Sourcing Memory Foam (or even Serene Foam)

[datrumole]

[quote=“phoenix post=93305”]Hi datrumole,

It’s worth mentioning that foam costs in the industry, in general, are steadily increasing and make buying larger stocks of material increasingly difficult thus many retailers/manufacturers are scaling down and carrying just the “basic necessities” avoiding keeping a more diverse inventory of specialty foams and products in their inventory. Some foams and products, you could find two months ago are not available any longer or are replaced by different types, specifications, or offered at steeper prices.
This said as you go through narrowing down a vendor, I’d keep in mind that you may need higher density memory foam depending on your BMI, mattress thickness, and the foam’s application within a finished mattress (top comfort and cradling, or additional sink and comfort under an existing top layer of preference, etc)

www.foambymail.com/ and The Foam Factory, Mattresses, Memory Foam Toppers - they seem to carry essentially all the same products

You are correct that Foam By Mail is also known as Foam Factory see the recent posts 8-10 here.: Memory Foam Mattress Toppers | Foam Factory, Inc. they have 3, 4, and 5 lbs/culft Memory Foam selection and I could also find them on the CertiPUR certified list of participating companies.

Mattress Topper | Tempur-Pedic Products & Accessories | Tempur-Pedic - seem to be what is in their mattress? not sure what density they are

As you are aiming for 2" in thickness I would not trust anything for which you do not know the foam density.

Memory Foam - Oklahoma Mattress Company - they are the only vendor I saw on the preferred list who sell memory foam toppers, had to call to get prices, but they sell 4lb memory foam for a reasonable price

Good find! Both on quality and value. I’d stick with them if you are in the normal BMI ranges for the reasons I mentioned at the beginning of my response.

Another supplier Foam Source in Boulder CO has Memory Foam available. I called and spoke with Rhonda (the owner) about their Custom Foam orders. The existing MF at the moment they have only 3.5 lbs/cuft. She explained that what they have in stock changes over time and they offer different densities at different times. I asked why they have only one type of Memory Foam available for their custom foam ordering listing. She mentioned that the steep increase in price makes it prohibitive to order stock to keep on hand for eventual consumer purchase. I am guessing that this is the case with many other foam retailers/mattress manufacturers that sell DIY components.

i stumbled upon ‘serene foam’ as well: Serene Foam Mattress Topper not too sure what that is all about. claims to be the best of memory foam without the heat

Good quality but Serene is one of the new generation high-performance polyurethane foams produced by Carpenter (see other foams Carpenter offers here. Serene does not have any of the viscous properties of memory foam (it is not a memory foam and It is also not a latex foam). Carpenter introduced Serene in 2015 and re-launched it in 2016. It is generally a higher density (2.5 lbs as an example) and it is CertiPUR-US certified. This generally would be a good quality and durable plush material. However, it is not technically a high-resilience foam, as that would require a 2.5 density or above, along with a compression modulus of 2.4 or above.

While not a trusted member, Foam Order also has a variety of memory foam densities and thicknesses available. You may want to call and ask them where are sourcing their foam from to make sure that the foam did not stay in transit or storage for longer than normal periods of time.
Foamite in Canada also has 45 grades of foam that you may want to have a look at. (see attachment)

In terms of other producers and foam suppliers, you can always look into some directory listings to identify a few and email or make a few phone calls to try to find out who they supply to and follow it up from there.
• CertiPUR has a list of certified Foam Producers that you can look through.
• IQS Directory (industrial Quick search of manufacturer directory) provides an extensive list of foam fabricating companies and suppliers. ~ https://www.iqsdirectory.com directory
• Foam Fabricating

Wisconsin Foam Products is also a top producer of flexible foam solutions for the bedding industry among many others. .
FXI’s Memory Foams and PU foams certainly skyrocketed with a substantial ripple effect among their manufacturer customer base but you can try to see if they’d give you a few companies that they supply with memory foam.

Let us know if you find additional sources worth mentioning
Phoenix[/quote]

thanks Phoenix, stellar post as always

one place i looked at initially and for some reason just completely missed was Brooklyn Bedding under their ‘https://mattresstopper.com/’ site offering both the 2.5 and 4lb weights

seems like tempurpedic had a killer topper in their supreme, but it’s been reformulated and phase out, many suspect its closer to a 3lb foam these days compared to the high densities tempurpedic was known for

i guess since there can be such a variety of variance, the only thing left to do is order up and see what the back agrees with. plan to grab both 2" and 3" just in case as i’m curious to the effect the thickness has on it as i’ve been able to test that out with latex. the key for me here is to get back to being able to be flat with such varying weights across my body