Personally I don’t think you can go wrong with the BME if you know you like the feel of a Latex/Foam hybrid mattress, the BME has a very high quality to price/value ratio.
The tricky part would be to know which firmness is best suited for your body type, weight and sleeping position since the BME is not sold at retail stores and similar setups are still only a guess of how the BME would actually feel in person.
Hi Everyone - just want you to know I love the Best Mattress Ever by Brooklyn Bedding. I’m an average 55 year old woman with a 9 to 5 and 2 dogs. I have to say with all the lengthy, glowing reviews about this mattress I was a little skeptical but no more. First it is pretty cool to see your bed expand after you take off the plastic (my first experience with a bed being delivered this way). As I have no issues with change I had no break in period - as soon as my head hit my pillow I took an involuntary 4 hour nap - it was like I fell asleep on a cloud. A latex mattress has a different feel - but it doesn’t. It"s firm but is isn’t. Its hard to describe it - even though it’s firm it also feels like it’s gently pushing you up - supporting you in all the rights places. I wake up and don’t have the normal aches and pains I had on my innerspring mattress. Not that all my aches and pains magically disappeared since I still have to sit in my chair at work or my couch - I just don’t have them when I wake up now since I’m getting the proper support. Even my dog who wakes up with the sun can’t get me up early any more! Another big reason to love my Brooklyn Bedding mattress! This company offers a 120 night free trial and I was glad they did but so didn’t need this. I needed help with the firmness level since this was my first latex mattress and Mario is so responsive - I like really rock hard beds but at 55 what was once comfortable in your 20s is no longer comfortable - so I wanted really firm with a little cushion - he suggested I get the medium since latex is naturally pretty firm & for my personal taste it is exactly what I wanted my bed to feel like. I also got a latex pillow from them and it is the perfect blend of comfy, squishy and supportive. Brooklyn Bedding offers such a quality product - I just can’t express how glad I am that I found Brooklyn Bedding and that I own their Best Mattress Ever!
Hi Jane Loves Brooklyn Bedding,
Thanks for taking the time to share your comments and feedback … and congratulations on your new mattress 
As you know you certainly made a great quality/value choice and it’s great to hear that your mattress worked out so well for you.
Phoenix
I also just ordered a BB medium king, anxiously waiting for shipment.
Over the past 6 months I’ve gone from looking at memory foam mattresses at Costco due to their excellent return policy, but was concerned about sagging or softening after a couple years from experience with same brand toppers. I was looking at the Serafina based on CReports which I now see was a blind recomendation. Then I started looking at traditional beautyrest mattresses at Sears because of the familiar feel and giving up on finding something better. I figured i could try one out in store and buy from one of the many sales at usmattress, but didn’t want to end up with the same body impressions current mattress has after a few years. Finally I started looking at online stores such as tuft and needle and the overall positive reviews. I might have bought a t&n with the amex offer if I had seen it earlier in November, but in the back of my head I was thinking about some of overly firm comments with the one size fits all model.
My wife heard an ad on the radio for BB and that started the research on latex mattresses and the quality of materials being used.
The only thing I don’t understand with BB is their 10yr, 1.5" body impression warranty. That 1.5" seems a little high compared to other online retailers and sounds like way beyond failure of top layer, possible haggling point to fix a defect.
Hi all,
I just wanted to thank everyone here for their comments and information, especially to Phoenix for all the helpful tips and this site in general.
After researching my options I have decided to order a BME from Brooklyn Bedding. Spoke with Mario yesterday and my wife and I will go with a medium (primarily back sleepers, I’m 185lb. and my wife about 140lb.) I will attempt to update this thread with a review after I’ve had it for awhile.
Interesting comment by JW above ^^^, Most people haven’t had this mattress for long, but it would be interesting to see what, if any, sagging occurs over a few years time. This forum is great, but one of its minor shortcomings is most folks will buy their mattress and then never visit this forum again. It would be nice to have access to long term reviews, but I can see how that’s difficult to achieve.
Thanks again, everyone!
