I still don’t have a spec. sheet but i know now that the heigt of the swiss foam is 17cm (6.7 inch) and the technogel is 5cm (2 inch) for a total height of 24cm (9.4 inch). In the Aqua model the gel is on the whole surface so also for the foots. I’m waiting infos about the density …
So no spec. sheet for the swiss Aqua Technogel mattresses but i’ve got the density : 50 kg/m3. I hope this info is correct … It’s a 7 zones mattress with 10 years warranty (prorata temporis start the 2nd year). I understand now that the gel make minimum the 50% of the price of this mattress. So the question is can this gel, with a “standard” (good) foam, make an high end mattress like a Tempura for example ? I’m not an heavy person (158 lb) and i don’t have any back pain and i don’t want to get back pain. I will have the possibility to compare the Technogel Aqua with some Visco Tempura mattress next week (in the same shop) but i don’t know if it’s a good start for a comparison …
Hi NRJ,
This is 3.1lb / cu. ft. and if this is one of the polyfoam layers then it’s a good quality material. I would want to know the details of all the layers though (the layer thickness and density of each layer from top to bottom).
That would really depend on the specifics of each layer and perhaps most importantly on how well it matches your needs and preferences in terms of PPP. I wouldn’t consider either of them to be particularly good value from a materials point of view and all manufacturers (including Tempurpedic) have mattresses that use lower and higher quality materials. The brand doesn’t determine the quality of a mattress … only the construction and the materials inside it.
Before buying any mattress I would make sure that there are no potential weak links or lower quality or less durable materials in the mattress that can affect it’s useable life relative to your body type and the only way to do this is by making sure that you know the details of every layer in a mattress. Price alone doesn’t determine a high end mattress and there are many very costly mattresses that are anything but high quality or good value.
If you can list all the details of a mattress that you are considering I’d be happy to make more specific comments about the quality of any of the materials which may help you make better comparisons but without this you would be making a blind purchase.
Phoenix
I want to give you more information but the swiss importer (or fabriquant) don’t give me much informations … Only a pdf that you can see …
I can’t even find a side picture of the foam mattress …
I will try one more time tomorow …
Hi NRJ,
Unfortunately the PDF doesn’t include the specs of the materials.
I have a similar PDF which has similar generic information (although it’s in English) but also lists the specific layers and density information of some of their mattresses that are sold in North America so hopefully they will have this available there as well.
Phoenix
I also found the 2011 or 2012 model. This time it’s not Evopore HRC but Visco memory foam http://www.eurofoam.co.rs/ENGLESKI/EurofoamViscoline.htm
This one is no more on the swiss technogel web site but still sell … I have attached the PDF i found … This one is 300USD cheaper than the Aqua model and it’s 23 cm height.
I really don’t know the diffence between Evopore and Visco … If they stop the model there is maybe a good reason …
Hi NRJ,
EvoPure is polyfoam which is a more resilient fast response material that is not temperature sensitive and visco memory foam is a slow response, low resilience, temperature sensitive material. Polyfoam and memory foam come in different density ranges.
Some comments about the density specs they mention on the site you linked …
40 kg / M3 is 2.5 lbs / cu ft which is low quality/density memory foam.
50 kg / m3 is 3.1 lbs / cu ft which is also low quality/density.
60 kg / m3 is 3.75 lb / cu ft which is just below the lower end of medium quality/density.
The most durable memory foams start at about 5 lbs / cu ft which is about 80 kg / m3
I would suggest avoiding anything less than about 4 lbs or so in a mattress unless it is only around an inch or so or less of lower quality/density materials or unless you are in very low budget ranges or the mattress is for more temporary use where durability is much less of an issue.
Phoenix
That clear no Visco.
Now i got some news but not about the Aqua model, it’s about the “classic” model that same to be one made in the same time as the Visco one. This one is with Evopore but not HRC. They give me a PDF where you can see all layers … I don’t know why they didn’t give me that for the Aqua model …
I’ve got the picture for the Aqua model and here is how the Mattress compose :
Down (beige): foam 40 kg / M3
Middle (blue): EvoPore HRC 50 kg / M3
Up (black): EvoPore HRC 50 kg / M3
Upper up (blue) Technogel
So what do you think ? Good value for the money ? The importer say to me a big yes … Can i count with 15 years (minimum) of tranquility with this mattress ?
