Hi Porkroll,
I’m glad you found us … and congratulations on your new mattress 
I’m looking forward to your feedback when you receive it.
Phoenix
I ordered on 4/11 also, and was told it would be 5-7 days after purchase for the order to be shipped. I’m hoping it will ship Monday, or Tuesday.
For those who have slept on the T&N Ten, did this mattress turn out to be softer or firmer than what you expected it to be?
I am going to bite the bullet and place an order soon.
I honestly didn’t know what to expect. I was expecting a firm bed, but I can’t envision a bed much firmer than the Ten… so yes it was firmer than I expected.
Phoenix,
Do you think the T&N Ten will sink more over time compared to the T&N Five? Or should it provide more support over time?
I am just wondering if the foam thickness (ten inches vs five inches) makes any difference in the durability of the mattress. Or is it simply thicker to handle perceptions that good mattresses are thicker.
Hi darkarchon,
[quote]Do you think the T&N Ten will sink more over time compared to the T&N Five? Or should it provide more support over time?
I am just wondering if the foam thickness (ten inches vs five inches) makes any difference in the durability of the mattress. Or is it simply thicker to handle perceptions that good mattresses are thicker. [/quote]
The most important factor in the durability of a polyfoam mattress is the quality/density of the polyfoam (in this case about 1.8 - 2 lb polyfoam) and both the 5" and the 10" use the same quality polyfoam. A thicker mattress may be a little more durable however because there is more foam to spread out and absorb the compression forces when you sleep on it so the percentage of compression in the foam would be a little less which can reduce the wear and tear on the mattress.
There are several benefits to a thicker mattress though. One is that thicker mattresses are less likely to bottom out under more concentrated weight or heavier body types.
You could use them on a slatted foundation rather than a solid surface like a floor or a solid surface foundation because you would be less likely to feel the slats under the mattress (particularly with heavier weights).
It would also raise the height of the sleeping surface which would be easier to get in and out of bed for some people.
A thicker mattress also has a wider range of compression from soft to firm which would make it more adaptable for higher weights (and it would probably feel a little softer as well) although lighter weights may not notice any difference in “feel” between them. There is more about the effects of thickness in post #14 here.
Of course the tradeoff for greater thickness is that it’s heavier, a little more costly, and a little more difficult to move, transport, or store.
Phoenix
Been a few weeks, still love my bed. I also really like this company in general, I got a very nice hand written thank you card after I responded to a survey they sent me in an email. The personalization with their customer support is awesome, more companies should be like this. They pretty much secured me for life at this point, when I need a queen size bed I’ll be going back to them.
Hi berfles,
Thanks for the update and feeback … I appreciate it :).
It’s great to see you’re happy with your mattress and their customer service.
Phoenix
Great seeing a topic on this, and finding out about this forum. I’m in the midst of shopping for a mattress, and this has been really helpful.
I generally like firmer foam mattresses and like the business model (and cost!) of Tuft & Needle, plus the generous return window and the high reviews. Figure worst case if I can’t sleep, I can always return… hoping to order a 10" in the next couple days, will post my feedback as well!
Hi amt897,
While their business model isn’t particularly unique compared to other resellers or some of the manufacturers that are members of the site … they are certainly a good quality/value option for those who are in a lower budget range and like the idea or feel of a firmer polyfoam mattress.
I’m looking forward to your feedback once you pull the trigger and have had the chance to sleep on it.
Phoenix
Received my mattress yesterday. It expanded quickly and I did not notice any off-gassing. It is much firmer than my previous mattress. For the first time in quite a while, I feel that I’m on a mattress that is supporting me properly. The build quality seems good. This is my first all foam mattress so I’m not sure what to expect in terms of longevity.
Regarding the firmness, while I like the support that it gives, I don’t think my hips sink in enough when I’m sleeping on my side. I’m thinking a topper may help with that. I’m currently between 230 and 240 pounds and am not sure what effect a topper will have. I’m thinking latex or polyfoam. I don’t know if two inches or three inches would be best or what ILD’s I should be considering.
I also just want to thank everyone for sharing their experiences. This forum has been very helpful in finding a good quality mattress!
Hi SleepNYC,
Thanks for the feedback … I appreciate it
I would make sure you sleep on the mattress for a few weeks before doing anything so it has a chance to break in and you have a chance to adjust to a new sleeping surface but if you do decide that you need a topper then post #2 here and the topper guidelines it links to will help you use your sleeping experience as a reference point in choosing a topper that will have the best chance of working well for you.
Phoenix
Hi Phoenix,
Like so many others, I want to say thanks for all your diligence and hard work maintaining this site. It has been a real godsend in terms of sorting out an overwhelming amount of information. After much deliberation, I’m ordering a Dreamfoam 12 in 1. I’ll let you know how it goes once we’ve had a chance to try it out!
Hi Tallularue,
Thanks for the kind words … and congratulations on your new mattress
You certainly made a good quality/value choice that has lots of options to customize the mattress after you receive it and I’m looking forward to your feedback after you’ve had the chance to sleep on it.
Phoenix
I have now been sleeping on my mattress officially for a week. Both me and the hubby like it so far. I have never slept on a foam mattress prior to this one, and did not know what to expect. I am not a fan of memory foam due to the sinking, but this is completely different. It is a firm mattress, but softer than sleeping on carpet. The motion transfer is almost non-existent. One of the main things we were looking for. So far it’s a win in our books!
Hi jazz,
Thanks for the update and your feedback … I appreciate it
It’s great to hear that you are doing so well with your new mattress and as you mentioned … polyfoam is a very different material and feels and performs very differently from memory foam!
Phoenix
Hey Phoenix:
Are there any options for a firmer polyfoam mattress in the higher budget range?
Hi darkarhon,
Polyfoam in general is a lower cost material than either memory foam, latex, or most innersprings or other mattress materials so an all polyfoam mattress would tend to be in a lower budget range compared to a mattress that used more specialized components or foams (see this article about polyfoam comfort layers). There are some grades of polyfoam called HR polyfoam (polyfoam that uses a different chemical formulation and is 2.5 lb density or higher, has a compression modulus of 2.4 or higher, and has about 60% resiliency) which are more “latex like” which would be in a higher budget range compared to HD polyfoam but these aren’t commonly seen in the industry in an “all polyfoam” construction.
Phoenix
Hey Phoenix,
Any idea if T&N has released ILD values for their Five or Ten mattress? I am trying to see how it compares to foamonline.com’s foam density and ILD chart.
Link:
Hi darkarchon,
I doubt that they would release them because ILD is one of the comfort specs (not a quality spec) that would have little meaning to most people anyway. This would be especially true when you consider all the additional complexities of how the individual ILD’s and layer thicknesses of 3 layers will combine together with all the other specs such as compression modulus and others that would be part of how a mattress feels and performs (see post #2 here).
Their return policy gives people a way to try it with little risk and personal experience is really the only way to know how a mattress will feel and perform in terms of PPP.
In terms of the “quality” specs … their foam layers are in the 1.8 - 2 lb range.
Phoenix