Pure Talalay Bliss Beautiful that you are trying to approximate are:

[indent]3" 15 ILD Talalay
3" 24 ILD Talalay
6" 36 ILD Talalay
All blended Talalay from Talalay Global
Cover very flexible. Washable/Removable [/indent]

I have learned more about latex than I ever thought I would reading online for hours about it. We definitely would like to go that route and I have become more comfortable building the bed online, but I am still struggling with who to purchase it from and what is best for us. I am comfortable with combination of Talalay for the comfort layers and Dunlop for the core after researching, but don’t know the best combo.

Attempting to find something that is exactly the same is often a frustrating and futile exercise especially if you are trying to do this on your own. There is more information in post #9 here about the different ways that one mattress can “match” or “approximate” another one.

Every individual layer and component in a mattress (including the cover, FR barrier, any quilting material, and of course all foam layers) will affect the feel and response of every other layer and component both above and below it and the mattress “as a whole” so you would need to carefully asses the design and the specs of each mattress that uses exactly the same type of materials (Talalay in this case, blended) in order to determine if that the mattress in its entirety will be a good “match” for you in terms of “comfort”, firmness, and PPP(Posture and alignment, Pressure relief, and your Personal preferences) This is especially important when you are trying to approximate the mattress you are considering with others that use the same type of materials and components which may be just as durable but have a different design or firmness level that may be completely unsuitable for you to sleep on.

In building our own mattress and as you are considering Dunlop for the core layer instead of a Talalay core of the same ILD (which is what TB Beautiful has), I would keep in mind that this change may modify your experience and the feel of the mattress as a whole. Even though the materials themselves may have similar properties they are quite different in feel and firmness (for the same ILD) Dunlop and Talalay aren’t directly comparable in terms of firmness using only ILD numbers because there are several factors that can affect how soft or firm a mattress (or an individual layer) feels besides just the ILD of the material (see post #4 here ) and Dunlop and Talalay that are the same thickness and ILD won’t feel the same in terms of their firmness for most people because they have a different response curve and compression modulus (how quickly a material becomes firmer as you sink into it more deeply). There is more about the difference between Dunlop and Talalay in post #7 here .

The best you will hope for is to find something “in the range”, but realize that only your own careful personal testing or a detailed conversation with an experienced and knowledgeable manufacturer/retailer that has your best interests at heart will reveal whether or not the feel you are looking for is close to what your desires and needs.

This being said you seem to be on the right track by seeking guidance from an experienced manufacturer or retailer, who would be best resource to help you best approximate a mattress feel based on all the specs and your personal needs and preferences you may provide.

I see you have several online manufacturers you recommend. Is there a manufacturer who would be better able to advise us in selecting the layers than another? I want comfort and durability and i know our height and weight figure into that equation from what I’ve read. Your help would be appreciated.

At a quick glance below are some of our trusted members here who offer Latex & All Latex component system options or mattress options that you may wish to consider I finding an mattress constructions that can be twitched towards the feel of PTB. All these site members are very familiar with the PTB line and will be able to offer options that are similar to the Beautiful. They use high quality and durable materials and are extremely knowledgeable about latex and different configurations, and I would not hesitate to recommend them for your consideration.

Arizona Premium
FloBeds has a similar construction to PTB which uses 100% natural Talalay from Vita Talalay. Their top layer is convoluted, so this would conform very well but have a different feel than a solid sheet of latex.
Foam Sweet Foam The Beautiful does use blended Talalay and the FSF uses 100% natural Talalay, but it’s unlikely that you’ll feel much of a difference between the two.
Sleep EZ Factory having the option to rearrange layers is very attractive to many individuals and does give you more flexibility,
Spindle has a customizable option depending on your budget range

I’ll be interested in learning about any decisions that you make.

Phoenix