How to look for and find the best mattress ... for YOU! ***READ FIRST***

2024-01-20T08:00:00Z Read a enhanced version of the Article here

There are three versions of the tutorial in this article. The first section includes the most detailed and comprehensive version of the 5 steps involved in making the best quality/value choice. For those who want a less detailed and comprehensive version you can scroll down past this section for a simpler and less comprehensive version or you can scroll to the last section for the simplest version of all.

Buying a new mattress is one of the most important purchases you can make and there are few things that will have as big an effect on your overall well being over the next decade or so. Unfortunately … for most people, a mattress is a completely blind purchase and the vast majority of consumers know little to nothing about what really makes a good quality mattress or what to believe about the many claims and confusing and conflicting and even misleading information they will be exposed to. Even worse is that most “typical” salespeople also know very little about the quality of the materials in the mattresses they sell and are trained to sell mattresses using marketing techniques and “stories” they have been taught instead of specific and accurate information that gives consumers a way to make more meaningful comparisons and choices.

If you start to ask for meaningful, factual information from most retailers about the quality of the layers in their mattresses (such as foam densities) … especially if it is a major brand (the ones that you will see advertised) … you will usually see eyes start to roll or glaze over as they realize that you probably know more about mattresses than they do. There are very few major purchases that are as blind as a mattress or where the people who sell them know so little about what really makes a good quality product. An hour or two spent on this site though reading some of the basics can give you more meaningful information than most of the salespeople in the mainstream industry that sell mattresses.

There is a great deal of information in this tutorial (and there is a shorter summary at the end) and the posts and information it links to and I would encourage you to read it like you would a good book rather than “study” it like you would a textbook. Too much technical information that you “study” in too much detail can quickly lead to “information overwhelm” and “paralysis by analysis” and too little information can lead to a blind purchase and buying a mattress that is either low quality for your budget range or poor value. Both can lead to poor choices.

I would start with reading the complete tutorial itself to get a general sense of the steps involved and then going back and reading the linked pages that it also includes. The goal is not to turn you into an “expert” but to provide you with enough basic information that you can recognize when you are dealing with an expert who already knows what you would otherwise need to learn and can provide you with the information you need to make an informed decision and has your long-term best interests at heart. There is little point in learning what they have taken years to learn and already know and are happy to share with you.

The forum search can also be a very useful tool to help you find the information you are looking for or if you come across information or claims that you are unsure about and you need a “fact check”. There is more about searching the forum in the help section. Of course if you can’t find the information you are looking for then questions on the forum are always welcome and I (or another Expert Member of our site) will be happy to answer any questions you have or link you to a post or article that has answered your questions previously.

There are many “needs” and many “preferences” in a mattress purchase and post #4 here outlines the ideal “end result” of a mattress purchase that is “perfect” for you.

A mattress is only as durable as its weakest link and knowing that every layer of your mattress uses good quality materials that are appropriate for your budget and weight/BMI range is one of the most important parts of buying a good quality/value mattress. You can’t “feel” quality or durability because even the lowest quality materials can be very comfortable in the highly managed environment of most mattress showrooms. The quality or durability of a mattress can only be predicted if you know the details about what is in the mattress and have a way to know what these details mean or someone to “translate” them for you. Many foam materials such as memory foam or polyfoam have higher quality/density and more durable versions and lower quality/density and much less durable versions even if the actual type of material and how it feels is the same (see the durability guidelines here)

The good news though is that there are some steps you can take to greatly shift the odds in your favor of finding a high quality mattress that fits your needs and preferences (what I call PPP or Posture and alignment, Pressure relief, and Personal preferences) and has much better value than what you will find if you only “follow the advertising” or shop for major brands at mass market retailers or chain stores. The “secret” is knowing where to look and what to look for.

We are each unique in our needs and preferences. As one of our members recently wrote in this thread … there really are no shortcuts … only ways that you can eliminate the frustration, confusion, and “information overwhelm” of mattress shopping and perhaps … with the right help … turn it into a pleasure.

So for those who want the best possible quality and value and want to find and work with “experts” that have the experience, knowledge, service, and integrity to give you good information and help you find your “perfect” mattress … these steps are for you. The time you spend reading them, the confidence they will give you, and the time and money they will end up saving you will help you more than anything else you could do when you are first starting out with your mattress research.

STEP 1: Gather some basic information about mattress materials and construction which can help you ask better questions and help you to identify the people who know what they are talking about. Scanning (not studying) the overviews in the mattresses section will help with this. For those who wish more detailed information, the additional pages in each section may also be of interest along with questions on the forum may be helpful but they may be more complex than you need and this is not really necessary if you connect with people who already know what you would otherwise need to learn. An hour spent reading the overviews will give you more knowledge about mattress materials and construction than many of the salespeople who sell mattresses at mainstream outlets and will give you the knowledge to ask more meaningful questions.

STEP 2: Know how to eliminate the worst choices so you can focus on the better ones. I would start with this overview of the industry which along with this article should help you bypass many of the retailers or major manufacturers that are really not worth your time and effort or the frustration and confusion they will cause trying to track down meaningful information that you need to make an informed decision … especially the chain stores and mass market or mainstream retailers. It’s also a good idea at this stage to decide on the mid range of your budget (see this article). This is the price you would prefer to stay under for a mattress purchase but would go slightly over if there was a particularly compelling reason to do so (based on the quality/value of a mattress or because it was so much better in some way than anything else available to you). Keep in mind that a mattress is not primarily a luxury item but something that is necessary to help you sleep as well and deeply as possible and “luxury” has little to do with how well you sleep or what your body feels. I would also decide at this stage about the general types of mattresses and materials that you are most interested in testing (see this article).

STEP 3: Do some initial research into the local manufacturers and better sleep shops within reasonable driving distance. This article (or the fact that they are a member of this site or comments on the forum) will help you identify them (if you buy from one of the Trusted Members of our site make sure you let them know you are a consumer member of the forum so you can receive your discount or bonus). For those who don’t know of any better options or possibilities in their area … a forum search on the nearest major city will often provide you with some “listings” of options that have been discussed in particular geographical areas, which we will occasionally update. We have decided to discontinue the provision of listings of potential retailers in various geographic regions (unless they are already approved site members), because of the difficulty in maintaining such lists in a retail landscape that is constantly changing, and most importantly the confusion it was creating with the consumer members who incorrectly assumed that these businesses had indeed gone through the strict qualification process and were approved as members of The Mattress Underground. Such an assumption is unfair to both the consumers seeking assistance, as well as the very businesses and manufacturers who meet the criteria to become Trusted Members of The Mattress Underground.

Who you buy from and their knowledge and ability to help you make the most suitable and high quality/value choices that best match your needs and preferences can also be one of the most important parts of a successful mattress purchase. I would always phone and talk with any retailer or manufacturer you plan to visit before you actually visit them so you have a reasonable idea of the level of knowledge and service you can expect when you go there. The information you will need about any mattress you are seriously considering is in this article (you can print this out and take it with you).

STEP 4: Connect with the “experts” at the better stores near you who are completely transparent about their mattresses and can help you identify the types of materials, components, and layering that best fits your needs and preferences and that will match all the most important parts your “personal value equation” (see post #46 here) and that have the best value within your budget range. When you can’t test a mattress in person then the most reliable source of guidance is always a more detailed phone conversation with a knowledgeable and experienced retailer or manufacturer that has your best interests at heart and who can help “talk you through” the specifics of their mattresses and the properties and “feel” of the materials they are using . When choosing something online, it’s important to deal with experienced, educated and helpful manufacturers who have the knowledge to guide you through the process and find something that they honestly think will fit your specific sleeping positions, somatotype, BMI and individual needs. Post #2 here and this topic have more about the pros and cons of a local vs an online purchase. Make sure you also check for the various policies or benefits of dealing with the merchant which may provide additional value with your purchase (including any return or exchange policies). Use their help and guidance to help you test for PPP (Posture and alignment, Pressure relief, and Personal preferences).

Remember when you are testing that comfort (pressure relief and subjective “feel”) is mostly what you feel when you go to bed at night, support (spinal alignment) is mostly what you feel when you wake up in the morning (either with or without back pain and discomfort), and quality/durability (the type and quality of each layer and component in the mattress) is all about how your mattress will feel and perform in a year or two (or hopefully much longer) down the road. There is more about primary support, secondary support, and pressure relief and how they are related to each other in post #4 here.

