Thanks for the work you put in on this site. I am strongly considering purchasing the Ultimate Dreams 13" Gel Memory Foam Mattress. After reading about it on this site I am going to go try out the Tempurpedic Cloud Luxe today. If all goes well with that one I am going to order the Ultimate Dreams mattress (I have read it is a little firmer than the Cloud Luxe so I will be keeping that in mind).
For the base/foundation I would like to get something that is supportive for the mattress but I also want it to be economical. If I can keep it in a $175-$225 budget that would be ideal. I have read your main post on the topic and have read many other threads regarding it. I am a bit overwhelmed with all the different options.
Can you think of any base/foundation out there that you would directly recommend in the price range of $175-$225? Or would recommend sucking it up and spending the extra $100 or so to get one of the more highly recommended models?
I don’t know what size you are considering and foundations have a big price difference depending on size but I normally recommend either the foundation that is suggested by the manufacturer or something that is similar quality and just as evenly supportive. In this case that would mean any of the wood slat KD foundations in the list or the 14" wire grid foundations in the list that have the same number or more longitudinal wires.
There are some cheaper ones listed there as well that have less longitudinal wires which would probably be fine as well for a mattress with a polyfoam base layer like yours but the ones that have less wires and larger spaces in the grid would have a greater risk of foam sagging over time than the ones that are more evenly supportive. I don’t think there is any way to quantify the risk though because they haven’t been out for long enough to know for sure based on actual experience. The one they recommend here is inside your budget though although a cheaper version with less wires will “probably” also be fine.
Has anyone here used one of the 14" wire grid foundations for a long period of time? Just curious to hear any experiences, I can’t decide if I want to go with that, or get a regular frame with a wooden foundation. That combo is more expensive, but I’m not sure how those metal ones will hold up over time. I’m not sure if there are more “heavy duty” metal platforms available.
I think the frames themselves will be very durable but the bigger issue is how they will affect the mattress on top of them because they haven’t been out long enough to know for sure. They are likely to be fine with a mattress with a polyfoam base layer but I would be a little cautious using them with an all latex mattress. You can read more about this in post #4 here.
The ones with more longitudinal wires or that have a cover on top could be less “risky” IMO.
Thanks. I am getting a mattress with a polyfoam base layer, latex comfort layer, and I would also put a cover on top. It just seems to me that those metal frames (which fold) wouldn’t be super-strong, especially over the long haul. I’ve read a bunch of reviews, and they are generally very good, but it seems 1 out of 4 or 5 has an issue with squeaking and/or not being structurally sound.
I’ve seen the same reports of sqeaking and it’s generally a “fix” with lubricating the support struts or putting a washer in them but I haven’t seen any significant issues with their structural integrity because I believe the better ones are very strong … but I don’t own one so I only have second hand experience with them (talking with people who sell them).
Do you consider the ones you linked in post 1 under “less expensive options” to be among the “better ones”? The Glideaway one (11 wires) looks interesting, but I can’t find a single review for it. I would assume the one sold on BB’s website should be good as well since they’re selling it, but again, not sure how long people have been using them for- I don’t really want to have to replace it in a year or two.
This looks like it may be a good option. http://www.usboxspring.com/metal.htm I am fairly certain I am going to purchase the IKEA Sultan Edsele latex mattress. However I would like a foundation to add height as well as have proper support. After all of the reading, the Sultan Laxeby slatted foundation sounds like a good choice, but does not add the height Would the frame in your link shown above work with an IKEA bed mattress and bed frame such as this? Products - IKEA
The foundation would work fine for any foam mattress latex or otherwise including the Edsele.
The Ikea beds though may be a little shorter and narrower than standard so I would measure them carefully and make sure you have the accurate measurements of the foundation to make sure it will fit the bedframe.
Hi - first post. I’m looking for info on adjustable foundations, specifically the ergomotion. I can’t seem to find out how the surface of the foundation is made. Is it solid or slats or wires or what? In fact every brand of adjustable bed has the surface covered and I haven’t found one that talks about what the surface actually is. I going to buy latex mattress, probably from from sleepez, and would like to know if the adjustable foundation would allow the bed to breath. As I read in the first post, the best foundation is the one recommended by the manufacturer. Sleepez recommends slats. Thanks for any help!
As you can see in post #10 here though … I think that a slatted foundation is the best choice unless there is a compelling reason to choose something else. In my own case … wanting an adjustable bed was a compelling reason and make any additional risk of a less breathable surface worth it to me.
