UK -sleeping duck mattresses

[phoenix]

Hi Smoiu,

This is what I was worried about - I’m pleased you think the springs and latex are good quality but I didn’t want to jump in and buy a £600 bed that has that much unknown material in it. After all if its really good stuff then why not advertise it as such!

While some information can legitimately be considered to be proprietary to a manufacturer … there are many manufacturers that claim that the information you would need to make an informed choice is also somehow “proprietary” but I certainly wouldn’t agree. You can read a little more about “so called” proprietary materials and using this as a justification for not disclosing what I would consider to be essential information here and here and here.

On the other hand aren’t latex and springs the most expensive components, in which case does cutting costs from that middle part make sense from a manufactures point of view?

It certainly makes sense because there isn’t “room” in a mattress in this budget range to use the most costly materials from top to bottom but there would certainly be room to use less costly materials that are still “durable enough” that they wouldn’t be a “weak link” in a mattress and lead to premature or excess foam softening or breakdown before 7 - 10 years.

After I said I wasn’t sure about such a thin layer of memory foam and an unknown denser material he said that as the bed is totally modular they would replace either component if it showed signs of wear. Does that just sound like marketing speak to you? The cynic in me believes its no different from the normal “10 year warrenty” promises mattress companies make.

This is really just “marketing speak” because normally “signs of wear” involve a visible impression in the mattress that is more than a specific measured amount. Foam materials can soften (lose firmness or what is often called a virtual impression which isn’t visible when you are off the mattress) before it develops “visible impressions” (that can be measured) and foam softening can lead to the loss of comfort and support and the need to replace a mattress regardless of whether any visible impressions are deeper than the warranty exclusion.

[quote]Thanks a lot for the detailed and informative reply; I’m going to keep looking. The problem is in this price point I’ve not found anything I really like in a King size. Pure foam beds really didn’t feel nice to me, and pocket springs tend to cost a fortune already without adding layers on top. I was really hoping to find something like that orion (2500 pocket springs and 10cm foam/latex) at under £700 but I think I’ll have to find something else suitable as even getting a 2000 spring bed from John Ryan with a view to adding a topper is £950 before I’ve looked at getting the topper!

This (www.factory-beds-direct.co.uk/mattress-s...tex-1500-kingsize-2/) seems like the obvious choice but even that is £50 more than the sleeping duck and my budget before shipping.[/quote]

I’m not familiar with the prices in the UK market but it may not be realistic to find a king size mattress like the Orion in the budget range you are looking for.

The Origins latex/pocket coil 1500 mattress you linked certainly uses higher quality and more costly materials and components (including thicker layers of latex and wool) than the Sleepingduck and if it’s only £50 pounds more (unless I’m reading it wrong the websites appear to indicate that the difference is more than that) it would certainly appear to be a better “value” purchase based on the type, qualityy, and cost of the materials but of course this is also assuming that it would be a good “match” for you in terms of PPP (Posture and alignment, Pressure relief, and your Personal preferences) as well.

Phoenix