The 10 in. Tuft & Needle Diary

Hi nes1984,

Congratulations on your new mattress :slight_smile:

I’m looking forward to your feedback once you receive it and have had the chance to sleep on it for a bit.

Phoenix

I have been lurking on this website for a few weeks now, and I am truly impressed by the wealth of knowledge and friendliness. Like many others in this post, I too am buying the Tuft & Needle and can’t wait to try it out. I will be sure to provide an update once I have it.

Don

Hi TheDon,

I’m glad you found us as well … and that the site could help you.

Congratulations on your new mattress :slight_smile:

I’m looking forward to your feedback when you receive it!

Phoenix

As promised, I’m back to report on how the new mattress is working out…

We’ve had it for about 3 weeks now, and it has been absolutely fantastic. We adjusted the foam layers on the day we bought it, and haven’t had to make any more adjustments since then. We did buy a breathable mattress protector from amazon. We also have a heated mattress pad that works fine with the foam.

As some others have mentioned on here, the quality of the foam and the mattress case itself are really impressive. Way better than what you would expect for $400. We have slept wonderfully on the bed, and so far we are extremely satisfied with our purchase. I don’t think we will ever go back to a spring mattress again.

I was on the fence about whether to get this mattress or not, but I’m so glad I did!

Hi akdem,

Thanks for the update and feedback … I appreciate it :slight_smile:

It’s great to see that things worked out so well for you.

Phoenix

I am very grateful to have found this site. I was already set upon purchasing the king 12 in 1 from Amazon after the move into our new home next month. I was just doing some additional reading on this mattress to solidify my feelings that I was making the correct purchase when I stumbled upon this site.
By reading this thread I found out I could purchase the king on their site instead of Amazon and use the coupon from their Facebook page. I was prepared to pay $873 (bed/tax). I ended up getting it for $449!
I’m beyond thrilled!!

Hi suezyque,

[quote]By reading this thread I found out I could purchase the king on their site instead of Amazon and use the coupon from their Facebook page. I was prepared to pay $873 (bed/tax). I ended up getting it for $449!
I’m beyond thrilled!! [/quote]

Welcome to the Mattress Forum! … and I’m sure glad you found us before pulling the trigger on your Amazon purchase!

Congratulations on your new mattress … and I think you made a great quality/value choice :slight_smile:

I’m looking forward to your feedback as well once you receive it and have had the chance to sleep on it for a bit.

Phoenix

I too am very thankful for all of these posts. I’ve been doing a lot of research on this site for several months, and am putting aside my concerns about the mattress being too firm for side sleepers. Am thrilled by the mattress not needing fire retardants, being low-voc, and US made.

Also, I told my friend about the company, and he’s thrilled with the mattress! So I’m ordering one up!

Many thanks,
Emily

Hi emilychapman,

Welcome to the Mattress Forum! … and congratulations on your new mattress :slight_smile:

I’m looking forward to your feedback once you’ve received it and have had the chance to sleep on it for a bit.

Phoenix

This bed sure seems different. Its just 3 layers of foam and thats it?

Hi Del,

There are three types of “foam” materials which are polyfoam, memory foam, and latex foam. The 12 in 1 customizable has three layers of 2 lb polyfoam which is a good quality and durable material. The layers are firm, medium, and soft and each side of the cover has a different quilting pattern (one is a tighter and firmer quilt and the other is a looser and softer quilt) so by rearranging the layers or using one side of the cover or the other as your sleeping surface there are 12 possible combinations that you can use to fine tune the mattress after you receive it so that it’s the best possible match for you in terms of PPP (Posture and alignment, pressure relief, and Personal preferences). Most “foam” mattresses (regardless of whether they are latex, polyfoam, or memory foam) are generally either two or three layers of foam (of the same or different types of foam) although a few have only one and a few have more.

Phoenix

[quote=“Phoenix” post=43764]Hi Del,

There are three types of “foam” materials which are polyfoam, memory foam, and latex foam. The 12 in 1 customizable has three layers of 2 lb polyfoam which is a good quality and durable material. The layers are firm, medium, and soft and each side of the cover has a different quilting pattern (one is a tighter and firmer quilt and the other is a looser and softer quilt) so by rearranging the layers or using one side of the cover or the other as your sleeping surface there are 12 possible combinations that you can use to fine tune the mattress after you receive it so that it’s the best possible match for you in terms of PPP (Posture and alignment, pressure relief, and Personal preferences). Most “foam” mattresses (regardless of whether they are latex, polyfoam, or memory foam) are generally either two or three layers of foam (of the same or different types of foam) although a few have only one and a few have more.

Phoenix[/quote]

Ah. Didnt realize there were 3. Just thought there was latex and memory foam. I thought there would have been a few inches of base to this, which is why i was confused. Like the base then the 3 interchangeable layers. Just seems a fear I would have is the casing itself becoming loose over time or just not being as “tight” as a normal factory built mattress. How is polyfoam different from mem and latex?

Hi Del,

This normally wouldn’t be an issue with a good quality tight fitting cover but you can see some of the pros and cons of a component mattress vs a “finished” mattress with a tape edged cover and glued layers in post #15 here.

