The Best Foundations or Base for a Latex or All Foam Mattress

raeberry33 wrote:

The support underneath whatever you choose is very important. Take a look at what you currently have under your bed set, and post a photo if you have the opportunity. It would be easier for us on the forum to then make sure that your support system is adequate.

And ditto what Phoenix said about your box spring. I’d lean toward replacement, regardless of the new type of mattress you choose. I’m not a fan of the recommendation you received at the Casper store.

Thank you Phoenix and Matt-To-Go. It was very helpful and I will consider a better quality frame without split side rails. Most of the frames for a Twin XL mattress seem to be 71" long. Is there any need to be concerned about the bed tipping over when one sits on the end (I have a BB mattress)?

I ordered the SleepEZ slatted foundation. I choose it over the one at mattresses.net because is 0.5 inch wider (38") for a Twin XL. For the information of others, you can get a 5% discount on the foundation by putting the “MUG” in the comments box during checkout (as verified by the support representative on call). They will bill you for the whole amount at checkout but refund 5% back later.

That is the standard frame rail length for a king/queen/twin XL. Sitting on the end of a twin extra long you may be able to tilt up the mattress set a bit (depending upon the mass of you and the mattress), so if you find something with a longer length it wouldn’t hurt. But the 70"-71" works just fine for the majority of the population.

Jeff Scheuer
Mattress To Go

Hi shrini,

It would depend to some degree on the specifics of the bedframe and the amount of overhang beyond the legs but unless you are in a very heavy weight range it would be very unlikely.

Phoenix

Phoenix & Matt-to-Go - Thank you both for the helpful info!

[quote]The support underneath whatever you choose is very important. Take a look at what you currently have under your bed set, and post a photo if you have the opportunity. It would be easier for us on the forum to then make sure that your support system is adequate.
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I’ve attached photos of (what I thought/think) is my boxspring - given Phoenix’s reply, I’m not sure if this is a foundation or a boxspring, but I assume with the wireframe inside, it’s likely a spring? I tried to show as much of it as I can given the covering - the photos show the top half of a queen sized piece, so there is that wiremesh type box on the top and wide set wooden slats across the bottom. It’s very lightweight.

I’ve also attached a quick diagram of the bottom of my bedframe - I didn’t see this until I’d already put everything back and moving it all was a chore. I mentioned it’s a 4 poster, so it has the head/foot support of the 4 poster polls, and it has a sort of very wide H shaped frame connecting the posts at the bottom, with circular feet to the floor. I’ve included a shot of the the connection of the frame/foot/pole as well.

Please let me know if these are more helpful in advising my next steps. I will definitely look through the forum posts on Casper mattresses that Phoenix provided (thanks!).

Thank you for clarifying! As I said, I don’t know much about this stuff - they just kept saying latex mattress when I was at the showroom and it’s what stuck with me the most. I’m wasn’t sure what else to classify it as other than comfortable for my back :slight_smile: .

raeberry33:

It looks like you have a semi-flex foundation. As long as this was flat and firm and wasn’t dipping, you should be OK.

Your bed set looks to be a Fashion Bed / Leggett and Platt and the frame has a center support to line up with your foundation head-to-toe beams, so you’re all set there as well.

Hi raeberry33,

I’ll add a “ditto” to Jeff’s comments … you should be good to go :slight_smile:

Phoenix

Thanks, Jeff & Phoenix!

So, a Casper mattress will be able to sit directly on the type of foundation that I have? (As long as it’s in good, non-dipping condition?)

I appreciate all your info!

I just purchased a king sized Obasan mattress and the bed frame that I would like to purchase has steel slats measuring 2"w x 1"h with a 3.25" gap.
Will steel slats work for a latex mattress and is a 0.25" difference in the gap a deal breaker?
Thanks in advance!

Hi Marshall,

With slats that are only 2" wide and gaps between them that are 3.25" wide the surface area that is in contact with and supporting the mattress would be less than with 1x3 wooden slats (that are actually 2.5" wide) so the gaps would be a larger percentage of the total surface area supporting the mattress than with a slat system that uses standard wooden slats with gaps that are no more than 3" apart (and preferably less) and are about 50% of the total support surface area. While it probably wouldn’t be an issue in the shorter term … the lower surface area in contact with the mattress would result in a greater risk that the latex would sag into the gaps in between the slats over the longer term although it’s not really possible to quantify the higher risk except to say it would be “less supportive” than the minimum guidelines that I normally suggest.