I am looking for a King sized mattress and am looking at either a Latex or a Memory Foam bed. In reading through numerous forum posts I think I may be more confused now about all the different options. I had looked at getting a iComfort until I was put off by a salesman and started doing more of my own research. It brought me to this site and the information as been great, but a little much to take in over a day or two. My wife and I are both tall and sleep on our sides and stomachs mostly, while I sleep on my back occasionally, but only because our current mattress is terrible. I am 180lbs and she is about 140lbs. We are looking for a softer top layer but still provides sufficient support after that cradle feeling has sunk in. I am going to visit the OMF this weekend and see their options for latex and memory foam beds.
Currently I am looking at the BB Bamboo Bliss or some model from SleepEZ, but I noticed that there is foam over latex over foam and wondered what this impact would have on comfort and longevity. I have read on SLTD that the foam over latex makes for a less than desirable bed and was curious of your thoughts on that.
Secondly, I purchased flexible slats (SULTAN LURÖY from Ikea) with the intention of using it on the iComfort, but now I am thinking it would be unnecessary with either of my newer choices and potentially a mistake. Any help would be much appreciated.
the first place to start is always post #1 here. This links to all the basic information, steps, and guidelines you will need to make the best possible decision.
A polyfoam comfort layer over latex is certainly not a good idea (unless the polyfoam is very high quality) because it would usually become the weak link of the mattress. Having a polyfoam quilting layer though in the range of an inch or so is usually fine in terms of durability because with a layer this thin and because it’s already pre-compressed with the quilting then softening would not normally be an issue and it can provide a surface feel that some people like.
Foam mattresses (memory foam, latex, latex hybrids etc) usually do best with a firm, rigid, non flexing foundation. The exception may be a thinner mattress that may be too firm by itself and needs some extra flex or “give” underneath it. I would normally stick with a firm non flexing foundation though unless the mattress manufacturer specifically recommends or has designed the mattress to be used with something else or unless you have tested a mattress both ways and it’s clearly better for you with a flexing foundation underneath it. In other words you could always try it but the Luroy wouldn’t be the ideal for any of the mattresses you are looking at (and probably wouldn’t have been for the iComfort either).
So I realized after reading several more posts that the BB memory foam or Latex beds are very similar other than the top comfort layer. I am trying to confirm that as I type this, but their site is down. I think that I have decided on the brand, now I just need to figure out the model. Are their any negatives to having the latex over foam?
I am curious about the slats I purchased and wondering if I need to return them and use something more static seeing it could negatively impact the mattress.
I appreciate this site and all the work you have put into this. I am curious to know which mattress you went with personally, but that may be an unfair request so you do not alienate all the other brands.
Whether there are “negatives” or “positives” depends on what you are comparing it to. If you are comparing a latex hybrid to an all latex mattress for example you can see a comparison here.
On the latex hybrid mattresses on their own site … each of their 3 hybrid models has a different benefit as you go up the line. The Cotton Camilla is the basic model (similar to the Eurotop on the Amazon site). The cover has wool in the second model up (Bamboo Bliss) and there are two layers of latex that can be customized in the third (Aloe Alexis). One benefit of having latex on top is that the top layers are generally the “weak link” of a mattress and this way you have the most durable material in the layer where durability is most important.
I think you can return it to Ikea but they could tell you for sure. My thoughts about it are in the last reply.
I designed my own mattress and had it built to my specs so it wouldn’t be available for someone else to purchase anyway. You can see the details here.
I have ab 11 yr old poly foam mattress which is extremely hard, I call it the brick, which is impossible to sleep on it is so hard. It has been used for these 11years as a base or foundation for various mattresses, toppers, tallalay and such, and therefore has not, I would think, been broken down much. It certainly feels quite evenly solid. The layers above it. have been 6-8 inches thick. We paid $300 for a king size but found it so hard used it as as a base layer and then cut it in half with a chain saw [is this a first i wonder?] to use on 2 twin XLs when my wife could no longer stand my pulling the covers off her every night in my sleep.This sits on an inner spring mattress which seems in good shape as well, also 11 yr. old. My question is- does this seem to be a good enough foundation for most any 12-13" mattress I might put over it? Seems to me maybe all I need is something firm, perhaps a base which doesn’t interact much with the mattress. I’m thinking of a select foam or tallalay mattress from one of your members. Thnx.
That sounds like a really strange sleeping system. If I read what you are saying correctly you have an innerspring mattress with your firm mattress over that with another 6 - 8" of foam over that? WOW.
I would not use this under a foam mattress no. Foam mattresses generally do best with a rigid non flexing support system under it not more foam or innersprings or another mattress.
Would the frame in your link shown above work with an IKEA bed mattress and bed frame such as this?