Hey Jerome… As someone who has tried both of these mattresses I was hoping you could provide a few additional details please.
Specifically regarding bounce or push back.(I think you can figure out where Im going with this :lol: ) Also you mentioned a new Casper topper. Was this option a freebie when you mentioned to them its firmness or did you have to pay for it, and how thick is it?
Lastly is there anything abut one or the other that would suggest to you that its durability may be better or worse between the two?
I don’t have any personal experience with either of them so I will leave the more subjective personal comparisons to JeromeJeromeJerome (although I don’t believe they have tried the new version of the Tuft & Needle) … but I can speak to the relative durability of each of them since durability is something that you can’t “feel” or see and can only be assessed based on knowing the type and quality of the materials inside a mattress.
The Casper uses 1.5" of synthetic latex in the top layer which would likely be a little more durable than the 2.8 lb polyfoam in the Tuft & Needle and then uses 1.5" of 4 lb memory foam in the middle layer which would likely be a little less durable than the 2.8 lb polyfoam in the Tuft & Needle and then both of them use 1.8 lb polyfoam in the base layer. Neither of them have any obvious weak links in the quality of their materials and overall I would say they would both be closely comparable in terms of durability.
A forum search on Tuft Needle Casper will also bring up all the forum posts that mention both of them as well (some of which have tried both).
In this thread you say, “there are also mattresses available from the members here that use 8” or 9" of synthetic latex in the same approximate price range and they have the ability to customize the layers both before and after a purchase. There are also latex hybrid mattresses available that use 3" of blended Talalay latex (which is a more costly material than either 4 lb memory foam or synthetic Dunlop latex) with a polyfoam base layer that are in a lower budget range than the Casper. "
Could you tell me what companies those are? Also, I tried out the tuft and needle mattress and it didn’t work out for me. they were incredibly wonderful about the return. A local charity (St. Vincent de Paul) picked up the mattress from the bedroom and T & N after emailing T &N the receipt from St Vinny’s, they promptly refunded my money.
p.s. Because the Casper and the T&N are different constructions and given Casper’s now 100 day refund policy, is it worth giving the Casper a try?
After a long time ‘making do’, we recently moved house and purchased a king-size Casper Mattress 3 weeks ago. So far our qualitative feedback is that it’s slightly too hard for me (195 lbs) and too soft for my wife (135 lbs). I suspect that, given the layered structure of the mattress, my wife is experiencing too much of the soft latex top layer and I’m settling down into the harder foam layers below.
So far, it looks like we might be returning it… We’ll see how next few weeks go!
For reference, our previous mattress was a $400 IKEA spring mattress, not particularly comfortable due to sagging areas where I habitually lay.
I’m sorry to hear that your Tuft & Needle mattress didn’t work out as well as you hoped for.
Two of the members here were making an “all synthetic latex” mattress at one point. One of them had two 4" convoluted layers and the other one had three 3" layers but neither one are making them any longer.
Some of the lower budget latex or latex hybrid mattresses I’m aware of are listed in posts #3 and #4 here.
Some of the other simplified choice mattresses besides Tuft & Needle and Casper are also listed in post #2 here and the first post in the same topic may be worth reading as well.
While I can certainly help with “how” to choose … It’s not possible to make specific suggestions or recommendations for either a mattress, manufacturers/retailers, or combinations of materials or components because the first “rule” of mattress shopping is to always remember that you are the only one that can feel what you feel on a mattress and there are too many unknowns, variables, and personal preferences involved that are unique to each person to use a formula or for anyone to be able to predict or make a specific suggestion or recommendation about which mattress or combination of materials and components or which type of mattress would be the best “match” for you in terms of “comfort”, firmness, or PPP (Posture and alignment, Pressure relief, and your own Personal preferences) or how a mattress will “feel” to you or compare to another mattress based on specs (either yours or a mattress), sleeping positions, health conditions, or “theory at a distance” that can possibly be more reliable than your own careful testing (hopefully using the testing guidelines in step 4 of the tutorial) or your own personal sleeping experience (see mattress firmness/comfort levels in post #2 here).
While the firmness level would be “somewhat similar” (they are both somewhere in a “medium” range), they use different combinations of materials so they will have a different “feel” but you are the only one that can decide whether trying the Casper (vs the many other options that are available to you) would be worth it to you.
Thanks for sharing your comments and feedback and I’m sorry to hear that your Casper mattress didn’t work out as well as you hoped for.
If you do decide to return it then I’m looking forward to finding out what you end up trying next … and of course to any other comments or questions you may have along the way.
hi there
i was wondering if anyone has had any experience yet with the new, fourth layer of the casper.
does it make any difference for a side sleeper (190lbs/86kg) with regard to shoulder pressure or “hitting” the base layer in the mattress? can it be considered to be a better fit (softer) now for a side sleeper with an athletic figure (wide shoulders)? thanks!
I’m guessing you’re referring to the new transition layer of 1.5" 2.5 lb. polyfoam on top of the 5" 1.8 lb. polyfoam support core (the core used to be 7" and there was no transition foam layer). While I don’t have the specifics on the IFD of this layer and I haven’t tried the products side by side, it certainly could be reasonable to assume that this transition layer could “soften” the transition from the upper comfort layers to the base support foam layer (and the fact that the base support foam layer is 2" thinner.).
With that being said, I would be very cautious about using someone else’s experience on any mattress (either positive or negative) as a meaningful source of guidance about how a mattress will feel for you because firmness and softness is very subjective and relative to different people (a mattress that feels firm for one person can feel soft for someone else) and each person can be very different. There are also different types of firmness and softness that different people may be more or less sensitive to (see post #15 here) and a mattress that is a “perfect” match for one person in terms of PPP (Posture and alignment, Pressure relief, or Personal preferences) may be completely unsuitable for someone else to sleep on … even if they are in similar weight ranges. Using other people’s mattress reviews or experiences as a meaningful source of research and information can often be more misleading than helpful (see post #13 here).
If you want to look, a forum search on Casper (you can just click the link) will bring up all the forum posts and feedback that mention them.