As you can read in post #174 here … warranties only cover manufacturing defects and won’t tell you anything about the quality, durability, or useful life of your purchase and are mostly about marketing. Post #2 here goes into more depth about all the important parts of a “successful” mattress purchase.

Some suggestions for testing for pressure relief are in this article and for testing for alignment (which is a little more difficult) are in this article and in post #11 here. There are also some great suggestions in Post #1 here. I would also remember that testing for more subjective perceptions of “comfort” alone has less than a 50/50 chance of making the most suitable choice (see this study) so more careful and objective testing is one of the most important parts of a successful mattress purchase.

Keep in mind as well that other people’s experiences on a mattress may have little to no bearing on your own and a mattress that is suitable for one person may be completely unsuitable for someone else. This means that your own testing or experience is the most reliable way to find a suitable mattress regardless of how well it may work for someone else. Post #2 here about making comfort choices along with post #13 here about mattress reviews would also be well worth reading.

Again … I would always make sure that a mattress you are considering uses good quality materials and there are no lower quality materials or weak links relative to your weight/BMI range in any mattress you are seriously considering that could compromise the durability and useful life of the mattress (using the durability guidelines here) no matter how it may feel in a showroom and then you will be in a good position to choose your “finalist” at each manufacturer or retailer you are working with.

There is also more about the most important parts of the “value” of a mattress purchase in post #13 here that can help you make more meaningful comparisons between mattresses.

STEP 5: Narrow down the list of “finalists” at each retailer or manufacturer based on all the factors and tradeoffs that are most important to you based on the suitability of a mattress in terms of comfort, firmness, and PPP, the durability of the materials in the mattress, and all the other parts of your personal value equation that are most important to you. At this stage all your choices will likely be good ones (and better than anything that most consumers end up purchasing or that you would have found with a major brand or at a mass market outlet). While narrowing them down to one can be difficult … in the end you may need to just close your eyes, grit your teeth … and pull the trigger based on smaller differences that are important to you. At this point it’s much more likely that any of your choices would be suitable and the one you choose may just have some fine detail that tips the balance. There is more about making a final choice in post #2 here.

OPTIONAL: In those areas of the country where there are no better quality and/or value choices available … then I would look online and use the experience and expertise of our Expert Members of the site or of any of the the members listed in post #21 here who are all very experienced and knowledgeable and specialize in providing the type of help and guidance on the phone that can help you make good choices. There are a wide range of latex and memory foam and other options included in the choices there and I believe that all of them compete well with the best in the industry in terms of their quality, value, service, and transparency.

Their detailed knowledge of their mattresses and how they fit with different body types and sleeping positions along with your feedback from local testing, a customer base of many people that they can use as reference points, and any exchange, return, or any options they have available to customize a mattress after a purchase can help lower the risk of an online purchase. These online retailers or manufacturers can also be a good “value reference” for local purchases to make sure that if you are paying a “premium” for a local purchase (in exchange for the kind of “in person” guidance, service, and value that comes with dealing with a local retailer that can help you make more “accurate” choices that you have tested in person) is not too high.

Post #2 here and this topic have more about the pros and cons of a local vs an online purchase.

In addition to the online members of the site listed in the previous membership link … post #12 here has some of the better online memory foam options for those who are looking for a memory foam mattress.

For those that have a more restricted budget then post #4 here and the posts it links to also include many of the better lower budget online options I’m aware of as well.

Posts #1 and #2 in this topic also includes more information about the new "breed’ of “simplified choice” mattresses (aka “one choice fits all” or “universal comfort” or “bed in a box” or “disruptor” or “millennial” mattresses) that are available online as well that are typically in a budget range of between $600 and $1000 (queen size).

There is also a list of online mattress sources for Canadians in post #21 here.

There is also more about the different ways of choosing a suitable mattress and how to identify and lower the risks that may be involved in each of them in post #2 here.

Hopefully this will help you bypass most of the misleading information, confusion, and frustration of mattress shopping, connect with people who put your long term interests above their own, and of course … you are always free to post on the forum if you have any questions along the way.

One step at a time (and not skipping any of the steps) is the most effective way to find “your perfect mattress” and has by far the highest chances of success :slight_smile:
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2024-01-20T08:00:00Z Read a enhanced version of the Condensed Mattress Tutorial here

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For those who want a SIMPLER VERSION of the 5 steps in this tutorial …

Step 1: Gather some basic working knowledge about mattresses and materials by spending an hour or two doing some preliminary reading of this tutorial and the information it links to. Read it like you would a good book and don’t “study” it like you would a textbook for a course.

Step 2: Decide on your budget range and the materials and types of mattresses you are most interested in testing, learn the most important things to look for and avoid (see the guidelines here).

Step 3: Use your new found basic knowledge to identify the most knowledgeable and experienced retailers or manufacturers that are within reasonable driving distance and who can help “educate” you and “inform you” about their mattresses and will provide you with the information you need about what is inside their mattresses rather than those that are only interested in “selling you” whatever they can convince you to buy. The “best” manufacturers and retailers will be completely transparent about the materials and components inside their mattresses and will already know what you would otherwise need to learn. Who you choose to deal with can be one of the most important parts of a successful purchase. You are always free to ask on the forum about any of the better options or “possibilities” in your area.

Step 4: Test the mattresses at the stores you decide to visit using the testing guidelines in this tutorial (the links to the testing guidelines are in step 4 above) to decide on the different types of mattresses and materials that you prefer and narrow the choice down to 1 at each manufacturer or retailer based on which one is the best match for you in terms of PPP (Posture and alignment, Pressure relief, and Personal preferences). Only you can feel what you feel on a mattress and people with different body types, sleeping positions, or preferences can make very different choices from each other (see post #2 here). Be very cautious about using reviews about how a mattress feels or other people’s experience on a mattress as a reliable source of guidance because each person is unique (see post #13 here). What is “way to firm” for one person can be “way to soft” for the next. The most important parts of the “value” of a mattress purchase are in post #13 here which can help you make more meaningful comparisons between mattresses.

Step 5: At this point you should be down to your finalists and be making a final choice between mattresses that are all a good match for you in terms of PPP, have no weak links in their materials or design, and are all choices between “good and good” that would likely work well for you.

Optional Step: If you are comfortable with an online purchase … talk with any of the online retailers or manufacturers that sell the types of mattresses your testing or local research indicates you are most interested in and include them in your finalists or use them as a “value reference point” for a local purchase. The optional online step includes links to several lists of the better online options I’m aware of. There is also more about the different ways to choose a mattress (either locally or online) in post #2 here that can help you identify and minimize the risks involved with each of them.
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2024-01-20T08:00:00Z Read a enhanced version of the Mattress Tutorial Summarized here

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For those who want the SIMPLEST VERSION OF ALL …

Choosing the “best possible” mattress for any particular person really comes down to FIRST finding a few knowledgeable and transparent retailers and/or manufacturers that sell the types of mattresses (see this article) that you are most interested in (either locally or online) and that can provide you with all the information you need to know to make an informed choice and make meaningful comparisons between mattresses and then …

1. Careful testing (hopefully using the testing guidelines in this tutorial) to make sure that a mattress is a good match for you in terms of “comfort”, firmness, and PPP … and/or that you are comfortable with the options you have available to return, exchange, or “fine tune” the mattress and any costs involved if you can’t test a mattress in person or aren’t confident that your mattress is a suitable choice.

2. Checking to make sure that there are no lower quality materials or weak links in a mattress you are considering relative to your weight/BMI range that could compromise the durability and useful life of the mattress (see the durability guidelines here)

3. Comparing your finalists for “value” based on #1 and #2 and all the other parts of your personal value equation that are most important to you.