Charles
Hi JW,
Congratulations on your new mattress
You certainly made a great quality/value choice and I’m looking forward to your comments and feedback once you’ve received it and have had the chance to sleep on it for a bit.
The depth of a warranty exclusion can vary depending on the materials and components in a mattress’ design. With mattresses that have a cover that is quilted with either natural or synthetic fibers or with quilting foam the most common warranty exclusions are in the range of 1.5" - 2" because the exclusion needs to take into account that quilting materials can also compress to some degree over time…
Mattresses that don’t have a quilted cover and that use high quality materials in the top layer such as latex or good quality memory foam usually have a warranty exclusion that is .75" - 1".
While a warranty is important to guard against manufacturing defects in the materials or components inside a mattress that can happen on rare occasions … I would also keep in mind that mattress warranties only cover manufacturing defects and they don’t cover the gradual (or more rapid in the case of lower quality comfort layers) loss of comfort and support that comes from foam softening that is the main reason that most people will need to replace their mattress. In other words warranties have little to do with the durability or useful life of a mattress or how long it may be until you will need to buy a new one. If there is an actual defect in the materials it will usually show up early in the life of the mattress but knowing the quality and durability of the materials in your mattress is always a much more reliable way to assess the durability and useful life of a mattress than the length of a warranty. There is more about mattress warranties in post #174 here.
While there is no way to quantify how long any mattress will last for a specific person or predict exactly when you will decide to replace it because it is no longer suitable or comfortable for you (because this is the only real measure of durability or the useful life of a mattress that really matters) because there are too many unknowns and variables involved that are unique to each person … if a mattress is well inside a suitable comfort/support range and isn’t close to the edge of being too soft when it is new (see post #2 here) and you have confirmed that it meets the minimum quality/durability specs that are suggested in the guidelines here (which your mattress exceeds) then it would be reasonable to expect a useful lifetime in the range of 7 - 10 years and with higher quality and more durable materials like latex or higher density memory foam or polyfoam (in the comfort layers especially) it would likely be in the higher end of the range or even longer and the chances that you would have additional “bonus time” would be higher as well.
Phoenix
quick question regarding the free latex pillows I’ve seen mentioned in this thread. How do you go about getting those? Is it a limited promotion or do you have to mention this site?
Hi cw2112,
They used to have a free pillow offer for customers that liked them on their facebook page but I don’t believe it’s a current promotion. They do have other promotions from time to time (such as during holidays) that they will inform you about if you are on their email list. In some cases they may also have promotions that are available to their current customers as well that may not be on their website that they will tell you about if you call them.
They also offer a 5% discount for the forum members here although I would keep in mind that multiple discounts can’t normally be “stacked” so when you talk with them they can inform you about any current promotions that will provide you with the greatest benefit.
Phoenix
I just took the plunge and ordered a medium king size mattress from Brooklyn Bedding. I chatted with Keaton online and he recommended medium firmness for my husband (stomach, side, and back) and myself (side and back). I also ordered one of their pillows. We purchased a Tuft and Needle about a month ago, and while my husband has no issues the mattress hurts my lower back and shoulders. I have broad shoulders and am a side sleeper. It never occurred to me they could make a mattress uncomfortable, but when I read “Five steps to your perfect mattress - Tips and tricks” on the website it made sense. My parents purchased a latex mattress a couple of years ago and I really liked the feel. The BB price point was just right for us, and I hope it works for us. I’ll update after we have a chance to sleep on it for a bit. This forum is great, thank you Phoenix.
Hi akp84,
Congratulations on your new mattress
You certainly made a great quality/value choice and I’m looking forward to your feedback once you’ve received it.
When I talked with them yesterday they were also excited about their new pillow (and sheets) that they’ve added to their website and I’m looking forward to your comments about it as well.
Phoenix
My wife and I just recently began sleeping on the brooklyn bedding soft mattress. (3 nights in) Before this we were trying the Leesa mattress. We slept on it for about a month and both concluded it was to firm for us. (we are 125 lbs, and 160 lbs. and primarily side sleepers.) So we’re trying this brooklyn bedding soft. It really is soft! My wife likes it and I think it might be a bit to soft. I’m going to give this a month also, but suspect I might end up switching to the medium firmness. Anybody here have experience with both of them? The reason I didn’t order the medium is my wife considered the Leesa to be like a rock. She was very sensitive to it’s firmness. From the reviews I’ve read online the firmess of the leesa is considered a medium, so that worried me. Any side sleepers sleeping on the medium?