There is more information about polyfoam comfort layers in this article and about polyfoam support layers in this article. Polyfoam is the most common foam material used in the industry and it’s the material that you will most commonly find in the comfort layers of most innerspring mattresses (although they are generally lower quality and less durable versions of polyfoam than the 12 in 1 customizable mattress is using) and is the material that you will also find in most sofas as well. It is generally a lower cost foam compared to specialty foams like memory foam or latex although it comes in a wide rage of firmness levels and foam densities that are more or less durable and have a wide range of different properties.

There is more about latex comfort layers here and latex support layers here and there is more about the pros and cons of latex in this article. There is also more about the different types and blends of latex in post #6 here.

There is more about memory foam comfort layers here but you won’t find memory foam in the deeper support layers because it doesn’t come in versions that would be firm enough. There is also more about the pros and cons of memory foam in this article and more about the many different types of memory foam in post #9 here and in post #8 here.

There is also a comparison between the pros and cons of latex vs memory foam in post #2 here (polyfoam would be closer to latex in terms of “feel” because it’s also a fast response material).

Post #4 here also includes the foam quality guidelines I would suggest (along with the post about higher weight ranges I linked in an earlier reply).

The best way to know for certain which types of materials or mattresses you tend to prefer or that would at least be “acceptable” to you in terms of their general “feel” would be based on your own personal testing or sleeping experience.

Phoenix

This thread has sold us. We’ll be ordering the king-sized 10.

Hello,
We received our tuft and needle 10in king on Oct 2. Last night was the 11th night on it. I thought I would love this mattress and that there was a slight possibility that my husband would find it too firm. Alas, he has had no problem with it until last night when his hand got numb. I, on the other hand, have gotten progressively more miserable. I believe the first 3-4 nights were adjustment to the new mattress. I had upper back and shoulder soreness which I think came from the corrective nature of good support. Since then I have had pain/extreme tightness in my right hip and leg as well as lingering shoulder soreness.
I have discovered that I am predominately a side sleeper.
I believe that I need more pressure relief and I’ve been combing this site on toppers. Specifically, latex toppers. After two days of research and increasing dislike of the the bed, I am leaning toward wanting a bed that works as is. I am leaning toward a Dreamfoam 12 in 1 or the Dreamfoam Freedom latex.
My husband and I thought we preferred a firm mattress. I believe we still do, but the Tuft and Needle might just be more firm than we bargained for. My husband is 300lb and 6’2’ and I am 145lbs and 5’4’. Because of my husbands weight, I know we need a bed with a very good quality core such as 2lb polyfoam or higher ILD latex. We did lay on a bed in a store that was a Novopure with 1.5in Talalay latex on the the top. We thought it was nice and firm compared to a Novopure with 3in Talalay which we thought would be too cushy and not supportive. This was before we found this site.

Would the 12 in 1 be too soft? Would the Freedom be appropriate? I realize that the Freedom is double the cost of the 12 in 1. If we can be happy in a mattress that would cost us less we would prefer it, but if what made us happy is more then we can swing $1000.

Also wanted to add that my husband is also mostly a side sleeper.

Hi Petro,

Assuming you decide to pull the trigger … congratulations on your new mattress :slight_smile:

@ wookiesleeps,

Based on your comments it certainly seems like your mattress is too firm for you.

As you mentioned … you really have two options which are adding a topper or returning the mattress.

If you do decide to go in the topper direction then post #2 here and the topper guidelines it links to can help you make the best possible topper choice. Because of the differences in your weight … it may also be worth considering a topper that is the same height but a different firmness level on each side.

Post #3 here and the posts it links to have more information about choosing a mattress for higher body weights that may be helpful in choosing a mattress that would be suitable for your husband (or for couples that have a large difference in their body types).

Both the 12 in 1 customizable mattress (that uses 2 lb polyfoam) and the Freedom mattress (that uses synthetic latex) use good quality and durable materials that would be suitable for your husbands weight in terms of durability but when you can’t test a mattress in person then I would make sure that you have a more detailed conversation with a knowledgeable and experienced manufacturer about your comfort choices because they will know more about their own mattresses and be a much more reliable source of guidance about “matching” their mattresses to different body types, sleeping styles, and preferences based on “averages” than anyone else (see mattress firmness/comfort levels in post #2 here).

A soft layer that would be suitable for most body types may be too soft for your husband especially and may be more risky in terms of alignment and it may be worth asking them about adding an additional firmer layer (medium or firm) to your purchase so in addition to the different combinations that are possible with both mattresses you can also experiment with replacing the soft layer with something firmer.

Phoenix

I placed my order immediately after posting in this thread. (I wanted the TMU discount!)

I’m impressed - my new mattress will arrive on Thursday. They’ve really cut the lead time down on orders in the past few months.

I’ll be sure to report back with our experiences when it arrives.

Hi Petro,

I’m looking forward to your feedback when you’ve received it and have had the chance to sleep on it for a bit.

Phoenix

Thanks for this thread. Think I’m about to go for the 5 inch!

Hi paperhouse,

Assuming you decide to pull the trigger … congratulations on your new mattress :slight_smile:

I hope you have the chance to share your comments and feedback when you receive it.

Phoenix