Phoenix

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Need help with choices plz! Information overload!
Aireloom Equestrian Medium Latex
Mattress on a budget--> feedback needed ASAP
Mattress Decision
Looking for retailers in Kentwood, MI area
Want to buy a mattress for my daughter
$100 off $500+ Tuft & Needle Purchase - AMEX Credit Card Holders
What are you thoughts on this matress
Beautyrest Recharge World Class Teagan Luxury Firm Pillowtop King Mattress Set
Help me pick btwn 2 cheap mem foam mattresses?
Seeking updated mattress shopping suggestions in the Indianapolis area
Parklane Quimby vs Pettygrove
Reverie
Love the feel of the Airloom but....
advice on mattress selection: innerspring vs latex (natural or synthetic) vs latex (w/coconut)
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Hybrid Innerspring w Latex -Texas
Info on Beautyrest Phenom Crossover FM King
Factory Direct Mattresses in the Toronto, ON and GTA area
Looking for Mattress store near Ocala
Any thoughts on this mattress? (Groupon)
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Utah mattress shopping
Rest-O-Pedic, luxury pillow top mattress
Mattress for bad shoulders
Latex mattress
Help for arthritic hips and bed choice
Help/Suggestions: Leesa Mattress v. Brooklyn Bedding's Best Mattress Ever
Saatva vs Charles Rogers power estate 7000 vs parklane the alder vs design sleep
Bed suggestion
I give up, just can't decide on my next mattress. I've been through a few..
Please help - overwhelmed newbie!
A little overwhelmed - help me pick out a < $1000 mattress
Question about mattresses
Want to buy a new latex mattress, but a little nervous
Looking for a retailer
Shopping around and could use some advice.
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Spinal Stenosis
I've put in the hours researching, but still need some help
Mattress for 1-5 years?
Which Type Mattress are perfect for Back pain?
Stearns & Foster headache... Suggestions?
Help on purchasing first memory foam
Loom and Leaf vs. other brands
Beautyrest Black Kate Luxury Firm Pillow Top Mattress vs Winkbed?
Large man in search for bed
Looking for new softer Memory Foam/Gel Mattress.... Suggestions?
What is the equivalent to Simmons Beautyrest Medalist?
CozyPure Mattress
Sleepless in Austin
Help! Condo rental mattress Suggestions for the "Average"
Best ultra firm mattress
Suffer From Chronic Lyme Disease, Chronic Fatigue and Adrenal Fatigue
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BB Best Matress Ever....or something else? advice needed
Help with back pain on new Sealy Mattress
Wading through all the information
Latex Mattress Recommendations
Mattress Buying Advice in Virginia Beach (Preferably Memory Foam)
Selectfoam v. Novosbed v. Rocky Mountain
Latex Matress from the web
Why is some memory foam very greasy feeling, like it's wet?
Charles P. Rogers Powercore 9000 vs. NANO
Loom and Leaf vs. other brands
Was looking at Lucid Mattress (14" Plush)...but then I found this site. Phoenix - Please Help
Help choosing a mattress, I have a sore back
Confused on selecting new mattress
Casper Mattress vs T&F vs Leesa
essentia latex memory foam is legit (vs normal memory foam)?
Saatva mattress- 14" vs. 11" and foundation 4" vs. 8" also soft vs. medium
How does one pull the trigger and buy a memory foam mattress?
All Organic Latex Mattress Med Firm (ILD 33 -37)
Help needed!
Looking for a Firm Queen Bed mattress in jersey city, new jersey
Question for Phoenix
Small Town Mattress Hunt
Life after Tempurpedic in Seattle?
mattress confusion
Help paring down mattress options
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Side Sleepers looking for Soft/Plush Mattress Recommendations!
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Share a bed with my S/O. I sleep on my side, she sleeps on her stomach. What are our best options?
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Arctic dreams 10" cooling gel mattress
Any mattress Black Friday deals?
Newbie Matress Shopper; Help Needed
Latex Mattress Shopping. Should I be this stressed?
back and side sleeping
healthy comfortable mattress
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Online Mattress Ease
Hot and Sore
Any comparable mattresses to the Aireloom Preferred Moonlight Silver Night Firm
Looking for some mattress latex manufacturers to buy a bed
CozyPure Mattress
Where to go for a organic latex mattress?
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Still trying to pick a latex mattress.....
Still trying to pick a latex mattress.....
Layer recommendation and SavvyRest vs SleepEZ
Green Choice Meditation mattress
Please please we need some advice and furtger guidance.
Tempur Cloud Deluxe 22 alternatives?
Real Latex Premium $$$$
Can I get a decent latex King mattress for $1,000-1,200?
SomniGel Mattresses
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Mattress for my mom
Buying My First Mattress; Advice Needed!
DreamfoamBedding UD Aria / Tuft & Needle
Sealy Posturpedic Pillow Top Mattress
Similar to Tempurpedic Contour Supreme HD or Contour Elite
Budget Beds for Teens
Latex Mattress Help
overwhelmed and frustrated - please help me find a suitable mattress
Looking to upgrade King Mattress, Likely mail order (central nebraska)
Europe Brands
Buying a new mattress in Jacksonville!
Buying latex mattress and Japan
Welcome to our forum
Separate Topper vs Taller Mattress and 3 vs 4 layers?
Considering a WinkBed and an adjustable base
Urban Mattress - Uptown
I'm looking for a store in the Seattle Everett area to buy a quality mattress
Does the King Koil Laura Ashley line outgas?
Separate Topper vs Taller Mattress and 3 vs 4 layers?
Looking for advice in Idaho
Saatva mattress review and analysis
Mattress Shopping! Any advice?
CarpeDiem -->Naturepedic-->Soaring Heart-->Flobeds - need help deciding
Information overlaod
Which Beautyrest Hybrid?
Nest Bedding Honest Beds Cool Sleeper vs. ????
Buying Online
Area Limitations for finding mattress values
Back pain on new organic latex mattress: seeking advice after multiple mattress exchanges
Opinions or guidance on mattress choices
organic latex mattress options
Help with partial or full latex bed under 2K for a king
Nest Alexander showroom visit
Obese mattress shopping
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Just starting out
Pure Talalay Bliss latex mattress
Need advice. Buying my first Foam Mattress... HELP! I'm sinking.....
Costco Mattress Battle Royale
Latex mattress and base in Melb, Australia. What questions should I ask?
DIY Savvy Rest Serenity. Opinions?
What is the real story here?
Ideas on mattress for weird sleeper?
This Zoombie need sleep
Looking at coil/foam and possible adjustable base
Totally overwhelmed when buying a mattress
Help with Online Mattress Choice
Help...bought the wrong mattress!
Amount/type of foam help + Latex!
Dormeo Octaspring Mattress
Quality supplier in NC
Natural Latex vs Certi-Pur foam vs Oeko-Tex manufactured latex?
Seeking mattress advice
Where to begin
layers?
300 pounds of human
Latex Mattress Questions - Brick and Mortar vs Online
Good value with low motion transfer?
Firm or medium for lower back pain?
Essentia
Frustrated and in so much pain
Recommendation for bed type for fibromyalgia & arthritis pain
searching for the one
help. Going on 4th mattress
Searching for a Mattress on Vancouver Island
Anyone have experience with Aviya Mattress?
Something like Sealy Optimum Destiny Memory Foam
Short Listed Mattress Advice Needed (Ghostbed, Luxi, Oso)
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Memory foam option: Pure Crafted Truessence, Amerisleep Colonial/Independence, others?
Which mattress?!
Mattress Firm Regret
Amerisleep Revere VS Tempur Pedic Cloud Supreme Breeze
iComfort Hybrid vs. Posturepedic Hybrid
Novosbed reviews
Tempurpedic vs Novosbed vs Christeli
Would using a topper help in selecting a mattress?
Are mattresses of different firmnesses the same except for their topper?
Blackice Memory foam alternative
Saatva mattress
Looking for Mattress in Melbourne Florida (32903) Area (outside Orlando).... stuck with sagging Serta =(
Regretted buying a Dormeo 6700, need some help!
Most Economical Non-Toxic Mattress (for a tween)?
HELP TO DECIDE ON THE RIGHT MEMORY FOAM MATTRESS
Matress problems...time for a replacement?
Sherwood / Urban Mattress v. Latex
Broad question!
looking for a latex mattress as i hear its great for the lower back
Looking for my first "real" mattress with my soon to be wife, have a few questions/thoughts.
Mattress suggestions to address pressure point issues (among other things)
