Thanks so much for the quick response, Pheonix, it’s much appreciated
This has been happening since we had the mattress delivered. I waited a few months to see if it would be different after the initial “break-in” period, but it didn’t get any better.
This is what it says on the retailer’s site:
A base layer of high-grade pre-compressed Swedish coils with a layer of German-made X-Pocket carbon steel micro-coils on top.
It comes in two firmness option, and I opted for the soft side for me and firm side for my husband. (above the microcoil is a layer of latex about 1 inch thick, the firm side has both firmer microcoils as well as latex.)
As for the specifics of the problems we are having, here’s an attempt to describe them:
Usually (depending on the mattress surface, the last mattress we had I also could only sleep on my side because of the sag - not enough back support) I like to be a back/side sleeper. I can’t sleep on my back on this current mattress because my back doesn’t feel supported (I think this is the issue anyway, my hips sink way down and my torso stays up. Only time I’ve been able to sleep on my back is when I’m literally propped up with three pillows when I’ve been sick with a cold). So, even if I start out lying on my back, I can never fall asleep like that and end up rolling onto my side. Also, I have to use a thicker pillow for side sleeping because of the shoulder issue, so this also makes it uncomfortable to sleep on my back (and I can’t keep switching pillow thickness every time I toss and turn). On my side, especially on my right side, I get an uncomfortable numbness in my shoulder. Left side seems a little better, but I don’t know why. I have slept a couple of times on my husband’s side - the nice thing about sleeping on the firmer side is that I can sleep on my back, but I still have the same shoulder issue on my side. The reason we liked this model originally (or really the Nordic II is what we liked at a different retailer - the retailer we purchased ours from said the difference is in the base coils, that ours are pre-compressed. However, when i checked the site of the other retailer who carries the Nordic II, those base coils are also pre-compressed, so I’m a bit confused as to the difference). We liked the microcoil model because the others (except for the all latex which was out of our price range) were too “bouncy” - we liked the stability of the nordic model.
When I explained the issue to the salesperson in the store, and he looked at my alignment on the other mattress combinations I tried, he said my shoulders weren’t sinking in very well, and that was probably what was causing the uncomfortable feeling in my shoulder. For reference, I’m 5’3", 145lbs, and I have relatively narrow shoulders and wide hips. My conclusion after trying all of the combinations is that my hips are heavy, so they sink in too far, and my shoulders don’t sink in at all. On other types of surfaces, futons, for example, even though I feel pressure on my hips, I can still sleep on my back, and my hips are high enough that my shoulders are totally comfortable. What I don’t understand is that my husband has a completely different body type. He is 5’9" approx 170-180lbs. very flat and muscular frame, and he also complains of shoulder problems. If this mattress isn’t right for either of our body types, I don’t really understand who it might be good for!
Last night I did an experiment: I put a foam pad (it’s one of those cheap foam tri-fold pads for guests to sleep on the floor) in between the latex/microcoil layer and the pre-compressed base coils. While it was not particularly comfortable (I hate feeling like I sink so far into the mattress that to roll over I have to use a whole lot of body strength) it did take care of the shoulder issue and I could even sleep on my back…I am thinking of getting a thinner foam mattress topper (maybe 1inch thick) and trying to fit that between the microcoil and base coil layer (not sure how well the mattress cover will close with the extra bulk, but worth a try I think!). I’m also thinking that perhaps a one inch layer of firm latex might also be even better and avoid giving that sinking feeling the foam has, and would also be a lot more economical than switching out the whole base coil layer for latex.
My favorite mattress of all time was a Sealy Posturepedic Cushion firm manufactured in about 2001. We switched that one for a queen (it was a full size), when we had our daughter three years ago. The queen was also a sealy posturepedic cushion firm of a newer model (got it practically new from a relative). It didn’t last…we ended up with two “holes” since it wasn’t double sided and they seemed to cheapen the materials - it was comfortable for the first few months and that was it. That was how I came across natural mattresses and BE, since I was also interested in something durable and long-lasting as well as free of all of the crazy chemicals, particularly the flame retardants.
What do you think? Does the info above help?
Thanks for your time and advice,