Hi, I removed all the layers over the pocket coils on a pretty old Beautyrest W Hotel bed. There’s a steel bar that goes around the top edge with staples/clips attaching it to the outer coils on top, pictures attached. Do you know if it is necessary to keep this bar to maintain the integrity of the pocket coil system as a whole? Thanks!
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Hey Farlz,
Welcome to the Mattress Underground 
! Thanks for your question.
Congrats on your new DIY project! I’m intrigued with what you’re doing here; how did you come by this former W Hotel resident and what are your plans?
The steel bar featured in your pic is a border rod, an integral part of this bed’s edge support system. There should be the same type bar at the bottom of the bed too; the outermost coils are attached to it on all four sides, providing the shape and form for your foundation. You would want to keep it intact. Looking forward to hearing more and feel free to share progress pics for the other DIYers to enjoy 
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Thanks,
Sensei
Lol I wish I had a more exciting story, but we bought this W Hotel bed (Simmons Beautyrest) from their online store many years ago, I think 14. About 2.5 years ago we bought a Sleep on Latex soft 9" mattress but returned it, it was ok for side sleeping but whenever I ended up on my back I would get lower back pain from sinking down too much. We went back to the W for a while and decided to get the Sleep on Latex medium a few months ago. Better for back sleeping, but now it was crushing my shoulders during side sleeping. They suggested adding a topper so I bought a 2" soft - somewhat better but reintroduced lower back pain :(. I started doing more research and was intrigued by the mattress surgery option so went for it. Tried the 2" soft latex topper over the pocket coils but it was too firm, shoulder pain. Decided to get a Brooklyn Bedding 2" 5lb topper to put between the coils and the latex layer and that just came and we’ve used it 2 nights. My wife says of everything we’ve tried so far this is the best. I’m still getting used to it, might be ok but might be too much sink, wondering if 1" soft latex would be better than the 2", or maybe try no latex and just the foam, but I’ll give it more time first. Any advice is surely welcome. Thanks!
Hey Farlz,
Thanks for the DIY update .
No advice in particular as it sounds like you and your wife are doing a good job of making personal comfort/ PPP experiments and working towards some future decisions. As long as neither of you are having discomfort or pain, give your new configuration a good sleep trial and keep us updated on how things go. Wishing you both better sleep .
Thanks,
Sensei
Hi Sensei. It’s looking like I do need some advice, I’m not sleeping well and I think it’s because my hips sink too much. I’m 5’8" 165 and my wife is 5’7" 140. I think I’m at at the information overload stage. My current thought is maybe the 14 year old springs are shot and I should replace them with the L&P Combi-Zone. I could also swap out either or both of the toppers, 2" Sleep on Latex soft and mattresstopper.com (Brooklyn Bedding) 2" 5lb memory foam (under 30 day return policy). Or I can forgo the DIY altogether. Not sure how to proceed except that I won’t be doing any in-store testing.
After ready this in the comfort layer overview I’m trying the 2" memory foam over the 2" latex tonight: “Thin layers of memory foam may need a slightly softer support layer with more progressive resistance underneath it (a material that is softer on top with initial compression and becomes firmer more quickly with progressively deeper compression)”
Hey Farlz,
[quote]After ready this in the comfort layer overview I’m trying the 2" memory foam over the 2" latex tonight: “Thin layers of memory foam may need a slightly softer support layer with more progressive resistance underneath it (a material that is softer on top with initial compression and becomes firmer more quickly with progressively deeper compression)”
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Good to hear that you’re experimenting with the materials you have on hand Thanks for sharing your comfort layering experiment update; keep us posted and hope this configuration provides better support for your hips…
Thanks,
Sensei