Hi chadb97,
Congratulations on your new mattress … and thanks for the update.
I’m not surprised that the Brooklyn Bedding soft feels softer to you than the Leesa.
I would keep in mind that there are no “standard” definitions or consensus of opinions for firmness ratings and different manufacturers can rate their mattresses very differently than others so a mattress that one manufacturer rates as being a specific firmness could be rated very differently by another manufacturer. Different people can also have very different perceptions of firmness and softness compared to others as well and a mattress that feels firm for one person can feel like “medium” for someone else or even “soft” for someone else (or vice versa) depending on their body type, sleeping style, physiology, their frame of reference based on what they are used to, and their individual sensitivity and perceptions. There are also different types of firmness and softness that different people may be sensitive to that can affect how they “rate” a mattress as well (see post #15 here) so different people can also have very different opinions on how two mattresses compare in terms of firmness and some people may rate one mattress as being firmer than another and someone else may rate them the other way around. This is all relative and very subjective and is as much an art as a science.
While your own careful testing or personal experience is the most reliable way to know whether any mattress is a good “match” for you in terms of comfort, firmness, and PPP or how it compares to another mattress … when you can’t test a mattress in person then the most reliable source of guidance is always a more detailed phone conversation with a knowledgeable and experienced retailer or manufacturer that has your best interests at heart and who can help “talk you through” the specifics of their mattresses and the properties and “feel” of the materials they are using (fast or slow response, resilience, firmness etc) and the options they have available that may be the best “match” for you based on the information you provide them, any local testing you have done or mattresses you have slept on and liked or other mattresses you are considering that they are familiar with (which would likely include Leesa) based on the “averages” of other customers that are similar to you. They will know more about “matching” their specific mattress designs and firmness levels to different body types, sleeping positions, and preferences or to other mattresses that they are familiar with than anyone else.
Phoenix
Chad, we have a very similar story to yours.
We started out on the Leesa, but found it too firm for side sleeping.
This drove us to order a Brooklyn Bed Soft. It definitely has a lot of give. The good thing is I don’t feel the pressure spots on my hip bones and shoulders I feel when sleeping on the Leesa. What worries me now is that I seem to have developed a lower back soreness that may be due to the mattress. I’ve been switching between the Leesa and BB, and it seems things improve when I’m on the Leesa. The soreness occurs the morning after, though I think I do feel a bit of flex in my back when side sleeping. But, I’ll keep testing until I know for sure.
Brooklyn bed did tell me that their medium is “definitely softer” the the Leesa mattress. I don’t think I would switch out for a medium though since the “free return” can only be used once. So if the medium doesn’t work out, you are stuck with it. Pretty risk for a mattress you’ve never tried. It is a reasonable policy on their end I think since each return probably costs them a few hundred.
We have plenty of time left to test the BB, though my current thinking is if it doesn’t work out is to look into the Plush Kiss Bed that is also recommended. Since they offer a Plush and a Firm- their Plush may be slightly softer than Leesa’s one size fits all firmness. I’ll call them up for their input if that time comes.
Hi matressshopper123,
Thanks for the update.
While the most common cause for lower back pain is a mattress that is too soft … as you probably know there will be a break in and adjustment period with any new mattress (see post #3 here) and it’s not unusual to experience some “symptoms” during that time as your body gets used to a new sleeping surface that is different from what it’s used to so I would try and give any new mattress a month or so if possible (or at least a few weeks) until any “symptoms” have “stabilized” and are consistent before deciding deciding on any changes.
