Value price full mattress for kids

Hello! Lots of great info on this site. Thanks for putting it together. I’m looking for a value priced full mattress for my 7 year old daughter. I’m located in 66061 and I’m open to latex or non-latex. We have a box spring so I’m searching for a mattress only. I was hoping to stay under $550 which I realize doesn’t give me many options for a quality mattress. Locally I’ve seen some from Nebraska Furniture Mart for $350. From searching through the forums it looks like Arizona offers a kids latex mattress that would fit our budget. Are there any other suggestions in our price range?

Arizona Premium will keep you well below the $550 and it’s 6" of 100% blended talalay latex.

Are there any other options that would be worth taking a look at?

Hi stuuke,

Post #2 here and the topics it links to has much more information about choosing a mattress for a child and includes a number of links to the better forum posts and topics about mattress and children that include many good options as well.

The better options or possibilities I’m aware of in and around the Kansas City area (subject to making sure that any mattress you are considering meets your criteria and the quality/value guidelines here) are listed in post #2 here.

Phoenix

Thanks Phoenix. For locally available products do you have any thoughts on the Sleeptronic from Joplimo vs. Omaha Bedding Company at Nebraska Furniture Mart?

Hi stuuke,

I don’t keep a record of the individual mattresses or their specs that the retailers and manufacturers in the hundreds of forum lists throughout the forum carry on their floor or have available online (it would be a bigger job than anyone could keep up with in a constantly changing market) but checking their websites and making some preliminary phone calls to the retailers/manufacturers that are on the local lists is always a good idea before you decide on which retailers or manufacturers you wish to deal with anyway. This will tell you which of them carry mattresses that would meet your specific criteria, are transparent about the materials in their mattresses, and that carry the type of mattresses that you are interested in that are also in the budget range you are comfortable with. Once you have checked their websites and/or talked with the ones that interest you then you will be in a much better position to decide on the ones that you are most interested in considering or visiting based on the results of your preliminary research and conversations.

If you can find out the information in this article about any of the mattresses you are considering and post it on the forum then I’d certainly be happy to make some comments about the quality and durability of the materials inside it to let you know if there are any lower quality materials or weak links that would affect the durability and useful life of the mattress and could be a reason for concern.

Phoenix

I finally had a chance to look at Joplimo. Here are the stats I found a full mattress. We can pick it up without a box spring for $379 with a free mattress protector.

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Butterwood Plush

$349.99–$899.99

With unmatched value and established quality, our refresh™ collection of mattresses features the most traditional and trusted materials.

The Butterwood Plush features the most widely used innerspring in the industry. It is comparable to mattresses made by most national brands in the manner it is constructed, but is priced much lower since the middle man has been cut out. Where the Butterwood sets itself apart from the competition is that it is handmade in Springfield, Missouri and backed with a Lifetime Comfort Guarantee – where the firmness can be changed any time needed during the warranty period of the mattress. Refresh™ mattresses are built to last and therefore are backed with 10 year non-prorated warranty.
Size
Clear
$479.99
SKU: 6307745 Categories: Brands, California King, Full, Joplimo, King, Plush, Queen, Size, Traditional Innerspring, Twin, TwinXL

Product Description
top quilt:
HydroPur silver antimicrobial fiber
1" supersoft foam
comfort layers:
1.5" convoluted foam
1" 36 ILD foam
fiber insulating pad
support system:
7" VertiCoil® innerspring unit
504 coils in a Queen
648 coils in a King foundation:
8" premium wood foundation
warranty:
10-year full non-prorated warranty

They also had a King in stock that they quoted at a pretty good price. They offered this one for $1750 and we’d get the kid bed for free. The list price for it is $3500.

op quilt:
Premium circular knit performance fabric
comfort layers:
2″ phase change beaded gel memory foam
1″ Omalon foam
support system:
7" fabric encased nested innerspring unit
980 coils in a Queen
1260 coils in a King
Foam encased edge support
foundation:
7" premium Truflex foundation
warranty:
lifetime non-prorated warranty

Hi stuuke,

Unfortunately neither one of the descriptions you posted include any foam density information (see this article) so they really don’t say anything about the quality or durability of the foam layers in the mattress. I would avoid any mattress where you aren’t able to find out the information you need to make an informed choice and make meaningful comparisons to other mattresses.

I would also tend to avoid memory foam for growing children.

Phoenix

I’ll see if I can get the density. The king with the memory foam would be for us and not the bed for our daughter.

This is the response I received:

The Butterwood Plush is 1.8 lb poly foam at a 36 ILD. The Swearingen(king bed) is 7 lb beaded gel memory foam with a layer of 2 lb omalon foam at 36 ILD under the gel foam layers.

Hi stuuke,

It’s unlikely that all three polyfoam layers in the Butterwood Plush are 36 ILD (which is firm) but the ILD isn’t important to know anyway since you can feel the firmness of a mattress when you try it out and if all 3 layers are 1.8 lb density then they would meet the quality/durability guidelines here and there would be no lower quality materials or weak links in the mattress that could compromise the durability or useful life of the mattress for a child’s weight. My biggest concern given that the mattress has “plush” in the name is that it would be firm enough for a child.

