So far in our search the Nest Bedding Hybrid Latex (firm) seemed to be the the best box mattress for us that we’ve been able to try. I would much prefer a zoned coil layer instead and the Hybrid Slumber System seems like it would be perfect. All the mattress we’ve tried are either too firm, too soft, or both. We are both side and back sleepers (side primarily) and either our hips sag too much or our shoulders are crunched, so I really believe a zoned bed would help fix this issue. I am 5’9" 180lbs (M) and my partner is 5’5" 130lbs (F). I am curious since the Nest Bedding Hybrid Latex firm felt the best would you recommend trying the Hybrid Slumber System in a firm as well? Also compared to the Natural Latex Hybrid why does the Hybrid Slumber System have a 2’’ HD NRG Foam Transition Layer instead of latex? I see that the pillow top can be either Natural or Talalay Latex, what is the Natural and how do they compare, and which would you recommend? I appreciate the guidance.
Hello tomford4u,
Thank you for reaching out to Luma Sleep! The question of firmness comfort is one of personal choice, and it is impacted by not only your respective heights/weights and sleeping positions, but also your body shapes. The zoned coil system used in the Luma Sleep Hybrid Slumber system not only has 3 separate firmness zones, but is also firmer than the coil system used in the Luma Mattress and Natural Latex Hybrid Mattress. Luma Sleep uses Quantum Edge pocketed coil systems from Leggett & Platt. Our product testing found that using all (100% ) latex on top of the zoned coil system resulted in some hip related pressure points for many side sleepers. That was a key consideration in changing the mattress design to use 2" of NRG Transition poly-foam on top of the zoned coils with a 3" latex Pillow top layer above the base mattress in the Hybrid Slumber System.
To answer your question about comparability with the a firm Nest bedding Hybrid latex, the Nest design uses a quilted cover with a quilting foam which adds padding. This will create a different feel than any Luma Mattress product, as we do not quilt the cover nor use foam or wool as a pad between the fabric and the latex. Nest uses a Dunlop process latex which will also impact the mattress comfort/feel.
There is little/no comfort/feel difference between natural and blended latex. The feel difference comes from the process (Talalay vs. Dunlop) and the ILD. Talalay will be more supple/luxurious than Dunlop, which has a more dense/supportive foam cell structure; the feel difference is less pronounced the firmer (higher) the ILD range. The Talalay process generates a more consistent ILD from top to bottom of the molded core vs. Dunlop, as the Dunlop process results in the latex foam cells condensing slightly on the bottom of the mold/belt before the foam solidifies in the gelation/curing process. Talalay uses a vacuum process to fill the mold with latex foam more consistently from top to bottom and side to side. To clarify what this means, a 2" or 3" layers of Dunlop coming from a 28 ILD core will vary in the ILD more than 2" or 3" layers coming from a 28 ILD Talalay mold.
While a specific firmness recommendation is not practical as it is a personal preference, we have found that Talalay latex over Dunlop latex (whether either is 100% natural or a natural/synthesized latex blend) produces an excellent balance of comfort and support.
Hope this helps!
Team Luma
Thanks for this comparison! It’s one I’m curious about. How do the firmnesses of the Nest Latex Hybrid and the Luma Natural Latex Hybrid compare, especially in the springs?
Hello sweetandsourkiwi,
Thanks for reaching out to Luma Sleep! We have not conducted side-by-side comparisons to know precisely how the Luma Natural Latex Hybrid Mattress compares with the Nest Latex Hybrid. Our Natural Latex Hybrid as an additional 1" of latex. Nest has and eco-foam padding in the quilted cover. Both have multiple choices of comfort. Above all, with comfort being a personal choice, comparison judgement is ultimately the decision of the person comparing. One of the challenges of purchasing mattresses online vs. in a retail store is the inability to compare, even if it’s s very short-term (minutes) comparison.
Sorry we could not be of more help.
Team Luma