Phoenix
This thread seems like deja vu, except I started with a Casper and not a Leesa and switched to a soft Brooklyn Bedding. I too am a side sleeper and the Casper was too hard - I basically lost sensation in my arms and hands during the night and after a few days had to force myself to sleep on my back. yuck. Brooklyn Bedding was a miracle until my lower back began to hurt. I only sleep on one side of the mattress and was able to eliminate the pain by sleeping on the other side. Once broken in the mattress won’t provide enough support even though I really like the way it feels. Rather than take that risk of going to a medium and getting stuck, I decided to return the Brooklyn Bedding for a Spindle. Spindle costs more but if the medium doesn’t work out I can contact Spindle and figure out how to adjust the layers of the mattress so that it does. Spindle is a little more money than Brooklyn Bedding but I figure it’s worth paying extra to get a configurable latex mattress.
Thanks for the input everybody! I’m tempted to switch back to the Leesa because I’m having trouble getting over the feeling that my hips are sinking on the #bestmattressever-soft. (no lower back pain yet though) Today is 1 week with it, so I want to give it at least 1 more week. The last few nights both my wife and I have noted that we are feeling each other move. With the Leesa, I could probably have jumped on the mattress and my wife wouldn’t have felt me. So as of right now, I"m still sleeping on the #bestmattressever-soft, but will hold onto Leesa. Maybe adding a good thick mattress pad to the Leesa would help?
These trial periods are great! Way better to actually sleep on mattresses for an extended period of time, rather than try to make a decision on a mattress after laying on several of them for 5-10 minutes apiece.
Hi chadb97, matressshopper123, tdoyon,
I switched the last few posts to a new topic with a different and more relevant title because they were starting to stray outside the scope of the original topic they were posted in.
@ tdoyon
It sounds like the medium may have been a better firmness choice for you. It can be somewhat misleading to compare one company’s “medium” with the same “rating” with a different company because there are no “standard” definitions or consensus of opinions for firmness ratings and different manufacturers can rate their mattresses very differently than others so a mattress that one manufacturer rates as being medium could be either firmer or softer than another mattress made by a different manufacturer that is also rated as a “medium”.
In any case … congratulations on your new Spindle mattress
As you know they are also a great quality/value choice and I’m looking forward to your comments and feedback once you’ve received it and have had the chance to sleep on it for a bit.
@ chadb97,
I would keep in mind that the first two “P’s” in PPP (Posture and alignment, Pressure relief, and your Personal preferences) are what you “need” and the last “P” is about your personal preferences so if you aren’t experiencing any “symptoms” on a mattress (lower back pain or pressure points etc) that comments about what a mattress “feel like” may just be part of the initial adjustment period on a new mattress (see post #3 here). I would be cautious about changing a firmness level based on preferences alone because it may compromise what your body “needs” and any actual symptoms you experience (or lack of any symptoms) are the most reliable indication of whether a mattress is a good “match” for you. Don’t forget that you can’t “feel” a mattress when you are sleeping.
If a mattress is too firm and there are no soft spots or sagging in the mattress then a good quality topper or mattress pad can certainly be an effective way to add some additional softness, “comfort” and pressure relief to your sleeping system but the only way to know whether a specific mattress pad or topper in combination with your mattress is a good “match” for you in terms of PPP (Posture and alignment, Pressure relief, and your Personal preferences) would be based on your own careful testing or personal experience. If you can’t test the combination in person then there is always some risk and uncertainty involved in adding a mattress pad or topper because the specifics of the mattress itself along with your own body type, sleeping position, and preferences can affect which specific mattress pad or topper would be a suitable choice on any specific mattress.
The type of mattress pad or topper that you may wish to add would would be a preference choice rather than a “better/worse” choice and would depend on how much additional softness and pressure relief you would need and on the types of materials and the “feel” that you tend to prefer.
You can read a little more about fiberbeds and mattress pads (which use polyester fibers) in post #10 here and in post #2 here.
If you decide to make more significant changes to your mattress and add a topper then there is more information about choosing a topper in post #2 here and the topper guidelines it links to which along with a conversation with a reliable supplier that can provide you with good information about how their toppers compare to each other or to other toppers they are familiar with that are available on the market can help you use your sleeping experience as a reference point and guideline to help you choose the type, thickness, and firmness for a topper that has the least possible risk and the best chance for success.