Again the ILD isn’t important to know when you are testing a mattress locally but these are both high quality and durable materials so there are no weak links that would compromise the durability or useful life of this mattress.

Phoenix

Phoenix,

How do you feel about coil on coil designs? Right now we have 3 favorites in completely different types of beds. The first is a hybrid posted above, another is a latex and the third is a coil on coil design.

From their website description
Outlast performance fabric
HydroPur Silver FR barrier
1.5″ convoluted foam
1.5″ convoluted foam
comfort layers:
1.5″ convoluted foam
foam-encased 3″ Softech micro fabric encased innerspring
744 coils in a Queen
930 coils in a King
support system:
8" fabric encased Body Print Advanced innerspring unit
858 coils in a Queen
1056 coils in a King
Foam encased edge support
foundation:
8" premium wood foundation
warranty:
15-year full non-prorated warranty

Hi stuuke,

Assuming that the materials in a mattress you are considering are durable enough for your body type and meet the quality/durability guidelines here relative to your weight range … the choice between different types and combinations of materials and components or different types of mattresses are more of a preference and a budget choice than a “better/worse” choice (see this article).

Microcoils are only one of many components in a mattress but by themselves they are a durable component. There is more about microcoils that are used in comfort layers in this article and in post #8 here and post #2 here.

[quote]From their website description
Outlast performance fabric
HydroPur Silver FR barrier
1.5″ convoluted foam
1.5″ convoluted foam
comfort layers:
1.5″ convoluted foam
foam-encased 3″ Softech micro fabric encased innerspring
744 coils in a Queen
930 coils in a King
support system:
8" fabric encased Body Print Advanced innerspring unit
858 coils in a Queen
1056 coils in a King
Foam encased edge support[/quote]

While the microcoils themselves are a durable component … there is 4.5" of “unknown density” polyfoam in the top layers of this mattress so unless you can confirm that the density would meet the durability guidelines I linked in my previous reply I would avoid it because the polyfoam layers could be a weak link in the mattress that would be very likely compromise the durability and useful life of the mattress. Convoluted polyfoam will also be less durable than a solid layer of polyfoam that is the same density and firmness (see post #8 here).

Phoenix

They’ve offered either the R9 coil on coil (normally $3500 with 15 year warranty) or Swearingen hybrid (normally $3500 with lifetime warranty) with an additional less expensive queen and full mattresses for the kids for $2000 which seems like a great deal. I’m sure the R9 and Swearingen never sell for the full listed price but it still seems like a Brooklyn bedding king or Kiss king might be a better value.

Hi stuuke,

The “regular price” of a mattress isn’t a reliable way to assess the “value” of a mattress purchase or whether you are getting a “deal” because if the regular price is the MSRP (manufacturers suggested retail price) it’s generally highly inflated and has little to do with what the mattress usually sells for and is generally more about marketing than anything else. Even that is assuming that the mattress would be worth buying at any price because I would avoid any mattress that uses lower quality or “unknown” materials regardless of the price.

The information in post #15 here about price vs “value” would also be well worth reading.

I thought you were buying 2 mattresses rather than 3 but regardless of how many mattresses you are purchasing the only way to assess whether you are getting a “deal” or not would be to compare them to the other finalists you are considering based on their suitability, their durability, and on all the other parts of your personal value equation that are important to you (including the price of course).

Phoenix

We were looking at buying 2 but my oldest daughter has a horrible mattress from Mattress Firm and of course if everyone is getting a new mattress she wants one as well :slight_smile: The mattress they have available for her is similar to the full that I listed but it has edge foam on the sides of the bed.

I’ve read several of the threads and it looks like 7-10 years is a good life for a quality mattress. The king is advertised as a forever mattress and the company will adjust the mattress as needed. Do you feel that there are mattresses that would exceed the 7-10 lifespan? Joplimo appears to use quality materials and it is nice to purchase from a local store. I just wish that there was more user experience out there.

For future forum users.:

The R9 only has 1.8 lb density poly foam at 36 ILD in the quilt and only 1.5" on top of the pocketed coil system in the pillow top.

Hi stuuke,

Yes there are many people that sleep on their mattress for longer than 10 years but anything over 10 years is what I call “bonus time”.

There is also no way to specifically quantify how long any mattress will last for a specific person or predict exactly when they will decide to replace it because it is no longer suitable or comfortable for them (because this is the only real measure of durability or the useful life of a mattress that really matters) and because there are too many unknowns and variables involved that are unique to each person … if a mattress is well inside a suitable comfort/support range and isn’t close to the edge of being too soft when it is new (see post #2 here) and you have confirmed that it meets the minimum quality/durability specs that are suggested in the guidelines here then it would be reasonable to expect a useful lifetime in the range of 7 - 10 years and with higher quality and more durable materials like latex or higher density memory foam or polyfoam (in the comfort layers especially) it would likely be in the higher end of the range or even longer and the chances that you would have additional “bonus time” would be higher as well.

Phoenix

I might go check the Savvy Rest and Lebeda mattresses today for some local comparison.