The 10 in. Tuft & Needle Diary

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Poiyo,

We just passed the third week on the Tuft and Needle, and it’s only been in the last 2 to 3 days that I haven’t smelled the odor of the mattress when getting into bed. Days 3 and 4 of the mattress, the odor was the strongest for us. One thing I did the first week was walk on the mattress, take off all bedding during the day to air out, and had a fan blowing over the surface. I’m pretty sensitive to smells, and I think you will notice a diminishing smell over the next week. Tuft and Needle said for most people, the odor goes away between one and two weeks.

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Caldwa,

I am glad to hear that Casper was responsive. My friend who decided to return her Casper said the same. Interesting to hear that they are designing their own topper. I wonder what material it will be made of.

I personally find the Casper and Tuft and Needle feel very different, even though they are both foam, I prefer the TN. But I was only on the Casper about 30 min.

Please post a review of your impressions after getting the TN, I’ll be curious what you think!

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Hi poiyo,

Thanks for taking the time to share your comments and feedback about the Tuft & Needle Five … I appreciate it :slight_smile:

Phoenix

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sheep123,

Thanks for the tips! I’ll try taking the bedding off during the day so air can circulate a bit easier.

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Reporting back on my T&N 10 inch king mattress after 3 nights of use.

Before I get into the mattress, I have to comment on the shipping. The box seemed okay, but was literally broken in half. It looked like 2 boxes were put on each end of the mattress, with a 1-2 inch gap in the middle where the box broke the entire way around. The FedEx guy was blase’ about it, shrugged, and asked if I wanted to decline. I inspected the mattress before signing and there wasn’t any damage. I feel the packaging was definitely sub par.

Now, on to the mattress itself…

Heavy and cumbersome. Moving it in to my bedroom solo was a pain. It wasn’t so much the weight, but the shape and weight distribution. Inflated to full size in 10-20 seconds.

Night 1 - Enormous difference from our pillowtop, nationwide chain brand (can’t recall). Very firm. I can’t believe this is the new, softer version and that there was a more firm version. Wow. This is not a complaint though, we both loved how firm it is. We both had a disruptive night, tossing and turning constantly. Woke up feeling tired, we definitely noticed the sleep loss. No smell noticed.

Night 2 - Much better this night. It’s obvious both of our bodies are adjusting from 6 years of sleeping on a horrible mattress. At a weight of 230-240, and being 6’2, the mattress barely dips down when I lay on it. Tossed and turned a little, but far better than the first night. No smell noticed.

Night 3 - Arrived home in the evening to find our cat had gotten sick on our sheets. Luna mattress protector did it’s job and nothing penetrated to the mattress. When removing the sheets and mattress protector, I could definitely smell the odor coming from the mattress. I’m kind of curious if I should be letting it breathe more, but I didn’t see anything from T&N about that being needed. Put on some new flannel sheets I had ordered for the new bed (-8 out last night, sigh) and had the most amazing night of sleep I’ve had since I could remember. My body seems to have adjusted a bit to the mattress. I’m noticing much less back/neck pain. My girlfriend says hers has diminished to almost nothing, and she’s completely in love with the mattress. I don’t think I’ve ever been on a mattress and felt all of the muscles in my back scream out in ecstasy. It appears my back has gone a long time laying in beds that don’t let it relax like it should. Quite the experience/feeling.

All in all, very happy with the purchase so far. I’m interested to see just how broken in this mattress gets, and what changes will take place, because I’m very happy with it how it is currently. While this level of firm may not be for everyone, it’s definitely a mattress I will likely be suggesting to those I know that end up in the market.

I feel like an idiot for not doing proper research when we bought our previous mattress, wasting all of that money.

I’ll post again after a bit more time.

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Hi sdotlow,

Thanks for the detailed comments and feedback … I appreciate it :slight_smile:

It’s also good to see that your adjustment period is going fairly quickly

Any odor will go away on its own without doing anything special but there are some suggestions in post #3 here (particularly the first two) that may speed up the process.

Phoenix

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sdotlow-

We are just over 3 weeks on the new 10" tuft and needle.

Like you, the odor of the foam was barely there the first two nights. Day 3 and 4 the odor was the strongest. Still had a slight odor up until a few nights ago, but now I get into bed and don’t detect anything. The first week, I kept the bedding off during the day, walked on the surface to help break the foam in, and placed a fan on the surface. I’m a little sensitive to smells, so it may not bother other people as much.

Tuft and Needle said, and I found this to be true, that the mattress takes a couple or few days to warm up because it’s been on a cold truck, and when it warms up, it softens a bit. It has continued to soften over the past 3 weeks, but in a good way, not in a bad way. For us, the support is still there, just the foam is not quite as “stiff”.

We’re sleeping pretty well too. The first week we tossed and turned a bit too, but week 3, going into week 4, we are sleeping more soundly.

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Hi all. A lot of great info here. Thanks to all.
I thought I would let people in on something I discovered after talking to T&N.
Currently Amazon is only selling the 5" version and listing the 10" as not available. Per the rep I spoke to this will be rectified by approximately the end of January. It all has to do with the new style mattress.
If I buy this mattress it will be through Amazon due to their financing option if you have their Store card. At this price point I believe its 12 months 0 % interest. (Used this card a lot over the 3 years I have had it :lol: )

They also confirmed that anything Amazon sells is going to be the new style only.

