Royal-Pedic Mattress and other innercoil

[mike7]

@Phoenix

Hi Mike7,

I’m not sure why you are insisting on pursuing such an argumentative stance in the forum
Phoenix

Im arguing? lol I simply wanted to know if there were any companies that were deemed to have the same quality as the royalpedic— considering you have offered answers when asked about PLB Tempupedic and Beautyrest. And your response was argumentativie and personal. If you would have simply answered as daniel did then you would not get a response to your personal responses. Do you not understand this

@Phoenix

but this is not the place to push points, “prove” that your own personal opinions are “right” for others" or continue argue about what you are against or what you don’t like about anyone else’s approach to buying a mattress. The forum is to help you learn how to effectively buy a mattress that YOU consider to be good value.
Phoenix

What does this even mean??? not once have I asked anyone to tell me what mattress is right for me. My approach to others buying a mattress? huh? its as if you are reading things I dont post. doesnt that seem strange?

@Phoenix

Value itself has many components and is part of what I call each person’s “personal value equation”. This is the “value” of the complete mattress purchase (not just the mattress) and is unique to each person.
Phoenix

Value? You are easy to answer questions others ask regarding other brands, you state that you wouldnt purchase name brands and you state tempupedic is a good quality but poor VALUE. Now you insert it in my post?

@Phoenix

Part of this is the things you can feel (which I call PPP or Posture and alignment, Pressure relief, and Personal preferences). Note the “preferences” part which is subjective and relative to each person. No matter what the value of any other part of a purchase … if a mattress isn’t suitable for you to sleep on then no matter what its quality, price, or value by any other definition it would have little value to you.
Phoenix

Im not asking you what I would like! If you post daily about poor value why are you now claiming its a personal preference (reminds me of when you claim reviews dont matter and then tell every person who bought a mattress you look forward to their feedback)

@Phoenix

Part of this is the things you can’t feel which includes the type and quality/durability of the materials in the mattress the likely durability and useful life of the mattress as a whole, any weak links in the mattress, the “commodity value” of a mattress (such as 6" of latex would have higher “commodity value” than 3" of latex) and the material value of a mattress (such as 4" of 3 lb memory foam would have a lower material value than 4" of 5 lb memory foam).

Phoenix

Yes you have stated royal pedic has quality materials already thats why I asked if you know of any other brands that compare as you do with other brands.

@Phoenix

If you disagree with someone here (including me) then make your point and move on. Part of an “informed” and useful discussion is to also make your point about what you are “for” rather than only what you are against. Disagreement is part of every forum but pushing a point past certain limits is against the rules of the forum. You don’t need to be “right” … you need to be informed so you can learn how to make a choice that is best for you.
Phoenix

This is not the first time you have taken a simple question and pushed an argument and blamed others. Its very telling in my opinion. All of this because I mentioned royal pedic and simply asked for comparables. You dont even recognize your role in this argument almost as if you “bully” or incite and then blame the response. Disagree with what ? lol

@Phoenix

The “value” of a mattress purchase is up to YOU to decide and everything else and all the posts here are meant to help educate you so you can decide on the parts of your own personal value equation that are most important to you.
Phoenix

The value of a mattress purchase? you answer questions daily as to whether a mattress is of poor value and now its up to me?

If you are looking for a “foam free” mattress that is made of innersprings and natural fibers then in addition to the ones that Daniel mentioned there is a list in post #4 here that you may wish to consider but you would need to compare the specifics of each one based on your own personal criteria and things you have learned here to know which one would be the best value for you.

@Phoenix

The “material value” or the “commodity value” of a mattress is just one part of value and is one of the things that are mostly blind in the industry and the area of “value” that most people know the least about which is why there is a focus on materials in this forum. If you have one mattress that has 8" of latex with an organic cotton wool quilted cover and another that includes the same amount of the same type of latex with a similar cover and sells for twice the price then the second mattress would not have the same “commodity value” or “material value” as the first one but someone may just decide that the differences in the other parts of “value” make the second mattress better value for them. The different parts of value aren’t mutually exclusive.
Phoenix

This is getting ridiculous maybe you forgot your posts

“Tempurpedic is poor value compared to other similar mattresses”
"Pure Latex Bliss is owned by Latex International who makes the Talalay latex used by many manufacturers and is also uses high quality materials but are also not always in the “best value range”
“Both Novosbed and Christeli are on the list of better online memory foam manufacturers and retailers included in post #12 here which means that I would consider them among the better options available for an online purchase of a memory foam mattress in terms of transparency, quality, value, and service.”
"As you know I’m not a fan of thick memory foam mattresses (I don’t like the feeling of being “in” the mattress as much) or Tempurpedic (I wouldn’t buy any of their mattresses because of their poor value compared to others that are just as high quality or better) "

a post states

“We have tried the tempurpedic Mattresses however my husband is weary of the way you feel locked in, almost as if you cant turn or move around… He’s Also worried about the Mattress materials not lasting long?” your response
“the first place I would start your research is post #1 here which has all the basic information, steps, and guidelines that can help you make the best possible choices … and avoid the worst ones (that would include all of the mattresses you mentioned here or any other major brand or manufacturer that doesn’t disclose the quality of the materials that are inside their mattress or are poor value compared to other mattresses that use the same or higher quality materials).”

But when it comes to asking about royal pedic value is dependent on me??? How many times did you tel others about VALUE wow

I think we are done. You seem to be getting personal and contradicting yourself you cant even understand that you are the one arguing. I wanted to know if there were any comparable mattresses as you have pointed to with others and your first response was personal and seemingly contradictory and then blame me for responding to that. No need to respond again I have the list and will continue researching.