Any Brooklyn Bedding customers unhappy?

I have a 10" total latex that I bought about a month ago, and I’m not sure how happy I am with it. I like it much more than my TempurPedic Cloud Supreme that I had before it, but I think the BB bed is getting to be too soft. I even customized it to make it fairly firm, and I’m a lightweight guy (5’9", 150lbs) but it’s kind of making my back sore. The bed is three layers, with the bottom two layers fused together. All Talalay, 36ILD, 32ILD and 28ILD on the top. Mario told me this was the equivalent of a “5”. I find that the top layer is sagging a bit, there’s an impression, and if I sleep on the edge of the bed, I now feel as though I’m at the top of a valley that I could roll into at any point. However, it was very comfortable before the top layer softened up so much.

Another issue I have with it is the construction of the core. They told me that the two layers would be fused together, which was fine. When I was chatting with Mario, he told me that the core would be removable, just that the two layers would be fused together. I liked this idea because it gave me the ability to flip the core, and if I wanted to, put the soft layer below the core and sleep on the 32ILD layer, if I desired.

When I got the mattress, I unzipped the cover out of curiosity to find that the two layers of the core are sewn into the cover, so only the top layer (28ILD layer) of the mattress is removable. This means that I have to exchange it for a firmer layer instead of just changing the order of the latex in the mattress that I already have, avoiding having to ship big expensive pieces of latex around the country, which is not a good solution, and I’d like to avoid.

The weight for the mattress was quoted to be 130LBs. I can tell you that it weighs MUCH more than that, it took 2 burly guys to carry it up my stairs, friends who I tricked into doing it. I could have carried it myself if it was 130 pounds. I told them I couldn’t and how much it weighed and they told me I was a wimp, so they came over and did it, then told me it was much heavier than 130. This would have been nice to know, because if I didn’t have friends who could have helped me, I would have been stuck not being able to get it up the stairs in my house.

I will also say that I had read the shredded latex pillows were a little underfilled. This was mentioned in a few of their reviews. I think they took that to heart because the pillows I got are very overfilled, extremely fluffy. I wish there was a way to empty a bit out, because I could easily make a 3rd pillow out of the excess in the two I have. Not a huge deal, but again a simple zipper would have made this a non issue.

I will mention that the mattress was delivered without signature required. This is something that the shipper decides when they ship the package. This is just something to keep in mind, your ~$2000 bed will be sitting on the ground outside your house if you’re not home when it gets there. That made me a bit nervous when it was delivered.

On their website, they advertise that if you purchase the 10" Total Latex mattress, you have 120 days of comfort exchanges, absolutely free. This is not amended anywhere, it just says that it’s absolutely free. In speaking with one of their reps, the exchange process is kind of complicated, and you have to pay a $200 deposit, which makes it not free. He kept explaining to me why they need to obtain the deposit, and that’s not the point, and not what I am not understanding. I just don’t understand why they would advertise the fact that it is “absolutely free” when they are taking money from you, even temporarily, that is not free. It’s kind of misleading actually.

I am sorry to hear all that. On Thursday I will have the exact same mattress delivered by FedEx. I also asked BB about the weight and was told the mattress weighs 120-125 lbs for King Size (that seemed quite light when I read that in the email response). “Jacob” also told me he and his wife were able to carry the King Size Aloe Alexis mattress up two flights of stairs with no problem. The Aloe mattress has to weigh considerably more than the one I bought since it is 4" thicker than the all natural latex mattres. However, I have to believe what I was told is correct because the FedEx tracking sheet shows 135lbs shipping weight and that also includes the mattress cover (and my order was for a queen size). But if you are correct and BB gave me the wrong weight, I too will have to “trick” a couple friends into helping me!!

I explained I was 6 foot, 230 lbs, which is quite a bit larger than you, yet a “5” firmness was also recommended for me. I indicated that I like a firmer mattress as a matter of course but was told the “5” should be right for me. All I can say is that I hope my impressions are different than yours - we will have to wait and see.

Well my Aloe Alexis is suppose to be delivered friday. Mine is a king and fedex tracking says it’s 83.7 lbs. That’s worrysome. It also says the box measures 42x16x15. I would have thought the box shouid be as tall as a king is wide?!? I sure hope I don’t have any premature impressions forming!

A lot of times these mattress shops will compress the latex for shipping. I don’t think it reduces shipping costs. every time ai’ve shipped something, they charge by weight. But it probably protects the mattress from damage, e.g. knocking around something when it’s compressed is less dangerous than when it’s all loose and hanging out.

My Cloud Luxe is supposed to be delivered on Friday too. Fed Ex is making me crazy because there have been no location updates since it left Phoenix. :frowning: The weight is listed as a total of 110 lbs. I hope they bring it to the porch. There are no box dimensions in my tracking report, again :frowning: getting anxious.

Hi Kmfl98,

The mattresses are compressed before shipping because courier companies have both size and weight restrictions for shipping and if it doesn’t fit their size restrictions (and a mattress doesn’t) then it would have to be shipped truck freight which is much more costly.

As long as it isn’t compressed for extended periods of time and the foam is good quality (and both of these are the case with Dreamfoam) it will have no effect on the durability of the mattress.