Keith

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Hi kiphoto7,

Thanks for the heads up :slight_smile:

Phoenix

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Thanks everyone for their posts here. I found this forum after Tuft and Needle pointed me towards it during a chat support session. We are returning our Stearns and Foster Emelia Rose Lux after about 40 days. The smell was initially almost unbearable. And strangely the mattress feels more firm on one side over the other. Luckily a friend told us about Tuft and Needle so we’re going to give it a shot and hopefully it works out. I found out that their return policy is also really great…instead of shipping it back, they work with you to donate it to a local charity and they issue you a refund with proof of the donation receipt. How awesome is that?

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Hi mo9090x,

As you know I think highly of Tuft and Needle and they are certainly a good quality/value choice (especially with their new design … see posts #2 and #6 in this topic.

Congratulations on your new mattress :slight_smile:

This would be true with almost every mainstream mattress you can buy or any mattress that is made one sided (including the Tuft & Needle) because the bottom layers are firmer for support and aren’t designed to sleep on and the upper layers are softer for “comfort” (they don’t have layers that are designed to sleep on on both sides of the mattress).

Phoenix

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Lol, what I meant was on the same side the left and right feel like different a firmness. Not sure if it’s our imagination but overall we don’t like the mattress enough to keep it. The price was steep too (compared to Tuft and Needle) at 2300+.

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Hi mo9090x,

Oops … I thought you meant top and bottom :slight_smile:

Either way though … the Tuft & Needle you purchased is a much better quality/value choice than any of the major brand mattresses!

Phoenix

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anyone have detailed stats on this mattress in addition to it been 2lb of polyfoam? anyone know the ild(ifd) and all those other things phoenix always mentions like sag factor etc.

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Hi domaignew,

I don’t think that knowing the ILD/IFD of the individual layers in the 12 in 1 would really have any “real life” meaning to you anyway because with polyfoam ILD/IFD is only one of several specs that affect how soft or firm a polyfoam layer will feel (see post #4 here) and it also doesn’t compare to the ILD/IFD of other types of foam like latex or even other types of polyfoam (the same ILD in both would have different firmness levels) so it really wouldn’t tell you anything about how soft or firm any of the individual layers or any of the layer combinations will feel to you anyway.

These are specs that would only have meaning to someone that was very experienced with many different types of foam materials and familiar with what they mean or “feel like” in their own actual “real life” experience and it’s much simpler to make your choices based on more detailed conversations with a knowledgeable retailer or manufacturer who can describe their mattresses in ways that would make more sense to you rather than using specs that have little meaning by themselves.

There is more about the different ways to make the most suitable mattress choice (either locally or online) and how to identify and minimize the risks involved with each of them in post #2 here and trying to make your firmness choice based on these types of specs will probably do more to confuse you than to help and would be among the least reliable and most risky ways to choose a mattress.

Phoenix

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Just an update regarding the 10" from Amazon. It is completely gone from the site now?? I was told two different stories when i called them over the last month so I contacted them by email a couple of days ago.

Here’s the conversation.

Hi. I have called on a couple of occasions inquiring if Amazon was going to be carrying your 10" mattress again. The first time the answer was a pretty clear no. (that was about 4 weeks ago) The second time (10 days ago) I was told that it was just a temporary situation due to your new mattress design and that in approximately 1 month they would have it. As of today Amazon is no longer even listing the 10 inch. Prior to this it was listed and it stated that they were just temporarily out and it could be ordered and shipped when they got new stock. Its important to me to know if they are indeed going to be selling it again as I would prefer to purchase it from them due to financing terms. (I don’t mind waiting) If they are for sure not going to have it I will move on and buy another bed from them or wait until I can afford to purchase it directly from your site. Thank you. Keith L

And their response.
Hi Keith,

I am very sorry about the confusion around amazon and if they will have the 10 or not. We are having issues on our side with amazon and the whole process. The 10 will be on amazon at some point, and we shooting for the end of the month, but I can’t make any promises. I understand the need for financing through amazon and I hope that once you do order the bed, you will like it. Please let us know if you need anything else.

Thanks and again sorry about the confusion.

Stephen S

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Hi klphoto,

Thanks for sharing their comments about the availability of their mattresses on Amazon … I appreciate it :slight_smile:

Phoenix

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thanks. i was just hoping that using this information i could find something locally to test

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Hi domaignew,

There is more about the different ways that one mattress can compare with or “approximate” another one in post #9 here but I doubt that you would be able to find a local mattress that was “close enough” in its specific design to be able to use it as a reliable reference point unless they can tell you about another mattress that they are familiar with that would be somewhat similar to one of the configurations of the Freedom mattress when you talk with them on the phone.

Phoenix

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Just ordered the 10 inch today. Been sleeping on a mattress that I inherited around 10 years ago that’s probably at least 20 years old by now. I have some nagging lower back problems and am hoping I will notice a huge difference. Appreciate all the info here and will post my experiences soon.