trustworthy in oregon
Quality comparison ?
Need help - I just put down a deposit on a Beauty Rest Black - should I get my money back while I can?
What matress is similar to the Tempurpedic Countour Elite?
How to find local manufacturers and showrooms
Saatva mattress by Loom & Leaf
Desperate for: Pressure-point relief
Need your HELP!!! Leesa vs. Lull vs. Brooklyn vs. Ghostbed
King-size latex mattress firmness
Buying for a large guy
Help!! Shoulder Probelms With New Mattress
Mattress for back & neck pain
Spinal alignment for side sleeper
Beds By Design in Harbor Springs, MI
Looking for a Contour Elite Breeze "feel-alike (ish.)"
Buying for a large guy
choosing latex mattress
Select Foam Grandis HD- Is it Worth the Poor Customer Service???
Need help evaluating mattress choices
WARNING: Select Foam has been removed from the TMU membership list
Christeli Versailles 10" vs Sleepwarehouse Sensus or Aerus
natural latex mattress--which one??
Best Bed in a Box - So many options. Leesa Mattress or Tuft and Needle
Big boy with bad back
AVOID the Omaha Bedding Company. The customer service could not be worse.
VOCs/off-gassing despite Certi-PUR certification
Side sleeper w/ hip pain: Urban Mattress vs. Prana, firm vs. soft?
Bedfast Nana needs new mattressThanks for your help. Due to chronic illness I became bedfast almost 24-hours per day, especially with pain, temperatu
which mattress?
Zenhaven's Like a Rock...Suggestions?
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Latex mattress not available locally - found two online choices - HELP
Advise on thickness and firmness of mattress
New Leesa mattress too firm and too hot
Mattress "feel" shopping questions
Best kids mattress from a big retailer :/
Recommended mattress from Yankee Mattress
Best kids mattress from a big retailer :/
Narrowed down to Brooklyn Bedding #BestMattressEver but have a few questions
NYC mattress - Scott Jordan vs. Nest
Mattress Decision
Mattress for Pressure Relief--Grateful for all advice
Recommendation on retail stores in SAN Francisco East Bay
Buying a Serta Suite Dreams from Hilton: a cautionary tale
Anyone tried a Latex Spring Hybrid?? (ex: Mattreses.net Hybrid w/Paralux/Slow Recovery Latex)
Mattress for L5-S1 Disc Herniation
Looking for a new Mattress...Help!! :)
Any suggestions/reviews on Ausbeds
Interested in Urban Mattress "Ravenswood"
Consumer Alert: Avoid Sleep # like the Plague!
Heavy guy needs mattress advice
Just bought my first foam mattress. Have numbing arms at night. Help.
Professionals providing mattresses
Looking for Local Latex Options in the DC Metro Area
Yikes.. 32 male mattress shopping (Charlotte, NC)
conflicting latex mattress advice relating to ILD/weight
tell me what latex mattress to buy
Kingsdown Quality & Pricing Questions
DIY'ing the comfort layers over my innerspring to match the hotel mattresses
Ultimate Dreams Total Latex by Dreamfoam or Natural Sleep Select by Sleep EZ
Need advice with Latex mattress
Latex mattress help!!!
Advice on the purchase of an air mattress
Interested in sleeping organic, what am I missing?
Searching for a bed
Need feedback on 4 online foam mattress
Kansas City area Natural latex mattress
Alexander Hybrid or Alexander Latex Hybrid
Latex Mattress
Overwhelmed & tired absorbing all, but question that's timely.
Help Choosing a Bed
Question about memory foam and heat
7"/two layers vs. higher
Researching king mattress for hefty couple
Looking to purchase double sided mattress, would like opinion on ones I've found, and if anyone knows of other better ones also.
Thoughts on a couple mattresses
White flag raised - my unconditional surrender
Quality of BedMart mattresses in Oregon?
RE: Berkeley versus Charles P Rogers and Pocket Coil versus Latex?
Mattress for lower back problems
BME vs Dromma vs OSO?
Mattress choice for couple with different wish lists
New here
Advice on Pure Latex (Tallalay( Bliss
Light Toss and Turner looking for a soft comfort layer I can sink into
Charles P. Rogers
Solid laytex versus several layers in a mattress
Australian *Simplified Choice* Mattress Comparison
Spinal Care bedding.net & Diamond Mattress Manufacturer
latex and memory foam
Second Time Mattress Buyer - Where to look for longevity?
General Questions
Overwhelmed!
Sealy Optimum Grey Birch or Sealy Posturepedic "Feather Falls"
Tuft & Needle, My Green Mattress, or something else?
Wool and Cotton or Latex Core Wool Futon
And so the journey for latex begins
Canada Mattress Shopping advice
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Very hot sleeper in mattress hell trying to find a new mattress. Please help!
Novosbed vs Dreamfoam latex vs Dreamfoam memory foam (Supreme or 13")
Information overload and a too tight budget
Mattress Help
DIY All-Latex Questions
Back hurting on Brand new ELuxury!
Finding a substitute mattress
And so the journey for latex begins
Tempur cloud 27 or John Ryan by Design Hybrid 4?
Mattress for heavy couple
Must buy today online.......
Choosing the right Mattress
Plz help in mattress selection for a very heavy guy
Firm Mattress required
Dreamfoam Ultimate Dreams MF 13"
My official First post to become a member
Help with Mattress Selection - BME / Love and Sleep / Layla etc
Ultimate Dreams Total Latex vs Luma All-Latex (Bonus: vs BB's BME)
Wish Us Luck!
Wish Us Luck!
The 10 in. Tuft & Needle Diary
Coil Confusion
Analysis of Big Fig mattress for heavy people?
Looking for a new Mattress...Help!! :)
Raleigh, NC - Jaded Shopper from Mattress Firm
100lb Side Sleeper looking for new mattress.
Brooklyn Bedding Best Mattress Ever
Advice for manufacturers in Rochester NY
Dreamfoam new Arctic Dreams mattress similar to Tuft and Needle?
Looking for a new mattress
Mattress shopping guidelines - finding the best quality & value
Mattress for the skinny;light guy
Help on memory foam
I need a new mattress :D
Got an OSO mattress, tried both sides, lower back pain on both sides
Dreaming of Prana in Rochester
Plush/pillowtop hybrids
Mass-tress confusion & budgetary issues, HELP!
Looking for mattresses in northern VA
trying to pick foam mattress that is soft yet supportive
Pocketed Coil & Latex Mattress
Who Can I Trust to Help Me Find A Mattress????
Bowles mattresses
Who Can I Trust to Help Me Find A Mattress????
Only a week to get a new mattress to help with pain - how to do my search?
Southern Maryland Mattress Search
Mattress Missing Tag
Adjustable bed for sleeping and sitting.
Bob's Furniture- Retreat Mattress
Latex Cal King under $1000?
the more the search, the more I get confused.....what should I get?
Tired of researching. Cut to the chase, lol.
ISO perfect mattress for lil ol' me :)
Amorebed?
DIY Latex Combination
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Overwhelmed by Options: Have to Purchase Online
Confused about what I should buy
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Prana or Tempur-pedic
looking for a latex hybrid bed
looking for a latex hybrid bed
Mattress selection for low BMI's
Looking for good retailers to visit in Little Rock, Arkansas
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choosing between mattresses
Matress Buyers' Block!
Mattress Stores vs. Tuft and Needle or Saatva Loom and Leaf
Child and adult support?
newbie here, looking for guidance
Simplified Choice Mattresses aka Disruptors, Bed In A Box, One Choice Fits All, Universal Comfort, Millennial Mattresses
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Need some serious mattress help
Need some serious mattress help
Mattress online for under $600
Limited Matress selection in Hawaii need help finding better value
5' 9" 150 pound Side Sleeper Looking for a good Matresss!
Curved spine/scoliosis and spinal alignment
need some advice/suggestions!
natural latex mattress--which one??
Heavy People and Brooklyn Bedding Mattress
Joplimo Swearingen
Heavy People and Brooklyn Bedding Mattress
Request suggestions for New Jersey
REVERIE
General Recommendations
ULTRA FIRM, ORGANC HYBRID SUGGESTIONS NEEDED
Latex Mattress questions
Firmer mattress than Silk and Snow Hybrid?
Testing first mattress without good stores nearby?
Mattress Shopping experience
Please help! I need some helps with choosing a latex thickness for my mattress.
Any recommendations for a mattress without chemicals?
Help with Topper(s)
It's bed time again
Brooklyn Bedding Medium - or Firm with topper?
Our values, ideals, and goals
Mattress Shopping: A Painful Experience
How to setup and care for memory foam mattress
Given numbers to identify the foams?
Mattress Exchange
Memory foam-pros and cons
Help Finding Innerspring in SouthCentral Pennsylvania