Phoenix

Hi noneedlessnoise,

By my standards … this qualifies as free or as they call it “risk free” and it’s quite reasonable to expect a deposit to ensure that the exchanged layer is returned. More than that though … their return and exchange policy is explained in detail on their site here so there is no reason for anyone to be surprised or complain about something that is clearly outlined when they make a purchase. When you make an online purchase it’s important to make sure you understand the details and are comfortable with a manufacturer’s or retailer’s return and exchange policies before you make a purchase. This is (or should be) part of every online purchase so there are never any surprises or reasons to be unhappy when you need to make an exchange. A good exchange policy is part of the “value” of an online purchase and helps to offset the risk that you may make the wrong comfort choice which is part of the inherent risk every online mattress purchase.

It’s unlikely that your latex has softened as much as you believe it has (outside of the slight amount that is part of the initial break in period for a mattress and part of this is the cover and quilting as well) but for most people their subjective impressions of their mattress will change over the first few weeks and this is just a normal part of adjusting to a new mattress. If you put the layer on a flat floor for example you will almost certainly find that any slight impressions are not the latex but the ticking and quilting materials (depending on how slight you are talking about of course). Latex mattresses also don’t usually have edge support so if you sleep close to the edge it will be a little softer and this is also normal for this type of mattress.

If for some reason you have a defective layer (which can happen on occasion of course although it is a small percentage of people who will actually experience this) then if you talk with them and it is confirmed that you have an unusual softening issue they are the type of manufacturer who will go out of their way to fix any reasonable issue you may have.

If you were given incorrect information (or if you misunderstood correct information) then I would also bring this to their attention to help make sure that others also understand that only the top layer can be accessed and exchanged. The description on their site is fairly clear and says that only the top layer can be accessed and exchanged and I think most of the people who work there would know this and would have no reason to provide you with incorrect information but in any case regardless of whether it was misinformation or your misunderstanding I would bring it to their attention so that it is less likely to happen to someone else.

The first step though is to call them and talk with them about your issues and the options you have to change your comfort choice which is the main value of having an exchangeable layer in the first place.

Phoenix

Check your tracking again, my Aloe Alexis in King was just delivered and they used two separate packages. You probably have two numbers linked together in the FedEx report. Both of mine were ~90-lbs (one 90, one 95 for a total weight of 185-lbs) and one was 79x15x15 with the other being close to your 42x16x15 dimensions.

The larger box was the main support core and quilting of the mattress (which is why it is the full King width) and the smaller box was the four 3" talalay latex pieces.

Hope that helps!

Fed Ex is making me crazy. There have been no updates to the location of my mattress since Saturday. Am I worrying for nothing? It says they expect delivery tomorrow.

I’ve noticed that with FedEx they don’t update locations as often as UPS usually its because the package is on one long haul truck so its not unloaded/loaded and scanned each time. If they have a delivery date I wouldn’t worry. There will probably be an update the evening before delivery when it reaches a regional facility and is unloaded to be put on a local truck.

nik

My base was delivered wednesday and the latex today. We had to sleep on the base foam with the quilting layer (no latex) and it felt great to me. I had a great nights sleep. I prefer a firm surface so now that I have my latex (32/28) I’m excited to sleep on it tonight! I’ll report back.

You slept on it that quickly? I thought these things had to take a few days to get into shape after being compressed for shipping. I just checked the FedEx tracking and it says “delivered”. I went to the garage just now and there it is! The box looks a bit damaged but nothing too serious, at least not for something made of latex. I’m now going to open it up to decompress but I have to wait for my Ergo advanced mechanical bed which comes on June 4th. By that time the mattress should be stretched out to spec. Exciting time!!

I will edit this because it only took me 15 minutes to load the box on my dolly, bring to my bedroom and unpack. It looks great! The weight is total dead weight so it seems much heavier than the 130lbs listed but I believe that weight is correct. Nonetheless, I could not carry it alone up flights of stairs but I had no steps to my bedroom and with my dolly it was a piece of cake. I unwrapped it and it puffed up to what looked like spec right away. However, the instructions in the box said to give it 24-48 hours in a warm room before using so that is what I will do (as I said before, my base won’t get here until June 4 so it will have plenty of time to fully decompress). I believe by that time the fairly strong chemical smell will leave the mattress as well. I can’t wait until the 4th!

Yes we slept on the polyfoam base the first night about 10 hours after it was unpacked. We will sleep on the complete mattress tonight about 10 hours after the latex was delivered. I think 24-48 hours is way overkill. It looks like it’s fully decompressed in a matter of minutes!

I think you are right about the overkill. I just measured it after only a couple hours after I unpacked it and the measurement is a full 10". That is right where it should be so I have to assume the decompression is complete.

My bed is less than 4 hours away. So hopefully it will be here tomorrow. I guess I will have to wait until Saturday night to give it the 24 hours to sleep on it. Should I also wait 24 hours before I put on the mattress protector?

I’m laying down on the new alexis to go to sleep as I type this and it’s only been 10 hours since it was unwrapped. If it’s not fully decompressed by now, I would be shocked. You’ll see when you get yours…

The bed is here. Thank goodness I live in a single story house. And the Fed Ex guy brought it up the front steps. I must say the box was pretty much destroyed. The mattress isn’t damaged though. As soon as I got it on the base and started to unroll it from the outer plastic wrap at about the half way point it began to expand. It has only been a half hour and its at full depth I think. I plan on sleeping on it tonight. The enclosure doesn’t say not to, just that it can take 24 - 48 hours to reach full expansion. Haven’t opened the box with the mattress protector and presumably the pillows. Needed to take a break from the pulling, pushing and tugging.