1 last question would you also buy a Technogel Pillow ? I ask you the question because the gel is all over the Mattress so also for the head.
One more time thanks a lot for all your help !!!
Hi NRJ,
Thanks for the picture and the specs.
If these specs are correct it would certainly be a very durable mattress although it’s not possible to put a specific number of years on a mattress because the useful life of a mattress is relative to each person and the affect that foam softening will have on their comfort and alignment (see post #4 here and the posts it links to)
I have no knowledge of the European market in terms of pricing so in terms of cost or material value I really don’t know but if the mattress is a good match for your personal value equation and compares well to other mattresses that would be similar in terms of PPP and durability then it would certainly be worth serious consideration.
Phoenix
Perfect thanks a lot for your help !
Now i need to test it and choice the right one but i think that will be a firm one.
I will let you know next week.
Hi NRJ,
You’re very welcome … and you did a great job tracking down the specs of all the layers 
I’m looking forward to hearing about your final choice.
Phoenix
I forgot 1 thing … Can you negociate the price of a Technogel Mattresses ? Or maybe have a free Technogel Pillow ? What do you think, 10% + a Pillow is that possible ?
Hi NRJ,
I don’t know what the Technogel pricing policies are but it certainly wouldn’t hurt to ask ("what’s the best you can do?) or make an offer. It would help to have another mattress as a reference point that also used high quality materials (such as latex) that is a lower price that you can use as a reference point but the Technogel is somewhat unique so there wouldn’t really be any apples to apples comparisons.
Phoenix
I’m back from my Technogel trip and guess what … I’m the new owner of a Technogel 7cm Contour Pillow … The Technogel Aqua (firm) Mattress will be on the road to my home by the end of next week. No negociation at all … :blink: I’ve got the Pillow for free and the delivery cost. That something like 15-20% discount … I’m happy … I will let you know when i tested for 1-2 nights the mattress.
Thanks one more time for your precious help and have a nice sunday !!!
Hi NRJ,
Congratulations on your new mattress
Sometimes the “bonuses” that a retailer provides with a mattress is another version of a “discount” that is the best they can do if the mattress has controlled pricing (and many specialty mattresses do).
I’m looking forward to your feedback when you’ve received it and have had the chance to sleep on it for a bit.
Phoenix
Hello, i know i said 1-2 days but now it’s 1-2 month … I need time to really appreciate this mattress. So what can i say ? 1st think i notice is that i wake up earlier from the 1st day i use it maybe 10-20 minutes earlier. I use a “dawn simulator”, i wake up normally without any pain but earlier. 2nd when you go to bed you notice right away the freshness of the mattress and pillow thanks to the gel ! The heat is very well conducted. 3rd it’s a very heavy mattress not easy to move it every day. When i tested it on the shop the firm version was on a new bed frames, so for me it was not to firm. At home i have an old (20 years) wooden bed frames that was designed for a child use so my weight + the mattress it’s too much for him i think. So now i will search a new bed frames but i don’t know if i should take a classic one or a new like this one. What do you think ? Which one could be the best to have my couch a little bit firmless ?
I really love this mattress so he deserve to have the right bed frame.
Let me know what do you think.
Hi NRJ,
Both of these can be adjusted for firmness in various areas under the mattress to fine tune the mattress so if that would be something that you would find useful then they would both make good choices. They both have some additional flex under the mattress so they may change how the mattress feels and performs compared to what you have now or what you tested the mattress on in the showroom.
If your mattress is already a good match for you and doesn’t need any further fine tuning then it may be less costly to use a rigid slatted base that provides firm non flexing support under your mattress but can’t be adjusted.
If you think you would benefit from the more flexible and adjustable base in terms of PPP … then one of these could be a good choice.
Both of them also have the ability to adjust their positions which can also be a useful option either for sleeping or as a convenience for watching TV, reading, or working in bed (see post #3 here about adjustable beds).
Ultimately it would be a choice based on your preferences and the importance of being able to do some fine tuning to your sleeping system.
Phoenix
As i said my mattress is a little bit too firm so i think using this one will help me.
http://www.komfort-wohnen.ch/home/fr/index.php?s=sommieratassedeluxe
Price is 400USD with 5 years warranty.
Thanks a lot for your help, i will let you know after some weeks of test with this new frame.
Hi NRJ,
While I’m not familiar with pricing in Europe … it certainly sounds like a good value option to me.
Phoenix