Sherwood Bedding. Nobility line "plush". Bond (as in james bond?) model.
Current equivalent of this old Sealy mattress?
mygreenmattress natural escape vs avocado mattress
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adjustable bed hunting exhausted & exasperated
Currently using a Luxi mattress but thinking about returning it for a #BME
Retailers in Phoenix Arizona
Mattress help
Eco Sleep Hybrid Latex - looking for comments
40 years of Waterbeds and it's time to Jump Ship, need some advice.
Our values, ideals, and goals
The Serta iComfort mattress ... what's the buzz
Questions about Dreamfoam, Ikea Mattresses and Frames, Addable
The never ending quest for the right mattress @Phoenix
Mattress shopping in Alabama
Trying to pull the trigger
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Ghost Bed
Any opinion on this mattress? Sealy Posturepedic Thurloe Pillowtop
Struggling with lower back pain! Too many bad beds: waterbeds, latex, memory foam & airbeds
Latex mattress choices
New Alexander Hybrid Mattress from Nest Bedding
Parklane Mattress
Back sleeper aches with new Leesa mattress
Air mattress or a gel memory foam the best mattress for back pain?
sand filled
Comparable to iComfort EFX Intellectual
Dreamstar Memory Foam (Toronto Manufacturer)
DIY Foam on Latex vs Ultimate Dreams Gel 13
don't want to feel other person move
Mattress Opinions Needed
soft mattress for 100lbs person, does it exist?
Can anyone offer suggestions?
New Alexander Hybrid Mattress from Nest Bedding
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Can you suggest a knowledgeable manufacturer or retailer
Tuft & Needle Changed Its Manufacturing Recipe and Lost Its Firmness
Looking into buying from an online mattress company (Think Casper, Saatva etc)
I am looking for good companys in Seattle area to start looking into a bed, anyone know some?
Whats the best for me and the wife
Ordered but not delivered?
The great mattress search - Dallas, TX. - HELP!!!
Novosbed, Cloud Supreme, and Consumers Report
Saatva Mattress
Latex/ organic search help
Information on Sherwood, Dunlopillo or Evosleep mattresses?
Need some suggestions for mattress (preferences included)
Mattress Topper Help for Dissimilar Body Sizes
Quality Mattresses? Do they exist anymore?
Coming from waterbed
Savvy rest vs loom and leaf saavta vs purabliss latex from healthy back store
New Mattress
The Alexander Hybrid Signature Select Mattress Has Arrived!
Confused in Ft Worth!
Latex or Latex/Innerspring Retailers in East Bay Area of California?
Brooklyn Bedding Best Mattress Ever
Need Help deciding a mattress
Thoughts on Saatva Coil Mattress vs Loom and Leaf Memory Foam Mattress
specific requirements. need advice!
Have a Latex Configuration In mind
Seeking mattress recommdations
Spindle Mattress - "Pure" vs. "Natural"?
Some Advice on Mattresses - Leaning Towards Latex
I am a FURNACE! Memory foam is my enemy...Recommendations?
Analysis Paralysis - Which Mattress? Sleep On Latex? Casper? Helix? None?
Sealy Posturpedic Hybrid Cooper
Sleep Science 9" Latex versus Thomasville Elite III
Help with mattress selection,please
Mattress confused
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Ultimate Hybrid Pocket Coil Latex Mattress. Thoughts?
SleepEz v. Foam Sweet Foam v. PlushBeds? Natural v. Organic? 3 layers v. 4?
Sleeping Hot
Trying to find a similar firm mattress
Finding best local manufacturers & retail outlets
Very Limited Local Options - Latex Mattress Adventure
Help deciding between these online only mattresses
Questions about Dreamfoam, Ikea Mattresses and Frames, Addable
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My experience buying a mattress in Santa Monica, CA (Los Angeles area)
Brentwood Home Oceano
Narrowing down mattress choices
Searching for a new mattress for over 6 months
Help select a new mattress. Pretty please
Need a new mattress and becoming quickly bewildered (Austin, TX)
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Order and Fit - matching mattress and foundation in the midst of research
Buying a Serta Suite Dreams from Hilton: a cautionary tale
Extra Firm of 1 year too much motion, upgrade to memory foam / tempurpedic?
Mattress support cores - innersprings
Mattress support cores - latex
new one to here, how to choose a new mattress
Deciding between latex mattresses: Sleep EZ vs Therapedic (Boston) ~$1700
choosing natural latex mattress for child with allergies
Moving in 2 weeks and don't want to mess up my next mattress!
SleepNumber... great concept but poor comfort, Alternative?
Back pain and arm numbness on Casper mattress
Natural sleep shop/ saavy mattress
Too many variables = head is spinning!
Advice needed please.
I like sleeping on the ground
Help me please
Suggestions for local manufacturers near Raleigh/Durham NC
Mattress quandary in Minneapolis
mattress for sacral torsion
Mattress for disabled person
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Looking for mattresses with HR Foam
Selfish information request
Help Pick a New Mattress
BEST MATTERESS FO R DEGENERATIVE DISC DISEASAE?
New mattress
Hästens Owners: How happy are you with the firmness choosen for your bed?
Saatva mattress review and analysis
Charles P. Rogers Powercore 9000 vs. NANO
Cheswick Manor vs. Serta Applause II
Help deciding between these online only mattresses
Brooklyn Bedding - thoughts?
Al hybrid too soft - considering latex
Foam and durability
Is the Simmons Grand Haven at Art Van sold anywhere else?
Help with choosing memory foam mattress
Looking for suggestions on latex/memoryfoam Mattresses
Vzone mattress questions
Saatva mattress
Ready To Buy a New King - Seeking Advice
Arizona Premium Mattress Co and SleeepEZ
First time mattress/bed buyer. Currently sleeping on a bad mattress. Help?
Organic trundle?
Side Sleeper with information overload
Help with lower arm & hand numbness with new Lull mattress
400lb female and 190lb male
Latex Mattress Questions
My Essentia.com False Advertising and Lying to Consumer
Latex Mattresses - Urban Mattress vs Spindle vs Brooklyn Bedding?
Help Choosing a Bed
Mattress Shopping Again around Boston
Recommended by The Mattress Underground
Recommended by The Mattress Underground
Keep waking up with my lower back twisted
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Need some advice/recommendations
Mattress shopping guidelines - finding the best quality & value
Trying to figure out where to start
My impressions at Nest Bedding showroom NYC
Thanks for this site!
Opinions on SleepOnLatex
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Help for Stomach Sleeper
mattress hell
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Simplified Choice Mattresses aka Disruptors, Bed In A Box, One Choice Fits All, Universal Comfort, Millennial Mattresses
Shoulder and hip pain
Airloom mattress
OSO vs LUMA SLEEP
How to find right memory foam mattress
What brands in Canada - Latex?
Need recommendation for 5lbs Firm Memory foam King mattress
Looking for a pillow top feel in latex...
Aria - Las Vegas - Mattress
Desperate to find the right mattress w/out overpaying!
The Serta iComfort mattress ... what's the buzz
South Florida Mattress Store
Searching for a New Mattress (First time buyer)
Having a hard time picking out a latex mattress
The Serta iComfort mattress ... what's the buzz
Memory foam mattress shopping is starting to make my head hurt
Visco Mattress options
Perspective on Charles P. Rogers
Non-Toxic Mattress
Please help me with an affordable natural chemical free mattress for my son!
Help narrowing down choices please
Mattress for couples with different needs
Side Sleeper looking for Latex Mattress
Moving from Springs to Latex/Foam
Retail shop recommendation in South MS
What is ILD & Help SF Bay Area Seconds Clearance Demos Returns
Looking for a New Gel/Memory Foam Mattress in Miami FL
Time to buy a new Mattress because we are Sleepless in Seattle
saatva luxury firm
Latex layers
Spinning Head: pillowtops, two-sided, and brand names
Best OMF mattress to buy to add a topper later?
best mattress for different weights.
Latex Mattress Specs
nxg coil spring mattresses near Binghamton NY
Confused by mattress possibilities - BB versus Dreamland vs local (Boston area)
Recommendations for stomach sleeper with back pain?
Goodbye to Your Sleepless Nights
"Break-in period" for latex mattress?
Choosing between two mattresses and would love your thoughts
Mattress at Penny Mustard
Latex or latex topper with foam core?
Just tried Temperpedic Cloud Luxe, what else out there is comparable?
Weight & mattress options.