Phoenix
I’m probably on day 100 of a medium BME and I’m still on the fence on whether I want to keep it. By itself it’s painfully firm for me. If I sleep ramrod straight on my back it’s somewhat tolerable, but any angle beyond that and it’s very uncomfortable. I’m using the memory foam topper that I already had which makes it OK but not great. The topper is around 3.5 inches, two layers, it was probably the firmest available which I got in a fruitless attempt to extend the life of my old mattress. I don’t know the brand since it’s just the foam without any tags.
I don’t know if I really want to exchange for the soft because I would be stuck with it if I don’t like it. I’m around 250 lbs which would imply I should stay away from soft mattresses, but I am also 6’7’’ with wide shoulders and have always tossed and turned into various positions when falling asleep.
I was interested in latex since I hate how hot the memory foam gets in the summer but maybe it’s not the material for me. It’s weird how when you press on it it’s soft until it’s suddenly not. I don’t know if that’s a general latex thing or due to the construction of the BME.
Hi david_a,
You certainly made a great quality choice and your mattress uses high quality materials that would be suitable for your weight range in terms of durability but the most important part of any mattress purchase is PPP (Posture and alignment, Pressure relief, and your Personal preferences) and the only way to know whether any mattress is a good “match” for your body type and sleeping style will be based on your own careful testing or personal experience.
The medium firmness would normally be “in the range” that had the best chance of success and would be most likely to be suitable for you based on “averages” but unfortunately each person is unique and not everyone fits inside the averages of other people even if they have a similar body type and sleeping style.
If I was in your shoes I would probably try your mattress without the topper for a few weeks (if you haven’t already) to give the mattress a chance to break in and for you to adjust to a sleeping surface that is different from what you are used to (see post #3 here) because the comfort layers in the mattress may be softer than your firm topper and your topper could be part of the cause of your discomfort. If you are experiencing pressure points in your shoulders then it’s also possible that your “symptoms” are a pillow issue rather than a mattress issue.
While it’s not possible to “diagnose” mattress comfort issues on a forum with any certainty because there are too many unique unknowns, variables, and complexities involved that can affect how each person sleeps on a mattress in terms of “comfort” and PPP (Posture and alignment, Pressure relief, and your Personal preferences) or any “symptoms” they experience … there is more about the most common symptoms that people may experience when they sleep on a mattress and the most likely (although not the only) reasons for them in post #2 here that may be helpful.
If your mattress is too firm then the information in post #2 here may also be helpful and I would make sure that you have a suitable support system under your mattress and also confirm that any mattress pad or mattress protector you are using isn’t contributing to the issues or “symptoms” you are experiencing as well.
Assuming that the materials in a mattress you are considering are durable enough for your body type and meet the quality/durability guidelines here (which they do) … the choice between different types and combinations of materials and components or different types of mattresses are more of a preference and a budget choice than a “better/worse” choice (see this article).
There is also more about the pros and cons of memory foam vs latex in post #2 here but the best way to know which type of material you tend to prefer is based on testing a range of mattress in different firmness levels in each category to see if you can identify any “pattern” in your preferences.
Every category of mattresses can include hundreds (or thousands) of different mattresses with different designs and different firmness levels so each category will generally include some mattresses that you will sleep well on and other mattresses that use the same type of materials and are in the same category that may be unsuitable for you to sleep on (regardless of which materials are used in the mattress).
In other words … how well the specific design of a mattress “matches” your body type and sleeping style in terms of Posture/alignment and Pressure relief/comfort is generally more important than the type of materials themselves (which is more of a preference based on the “feel” and response of different materials). Like most things … different people can have very different preferences.
Phoenix
Happy Holidays to all! I came across Brooklyn Bedding by accident and it has been so far the best experience. Due to a home renovation, we were not able to get a regular Queen size mattress thru our bedroom door. After much extensive research I found Brooklyn Bedding. Customer service which I thought was dead in all industries, my faith has been restored. I have had many many questions throughout the whole process and Mario in customer service has answered every single one in a timely manner. The reviews have been great throughout all sites on the internet. I finally placed my order today and look forward to receiving the mattress soon. Will be back with an update.