While it may be an “abundance of caution” … if you would like to reduce the risk then an inch or two of very firm polyfoam in between the mattress and the platform bed or adding a rubberized coir bed rug like this or something like the vinyl lattice here would reduce the risk.

Phoenix

Hi, I’ve been reading up about mattresses on these forums, and I recently purchased a Dreamfoam latex mattress. Their site says that a board is an acceptable foundation. However, I am concerned that it could possibly interfere with the ability of the mattress to breathe, given the way that the holes in latex appear to line up. What do you all think?

Hi mhswlee,

Congratulations on your new mattress :slight_smile:

As you know you certainly made a great quality/value choice and I’m looking forward to your comments and feedback once you’ve received it and have had the chance to sleep on it for a bit.

I don’t see any comments on their site about a solid surface support system but you can see my comments about a solid support surface under a mattress (such as plywood or MDF) in post #10 here. While it would certainly be “supportive” enough … they can be an additional risk factor relative to the formation or mold or mildew … particularly if there are other risk factors involved that could contribute to the formation or mold or mildew in a mattress. Having said that … if there are no other risk factors involved then it should be fine.

Phoenix

This is very helpful information, thank you!

Hi mahlon65,

Welcome … and I’m glad the information here was helpful :slight_smile:

Phoenix

Looking for information on the Ergomotiion Adjusable bed/foundation. Not able to find much in the way of information on it. It is priced right at the moment, but told it is being discontinued.

https://www.afwonline.com/furniture/mattresses-more/adjustable-beds/prestige-wireless-dual-king-bases-pre-66

Does anyone have info on this model? I believe it is the ergomtotion 5100. To be used with the Brooklyn Bedding Medium latex mattress.

Thanks!!

Hi biker2035,

It would certainly be suitable for use with a Brooklyn Bedding BestMattressEver.

Ergomotion/Softide is a reliable manufacturer but the Softide 5100 has an 850 lb weight capacity and the model that you linked has a 700 lb weight capacity so I’m not sure it’s the same model but the price certainly appears to be very reasonable and if it’s new with a manufacturers warranty then it looks like it compares very well with other adjustables based on features/price comparisons (which is generally how I would choose an adjustable bed) and would be well worth considering.

Phoenix

Any thoughts on the Brooklyn Bedding Super Duty High Rise Platform Frame? It is similar to the other wire ones but they say it uses steel tubing instead of wires so that would provide more surface area for the mattress to sit on. I would be using it with Brooklyn Bedding’s BestMattressEver. I see a few reviews mentioning squeaking and I’m a bit wary because of that.

Hi noam,

I don’t have any personal experience with it but the BB Super Duty High Rise Platform frame appears to be stronger and more stable and has a higher weight capacity than many of the other wire grid platform beds and it’s likely that there would be less issues with welds breaking or the frame or legs bending. The thicker wires would also provide a little more surface area to support the mattress and it has more cross wires that are also thicker as well but all the wire grid platform beds have larger spaces and less support surface area than slatted foundations which may allow the mattress to sink into the gaps over longer periods of time (see post #10 here).

As you mentioned most of them that I’ve seen also appear to have some percentage of customers that report squeaking issues that may be difficult to locate and solve although it may be possible to fix the squeak either by re-tightening any bolts or adding a washer or by lubricating any metal on metal contact points that are squeaking (including the angled braces).

Overall I think it would make a reasonable lower budget choice for a mattress like the BME that has a firmer polyfoam base although I wouldn’t use it with a mattress that has a latex base layer.

Phoenix

Hi Phoenix and Others,

I’ve been reading all of the great information here the last few days and about to purchase a Novosbed. As you may have guessed, I have a foundation question.

I’m looking at this bed frame in a king size - https://www.wayfair.ca/Baxton-Studio-Heidi-Upholstered-Platform-Bed-BBT6485-WHI6886.html

Through all the sites selling the product, there is no slat width or distance between the slats listed anywhere unfortunately… I was hoping someone could have a look and see what they thing about the width/spacing. Also it looks like they may be flexible slats? Would that be OK?

Here is a user image - http://imgur.com/a/wiPzk
And here are the assembly instructions - http://wholesaleinteriorsdownloads.com/pictures/AI.%20Active%20Items/Bedroom%20Furniture%20Beds/BBT6485.%20King.pdf

Thank you for any insight you can give!

Edit: I just heard back from the manufacturer’s outlet website that the slats are 2.5 inches wide and 3.5 inches between each. Novosbed suggests they are no less than 2" wide and no more than 3" apart. New thoughts please?