What is the website or link matching the mattress brand's different models names?
Sealy Cool Elegance Luxury Plush Mattress
Matrress Factory memory foam matresses
Scoliosis and a stomach sleeper, need help....
Select Foam vs. Tempurpedic and Serta
Short-term bed for me and boyfriend
two queen and two king beds for vacation rental?
Locations in Baton Rouge?
Need help with mattress - no luck with icomfort prodigy
What materials does a comfort layer of a coil mattress need to be in order to last 5+ years?....
Ikea Latex Matresses
Heavy stomach sleeper LF new mattress
help picking a memory foam mattress
Sleepys Thoughts
Lower back and hip issues, looking at memory foam and wondering if best choice? Help Phoenix
About to pull the trigger on Ultimate Dream Gel 13 inch
A good value for a non-discerning customer
more Affordable options?
Recommendations for stomach sleeper with back pain?
Best mattress ?!
College Grad Looking to Upgrade
Perspective on Charles P. Rogers
Charles P. Rogers
Dormeo Octaspring Mattress
New member, basic question
Latex Mattress Cover Components
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Sleeping positions
Where to buy foam
Narrowed it down, need a little help though
Tried to get started myself but drowning in too much info - can you help?
Latex equivalent to firm coil mattress w/ Geo-Matt foam topper??
Bamboo Infused Memory Foam???
Other than Ikea Holmsta what coil bed under $700/800 to topper up on?
Trouble finding a mattress -- where to go from here?
Pure Latex Bliss 3" Talalay Topper
How does a mattress align the spine?
Looking for a Mattress for Bad Backs & Joints
Online purchasing to remote Northern Canada
Topper search...
Need an expert opinion
DreamFoam Latex Bed advice
Jamison Lady Lark -
All Latex or "Hybrid"--HELP!
Thickness of Latex Mattress
Comparing four different innerspring mattresses
30-something with lower back issues seeking mattress recommendation
Latex Mattress
Looking for mattress advice
Novosbed and Bed in a Box
Mattress Difference for Adjustable Base
Best mattress for the plus size people
I-Series "Acclamation"? Luxury Firm vs. TempurPedic Breeze?
Latex
Help! Latex. Spring
Is Saatva better than S&F estate collection tight top
Reviews for NonToxicBeds.com
twin mattress, affordable and long lasting, … etc
Assistance in finding a decent mattress store in the Las Vegas, NV area
Ultimate Dreams support foam question? and suggestion between 2 mattresses
Mattress for lightweight side sleeper
New to latex...looking at matresses.net
Natural Chemical Free Mattress Stores in Birmingham & Atlanta areas
The Serta iComfort mattress ... what's the buzz
Looking to Buy a Hybrid Innerspring/Latex Mattress
GS Stearns Firm Euro Pillow Top vs. Airloom Hathaway
Need Help...memory foam
Nature's Legacy Latex Mattress (manufactured by White Dove)
New member with Mental Mattress Fatigue
Latex only or latex over foam
Recommended Pocket Coil Manufacturers who sell online
Amerisleep revere
Wool Top Layer vs. Gel Memory Foam on Pocketcoil Eurotop
ComforPedic Quesitons
New Mattress purchase, round 2:
Mattress for the kids
TandL's Shopping Thread
Springwall Mattress Info Request
Anyone have experience with a Sealy mattress?
Shopping for a new mattress
Help! Nearly bought a bedinabox mattress and now I've got cold feet
Recommend a mattress for ~$600
St George Shores Mattress
Choosing Latex Mattress Layers & South East U.S. Showrooms & Manufacturers
Tempurpedic Allura or Cloud Supreme?
Mattress Shopping In Oklahoma
Choosing a Mattress in 48 hours; What can I do?
Help with buying matresses for my boys
Buying a new mattress
The Serta iComfort mattress ... what's the buzz
The Best Foundations or Base for Latex or All Foam Mattress
Plush Beds
Our Spindle mattress purchase & some foundation questions
Chicago Mattress Options- unclear on what you are recommending
Mattress Advice / Recommendations - Latex/Memory Foam
Tempurpedic cloud supreme breeze vs weightless supreme
Mattress Wraps For Toxic Fumes
choosing the right mattress
can't decide on a mattress to choose
Need some reassurance for purchase
Need some Memory foam or Soft latex advice...Stuck on what to do next
Allergies and Chemical Sensitivities--Looking for Affordable and Quality New Mattress
which selectfoam for me??
Convince my husband
everything hurts - sinking into memory foam
Memory foam mattress and motion sickness
Head frying (for confusion!). Which Memory Foam Mattress is better for lightweighted people?
A good match?
Experience with dealer going back on return policy?
Getting a king mattress up the stairs...
Toppers
NEED HELP!! In search for a mattress
Recommend a good place(s) to buy mattress in Sacramento Ca local area
Firm mattress in naples fl
Another bed needed
Stomach sleeper needs help finding a new mattress!
Best bed for a couple with different sleeping positions
latex mattress stores in SE Indiana or Cincinnati OH area
Latex Eco Serenity mattress
Best places to test out Latex in NYC?
Question from Southwestern Ontario Canada
Best mattress and foundation for an invalid who is in bed about 16 hours per day
memory foam for heavy guy
Is Select Foam/ online vendors legit?
mattress companies around San Antonio Texas
From Memory Foam Topper to Mattress
Mattress Suggestions
Saatva
New Pure Latex Bliss
Beautyrest Legend Firm - I know its Simmons but it feels so good to me - thoughts??
Antique 3/4 bed
Need Help
Recommendations for Back Problems; La Quinta,Ca outlets?
Mattress for 2
Info overload, plz help! Want latex, but don't want to spend a fortune.
Where can I buy double-sided mattresses in SW-Ontario (Canada)?
Almost ready to buy! All-latex...some final advice requested
Bowles mattress
Can someone give me a starting point?
Restava Pearl Gel vs SelectFoam Cirrus Supreme-ES and latex hybrid options
latex! best value with a low budget
King size memoryfoam vs select foam vs tempurpedic vs sleep number m7
I'm having the hardest time picking a mattress!
New Mattress Advice!
Memory Foam, Open Cell, Closed Cell, weights etc
Organic mattresses???
Latex Mattress
Please help me.... this is just too much. I can't decide.
Need your input!!
Mattress Nightmare, finally getting out of a pillowtop
Looking for a local mattress manufacturer/shop in LA area
Latex Matress Configuration
My Luxury Mattress- Conover NC
SOS
Firm foam density question
shopping for new mattress and boxspring
Southerland Hybrid - Sonus
My best memory foam bets - and platform bed suggestions
Overwhelmed with choices
Help choosing between two IKEA slatted bed bases
Your Advice
Thinking of ordering SleepEZ 13000...laid on the PBL Beautiful and...
looking for guidance in northeast ohio
Latex Mattress
Saatva bed?
2 sided diy mattress, is it feasible?
Sleep LIke a Bear and Recommendation for thickness of topper and cover
Ultimate Dreams Supreme Gel Memory Foam Mattress or Memory Foam under $1000
Memory Foam vs. Latex
Dormeo Octaspring Mattress
Comparison + advice needed
Latex Mattress advice
Consumer membership in The Mattress Underground
Memory foam mattress help
I'm going in!
Assistance Needed in NJ
Brooklyn Bedding BME Alternatives?
Woman on the verge of latex bed overwhelm!
Mattress Purchase in Saskatoon, Saskatchewan
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Latex bed purchase question
shovlin mattress factory nj
Newbie looking for new mattress
Need sleep
Reputable Mattress Dealers around 21204 zip
Orange County, CA
10" Essence All Natural Latex Brooklyn Bedding
Stoked I found this site... need help!
Seeking Mattress Input
How safe is POLY Foam to sleep on?
Why not buy a tempur mattress
Jordan's Furniture mattress factory - lanai
Need new mattress in Atlanta
Savvy Rest Sticker Shock
Shovlin vs Berkely ergo.
Dormeo Octaspring mattress
Please help selecting which one is better.
USA Foam-Memory Foam Manufactures
how to check posture alignment, any ideas?
Looking for specialty retailer in Sonoma County
Sleep needed.
Where to go from here?
next steps to buying a mattress... where to buy memory foam/inner spring hybrid?
Looking to get off of the Saatva bandwagon
Novice buyer in Houston TX
Ernest Hemingway Mattress Collection
Latex Mattress Choices
Europa mattress by Corsicana
Dormeo Octaspring Mattress
memory foam choices
Best places to test mattress near Tacoma Washington and mattress recommendations for side sleepers
Looking for a mattress in Camarillo (Ventura County)
Nature's Legacy Latex Mattress
Newbie in Dallas/Ft Worth needs help
Trying to order a good, very firm, double-sided mattress in Albuquerque, NM
Trying to order a good, very firm, double-sided mattress in Albuquerque, NM
