Charles P. Rogers

Hi LindaKD,

Unfortunately, the data you’ve provided isn’t complete and doesn’t contain in many instances meaningful information about the mattress in question. While the promotional nature of your posts will no longer be tolerated here on the forum, I’ll let your comments here stand as it allows me the opportunity to provide examples of the common mistakes that consumers unfortunately make when shopping for a mattress with incomplete information that they think is research.

The steps for shopping for a mattress are clearly laid out in the mattress shopping tutorial here, including all the basic information, steps, and guidelines that can help people make the best possible choice.

Two of the most important links in the tutorial are post #2 here which has more about the different ways to choose a suitable mattress (either locally or online) that is the best “match” in terms of “comfort”, firmness, and PPP (Posture and alignment, Pressure relief, and your own Personal preferences) that can help one assess and minimize the risks of making a choice that doesn’t turn out as well as hoped for, and post #13 here which has more about the most important parts of the “value” of a mattress purchase which can help with meaningful quality/value comparisons between mattresses in terms of suitability (how well you will sleep), durability (how long you will sleep well), and the overall value of a mattress compared to other finalists based on all the parts of your personal value equation.

Outside of PPP (which is the most important part of “value”), the next most important part of the value of a mattress purchase is durability which is all about how long you will sleep well on a mattress. This is the part of your research that you can’t see or “feel” and assessing the durability and useful life of a mattress depends on knowing the specifics of its construction and the type and quality of the materials inside it regardless of the name of the manufacturer on the label or how a mattress feels in a showroom or when it is relatively new so I would always make sure that you find out the information listed here so you can compare the quality of the materials and components to the durability guidelines here to make sure there are no lower quality materials or weak links in a mattress that would be a cause for concern relative to the durability and useful life of a mattress before making any purchase.

In the situation you’ve linked, the specifications are neither complete in quantity (listing all of the layers within the mattress) or quality (listing the density of polyfoam). Without this information it is impossible for any consumer to make an educated and informed decision about their mattress purchase. A similar situation occurred with a site member just a few days ago where they were provided incorrect/incomplete information on a CPR mattress (see post #9 here), and even the information on the specification card at the store was incomplete in listing all of the layers within the mattress and was incomplete in listing foam densities of the polyfoam within the mattress. Fortunately, the site member was able to gather the required information form a more informed salesperson (see post #12 here). With that information, a consumer could then begin to move forward and make more complete and logical comparisons and draw expectations of durability. After all, when trying out a mattress, one can not feel quality or durability, only initial comfort.

Videos can be a wonderful way to explore and learn about a product, but only when they are more detailed in the construction and include the information necessary to compare the quality of the materials within a mattress, as linked to previously, Unfortunately, these videos do not provide that information, so they are not a useful tool in assisting one in evaluating this mattress.

I am perfectly fine with that. But thank you for taking the time away from your work for these replies.

This is one of the biggest mistakes that consumers make – relying on the experiences of others and assuming that these would somehow be an accurate indicator of the applicability for a mattress to themselves. There are simply too many unknowns, variables, and personal preferences involved in choosing a mattress for someone else to make specific suggestions based on specs (either yours or a mattress) or theory at a distance that can possible be more accurate than your own careful and objective testing (using the testing guidelines in the tutorial post) which is always the most reliable way to predict which mattress will be the best match for you in terms of PPP (see mattress firmness/comfort levels in post #2 here).

I would be cautious about using anyone else’s suggestions, experiences or reviews on a specific mattress (either positive or negative) or review sites in general as a reliable source of information or guidance about how you will feel on the same mattress or how suitable or how durable a mattress may be for you. In many if not most cases they can be more misleading than helpful, because a mattress that would be a perfect choice for one person or even a larger group of people in terms of comfort, firmness, and PPP (Posture and alignment, Pressure relief, and your own Personal preferences) may be completely unsuitable for someone else to sleep on (even if they are in a similar weight range). In other words … reviews or other people’s experiences in general won’t tell you much if anything about the suitability, quality, durability, or “value” of a mattress for any particular person (see post #13 here).

“Recommendations” do much more harm than good by encouraging consumers to believe that their recommendation or the “feedbacks” of others is all that they need to find a suitable and good quality/value mattress, which absolves the consumer of engaging in any critical thinking or educated analysis of a product.

And promotional commentary, combined with dubious advice and snidely disparaging remarks, unfortunately has the opposite of its intended effect and ends up presenting a more negative light upon the very product that is at the center of the discussion, which in this case is unfortunate.

If you actually did purchase a new CPR (or any other) mattress, I do hope it works out well for you.

Phoenix