SavvyRest 7" Tranquility + topper vs. SleepEZ Natural 7000 + topper

[phoenix]

Hi KareninKC,

How does this type of layering, with the two 3 inch layers in the 7000, and the Talalay topper, compare to just getting the 10000 with three layers and (eventually) the topper?

I think that Sleep1’s description in the first post of the thread probably describes the effect of a topper vs the same layer inside the mattress as well as I could both in “theory” and in experience.

I ask because I have been leaning toward the Natural 10000 since that is closest to what I tried in the Savvy Rest. I tried the Organic Serenity 10" Dunlop mattress. I described the layers in my post, but they are Dunlop medium on the bottom, Dunlop soft, Dunlop soft. The mattress was $2,299, and Diane (who was nothing but nice–I’d love to buy from her but not at twice the price) at The Eagles Rest was going to give me a 10% locals discount, so $2,069. I think I said my estimate was about $2500 in my original post, but I was factoring in the Holy Lamb Topper for an additional $375.

I would also tend to stick with what you have tested and liked unless you are clear about the effects of any change you decide to make (and the best place to discuss this would be a live conversation with the manufacturer you are considering). If you talk with them and let them know what you tried they will be able to approximate it as close as the options they have available will allow (and they would be close). In most cases … 12" of latex wouldn’t be necessary for anyone that wasn’t in say the higher 200 lb or 300 lb range. There is more about the effects of a thicker mattress and some of the reasons people may choose it in post #14 here.

After a little more research and reading on this website, my plan was to purchase the Sleep EZ Natural 10000 now, and then maybe, at a later date, get the Talalay Topper, since that is what I tried and loved at the store. Of course Savvy Rest’s price for their 4 inch Talalay topper is $1,500, and Sleep EZ’s 3 inch is $500 for the 100% natural Talalay. At Eagles Rest, I settled for the Holy Lamb topper–not a bad choice, still nice–and a savings of about $600 from their Talalay topper (hope I’m not confusing anyone!). Sleep EZ is obviously a better economic choice.

The Savvy Rest topper has 3" of latex and the rest is wool. SleepEz has a similar topper (see Sleepy1’s comment in the first post of this thread as well).

Would my results be similar if I order the 7000 with Dunlop medium on the bottom, Dunlop soft on the top, then the Talalay topper? I think the price for that set up would be close to the price for the 10000 by itself, no topper. Or, maybe it would even be wise to go firm on the bottom, medium in the middle and then the Talalay topper. Or should I just stick with the Sleep EZ 10000 described above and get that topper at a later date?

This would be different because of the different type of latex used in the top layer. Dunlop feels a little firmer in the same ILD and Talalay is a little more “lively”. A topper would also change the feel slightly vs the same layers inside the cover. Again though … I would spend some time on the phone with Shawn because you will gain much more insight into the effects of the changesyou are considering with a “live” back and forth conversation with a knowledgeable person than you will with more “theoretical” exchange on the forum. Nothing will replace or give you better information than a live conversation with the manufacturer of a mattress you are considering.

I have to add that I am a combination sleeper. I spend most of my time on my side, but I shift to my stomach as well, which makes mattress testing/purchasing difficult. I know I also spend a small amount of time on my back. I would love to stop shifting to my stomach, but after 44 years of life this probably isn’t going to happen. The side sleeping could be why I liked/needed the softer Dunlop medium on the bottom as opposed to a Dunlop firm for pressure points (shoulder and hip); however, I’m sure I couldn’t go all soft because of the stomach sleeping. I’m 5’2" and fluctuate (frustratingly) between 135 and 145 pounds, so I’m not huge (don’t know if that knowledge helps).

I would question the use … or the potential “risk” of two soft layers on top or your mattress (and I’m guessing Shawn would as well) particularly if you spend time on your stomach. At worst if the mattress you end up with needs a little fine tuning then it’s not difficult to add a thinner topper as fine tuning to a mattress that is already very close to your needs and preferences. A thicker softer topper added to a mattress that is close to what you need may have more alignment risk for sleeping positions other than your side.

This is not easy!

I certainly understand this but it will be easier and you will gain more confidence with a live conversation that can go “back and forth” more easily than forum posts.

Phoenix