Time to light my Tempurpedic on fire (just kidding - throwing it out is fine)
My Green Mattress
Help me find a mattress based on my research so far.
Lumbar Pain on NEW Pure Latex Bliss "Nutrition"
Non-toxic mattresses
GEMMA Mattress at Sleepy's - good non-toxic option?
Costco Spring Air Latex Hybrid Plush
Mattress Agony
latex mattress
Chicago Suburbs looking for double sided latex
latex mattress for side sleeper on edge of mattress?
Help me find a mattress based on my research so far.
Help with Sherwood mattress choices - Lumina Cadence Luxury Firm too soft
Mattress Deformity -- Need Advice
Healthy Childrens Mattress
The Mattress Expert.com
Searching for a mattress...take 4
omi/lifekind worth the money?
Will a twin latex mattress fit properly on a twin XL adjustable bed.
Help comparing the IComfort acumen and Sealy Progel 2 mattress
Searching for a new mattress
Pure Opinion Needed – Pamper vs. Simmons firm
Help Me Find The Right Mattress
Three New Mattresses in Five Months - Still Not Happy
Brooklyn Bedding Palazzo
Eco Series 2
Pure Latex Bliss mattress on platform bed
Mattress for larger guy - a bit overwhelmed by options
ultimate dreams gel memory foam 12" good choice?
Need help with Canadian Retailers
Serta iSeries Expression
Mattress buying in Central Texas for hip pain
Sealy Mattress
question about a Pure Bliss latex hybrid mattress
Comparing nova form with the Sealy optimum mattress
How do I find a comparable mattress that the "big brands" have?
Any Advice?
Airloom's: Hybrid Bamboo Savannah Plush Super Pillowtop vs Organic Cotton Starbrook Luxe Pillowtop
Airloom's: Hybrid Bamboo Savannah Plush Super Pillowtop vs Organic Cotton Starbrook Luxe Pillowtop
Would like critique of buying strategy for Latex Mattress (Sleep EZ's 10,000 series)
Company reputation
Website/ Forum reader, joined as a member today !
Any experience buying from ebay?
Seeking advice on latex mattress for couple with very different body weights
Mattress advice
Affordable alternative to TempurPedic Cloud Supreme Breeze?
Pillowtop vs Mattress Topper?
Help with Latex Mattress Please
Providers in New England
Help with Mattress Decision - In DC, Don't Have Strong Views - Overwhelmed by Choice & No Time
Factory Direct mattress manufacturers - Dallas/Ft Worth
Testing advice
Help with Mattress search in OKC
S-cape mattress decisions
Serta iSeries
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Wish I could get CozyPure but it may be too firm.
Mattress search near Pittsburgh
Help!
Too far away to test for a mattress that will provide all you recommend
TALALAY Latex
So confused
Jamison
Atlantic Beds
Alternative to Pure Latex Bliss Nature
Overwhelmed and would love some suggestions...
first-time mattress shopping
Latex mattress in San Diego area
advice on composition and durability of online latex mattresses
Latex vs Foam, without the quackary
Sleepy's mattress - terrible! Has anyone gotten a refund or exchange?
Need help in finalizing King mattresses
Assistance Needed in NJ
advice on mattress type...
So completely overwhelmed
Need some help in Richmond VA / Allassea mattress
help with a new mattress
Therapedic Elegance XF -- Any Recommendations or Warnings?
Help on a new King Size
Need a recipe to clone Tempurpedic Cloud/ Cirrus Luxe. Expert advice needed
$1600 credit...what to buy?
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Memory Foam and Latex
NC sources for mattresses
Big guy seeks best bed at a reasonable price
?TEMP R PEDIC-RHAPSODY BREEZE? CAN I GET CLOSE IN FIRMNESS FOAM vs LATEX?
Best Bang for the Buck?
Plushbeds.com
Returning Our Cloud Luxe Breeze
Serta iSeries "Stature" Tight Top Firm Mattress
Looking for Mattress in Southern Oklahoma
I am new to the forum I just put a deposit on a memory foam bed and would appreciate some advice
latex mattress on a budget
Latex: feel/quality of the 60's products
Looking for info on Vivon Bliss
An interesting month
[Latex Mattress] So many layers, so many options...
husband + wife mattress
Bed Purchase
Overwhelmed in New Mexico
Southern California Retailers/Mattresses?
southeastern WA
Purchasing a Mattress for the First Time and Need Help
Brentwood Memory Foam
Looking for a mattress that similar to BE Oslo
I'm Newbie, buying a new mattress and a topper. Need help
Organic Mattresses
Advice on Aireloom Alpine Streamline Channel Firm
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Advice on Aireloom Alpine Streamline Channel Firm
Best latex mattress for overweight people
Information overload: Memory Foam Mattress Advice in Alabama
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Is my old bed suitable for a new mattress, and other questions about the Great Mattress Hunt?
Assistance with purchasing new mattress (Houston, TX)
Grad Student on Very Limited Budget
Starting my research, find a local store...
Specific Thermapedic Mattress Question! Need Mattress ASAP!
Bed Boss ?? Price Wesner ??
Calling Out for Help : Saatva Firm Mattress Owners
Need help finding a good mattress
Questions about local or online foam/latex mattress
Shopping for a new mattress in Wilmington, NC (Pure, Golden Mattress, Therapedic, others?)
Costco adjustable beds?
Beautyrest Black Collection - Alexia Extra Firm
Exhausted in search, undecided and probably unrealistic - thoughts?
I've tried every mattress out there...help!
Post Spine Surgery- Need Help!!
Help getting started for someone spending more time in bed
Best bed for lumbar neuropathy and leg pain... and hernatied discs low back and neck.... post op
Post your experience with the 12 in 1 Dreamfoam bed if owned > 6 months
Durham/Raleigh Recommendations
a little help
Firmness = support?
Latex Mattress
Moving to Florida - Need advice
New mattress - help!
Mega Mattress Confusion (But Leaning Toward Jamison)
Plush vs Firm
Hats Off To You Guys
Did I make a mistake???
Restava Pearl Gel or Novosbed Harmony
Looking for Economic but Good less than 10" Queen Mattress
Which Latex?
Guest Bedroom Choice
Heading out on my mattress purchasing adventure (Vancouver, BC). Am I missing anything?
Matching Tempurpedic Rhapsody
Peabody Dream Bed, Latex beds... I'm still researching
Comfort layer for Latex mattress
Time to light my Tempurpedic on fire (just kidding - throwing it out is fine)
Best bang for my buck (latex mattresses)
I am looking for a comfortable sleeper sofa (full bed)
First post
Searching.... and wondering about return policies
Mattress Help - Latex vs. Latex Hybrid and Adjustable Bed Foundations
delivery to mexico
Latex Mattress - Very uncomfortable - Seek Advise
Warranty/Exchange Help
Organic Latex Mattress
im looking at a simmons model # 700097309-1060 is it a proto type?
High quality, all natural mattress in the Atlanta area??
Mattress Hunting - Need Help Please
What more composition information do I need?
Waterbed insert
Macy's Salesman Switched Purchased Mattress
Best mattress fit for us?
Memory foam or latex
Stores in PA
Tight budget - DIY or?
Latex Mattress
Saatva mattress review and analysis
Best basic firm mattress to add a latex topper
Latex Mattress Help
Shopping for new mattress
Sleep EZ comp of Ikea Morgongova
The best all-natural innerspring mattress
Difference Between Latex Beds
Memory foam???
Mattress Thickness Vs Quality Dilemma. Help Please!
Help on the i series vantage by serta
iSerta Applause
Plushbeds.com Botanical Bliss pure latex mattress
Closest alternative to PLB Nutrition (or best way to re-create with layers)...
Finding a good dealer in Canada
PLEASE HELP: Really need a new mattress!!! WANTED: A "Green" Mattress
Cheapo Ikea innerspring + 4" memory foam topper?
Sleep to Live technology
Need specs for Stearns and Foster Ava Rose hybrid mattress
What kind of king size mattress would fit up narrow stairs?
Hybrid Mattress
How can I find something comparable to the Beautyrest Black?
Help Finding Latex Mattress
Plush beds or Sleep EZ
Serta Icomfort vs Sealy Memoryworks
36x75 Mattress for kids
Don't know where to go next"
Looking for recommendation on Foam or Latex alternative to Temperpedic or iComfort beds.
FIRST TIME MEMORY FOAM PURCHASE. WHICH ONE TO CHOOSE?
Purasleep memory foam mattress
Finally switching to memory foam! Need some advice for a first time buyer ;)
Input on Adjustable Bed and Suitable Mattress
Simmons beautyrest hartfield luxury firm DISASTER
Rocky Mountain Mattress - Conover? - Also need some advice on new MemFoam King purchase
Mattress choices for elevated platform beds
Need help on purchase...need recommendations...!
talalay latex for platform bed
Helping me to find out a mattress that fits my need
Equivalent to Amerigel?
Restopedic
TempurPedic or Not
motion isolation/motion transfer or split king
25M seeking Mattress (Fredericksburg/Richmond VA area)
Should I DIY or go cheap with an eBay assembled mattress receiving a lot of positive feedback?
Any opinions on Nature's Embrace or Restmore Mattresses? (Canada/Winnipeg)
Latex guidance
Warranty issue with discontinued HealthyBack mattress - next steps?
Is Ultimate Dreams A Good Buy?
Recommend a store in St. George, Utah 84770
General Mattress Help
Best mattresses for murphy bed
Input on idea - Basic mattress with latex topper...
How about this synthetic latex mattress
isleep ez 10000 vs oragnic 10000
14yo Sleep Number - should we replace bed or just parts?
Hot sleeper
Substitute for old Sealy Posturepedic?
Advice for first mattress purchase?
help with sorting out hybrid mattress choices
Questions about Major Mattress Brand Manufacturers.
Trying to decide between two mattresses
Question about Saatva 11-1/2 inch mattress
Feeling like I need a little help
Healthy Choice Organic Mattress
Best of both worlds?
Equivalent to Amerigel?
Amerigel memory foam mattress by southernland .
Ashley i series mattress
Christeli mattress charleston model
Dixiefoam DreamBed Deluxe - some advice please - bed, then platform
100% Natural latex recommendation
OMF regency sapphire
Reputable local mattress stores in West Palm Beach, FL area
Firmness level that is equal to Sovn 'A'
Mattress Shopping in Ottawa
Looking for a good King sized mattress in Waynesboro, PA
The search for a full Latex mattress is on!
The I-Mattress?
I-Mattress by King Koil
Overwhelmed in Southwestern Ontario, Canada
Help deciding between Select Foam Regalis and Christeli Danieli or Charleston
Best places to shop for mattress in NE Georgia
I don't know which mattress to get, please help
JC Mattress Factory in Jefferson City, MO?
Help with choosing mattress that is cool and doesn't transfer movement
Replacing my 15 year old mattress/box springs
I'm lost and very open to a recommendation
Where to buy in anchorage, ak?
Brick and Mortar Sales
hybrid mattress question??
Looking for a new mattress
Help with deciding which company to go with!
Another Newbie
Jamison mattresses
Help me understand progressive
Help!
Costco Stearns and Foster
Looking for something pretty specific and need help! Thanks!
Two choices of bed and two choices of firmness
Looking for a mattress store around Columbia, SC
Good Places for Buying Local or Delivery in Boston
Memory Foam Galore
second thoughts...
Guest Bedroom Mattress
Tired of the mattress hunt
Good Places for Buying Local or Delivery in Boston
which mattress?
Help!
any recommended mattress places for jacksonville, nc (or within a more or less 120 mile range)?
The more information I get, the more confusing it seems
I need a new Memory Foam Mattress
Best choice for a King set ~$2000.
Jameson Latex mattress
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The Best Foundations or Base for Latex or All Foam Mattress
Please help me choose a latex mattress - zip code 11215
Mattress around $1000 in Mississauga, Ontario
Help decide on first memory foam, medium/firm <$1000 side/back sleeper
Searching for a latex mattress, Edmonton Canada
Confused Consumer
Trying to buy a natural, soft-type mattress (Houston area)
Hi, trying to pick between a few brands to find the right 100% Natural Latex Mattress
Need an 8" ( or less) mattress for our RV
Mattress suggestions for under $1,500
Mattress shopping in the UK. Brand advice urgently requested
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Floating on latex? Rethinking my bias against memory foam.
best mattress type for use with heated mattress pad
What mattress do YOU own?
Is there a natural, affordable mattress for me?
Latex or Innerspring
Tired of Sleeping on 9 year old hammock
Not Much Time to Buy Mattress
Local retailers in Halifax, Canada
Memory foam mattress help
Searching for a mattress...take 4
Saatva mattresses
Ultimate Dreams 12" Supreme Gel vs Dynasty 15" Luxury Grand
Replacing my Serta iComfort with...help?
Need Help! Good deal on pure latex bliss - Nature - or maybe not?
Looking for Good Retailers in the Portland, OR
Innerspring?
Sleeping beauty Kristen mattress
After months of research and 4 mattresses later I still can't find the right one.
Sheraton Sweet Sleeper
Top Ranked Mattresses on Other Sites- I really need help
Tempur-Cloud Luxe Breeze; are there other memory foam mattresses that stay as cool?
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Memory foam mattress topper (& MF mattresses?) - I am sick from VOCs
Ottawa Mattress Help
Avocado mattress? ... & Nest Bedding options
Five different mattresses later.....
Need help finding best mattress for issues with back pain
Mattress stores around the NH area
Cheapest Mattress that Isn't Too Firm or Toxic?
Dunlopillo quality
Looking to purchase a mattress - looking at Dormeo Octaspring
Please help me choose an online mattress
Any advice is welcomed
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Problems with new mattress
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Southerland Mattress
Seeking Good Value/Quality in Memphis
Latex versus memory foam?
two very different levels of firmness needed -- any advice?
Where is best to shop in western New York?
Please help me pick the best "Bed in a Box"!
mattress like icomfort?
Latex v coil
Please, please, please: The right latex mattress for a daybed?
My Serta Mattress lasted 2.5 years :(
brooklyn bedding a bit too firm - other recommendations?
Looking for a low budget mattress setup
Experiences with Bloom mattresses by Urban Mattress
stuck in mattress shopping hell and need help
Overwhlemed, Hoping for some guidance, Leaning toward Latex
Fat body looking for a cozy bed?
Mattress ID & Other Q's
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Novaform vs Tempurpedic
Hammock effect in new mattress after rolling from side to back
Big brands with low price or local factory with higher price
Overwhelmed-in need of guidance
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Overwhelmed-in need of guidance
Latex mattress for hip/shoulder pain
Desperately Seeking Pain Relief! Confused about mattresses and which type!
Sapira Vs. Tomorrow Vs. Kaya
Need help deciding on a mattress
Looking for assistance picking a mattress
Pain from my pocket coil + latex mattress...advice needed for new one
Wink Beds *PLUS* vs The Nest Bedding Hybrid Latex w/ Firm Feel
Major Mattress Manufacturers - Top 20
Best Amazon Mattress For Under $550 ONLY SOFT/PLUSH
Visited Quality Sleep Shop in La Grange, IL & Need Help w/ My Soft Bed Search
Upgrading my 10yr spring mattress? (Purple, Tempurpedic, ??) Box spring/frame ?s
Not sure this is where to ask? Need help buying online mattress
Help find a mattress- is DORMEO any good?
Replicate a Hyatt Grand Bed II
Please help narrow the field of suppliers - Online and Indianapolis
Please help narrow the field of suppliers - Online and Indianapolis
King Koil Ortho Posture Problem
Returning for Softness
So many different foam types
Latex from Flexus vs Savvy Rest
Need help deciding on a mattress
Recommended by The Mattress Underground
Break-in time: Support vs. Comfort
Mattress specs/materials to look for in good memory foam mattress
The industry - Introduction
Latex for Less
Newbie needs help with mattress selection
Mattress support cores - latex
Where do I turn to, what do I buy
Major Mattress Manufacturers - Top 20
Hybrid Mattress Predicament
Do I need a new mattress?
Novapure latex mattress
Consumer membership in The Mattress Underground
Looking for a mattress store around Columbia, SC
Coming from a waterbed
Simplified Choice Mattresses aka Disruptors, Bed In A Box, One Choice Fits All, Universal Comfort, Millennial Mattresses
Latex Hybrid Mattress Options
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The industry - Introduction
Newbie looking for advice on Hamuq Mattress
Denver Mattress Snowmass vs. Ultimate Dreams
Consumer membership in The Mattress Underground
Simplified Choice Mattresses aka Disruptors, Bed In A Box, One Choice Fits All, Universal Comfort, Millennial Mattresses
How to... A Researcher's Guide to Mattress Wisdom
Mattress dealer recommendation
Unable to decide which foam to choose for mattress
Memory Foam Mattress Help
The Perfect Sleep Chair
DutchCraft Mattress question
Newbie needs help with mattress selection
Avocado mattress? ... & Nest Bedding options
Mattress Modifications
Is there such thing as a mattress consultant for hire?
Need mattress help!
I've tried every mattress out there...help!
Natural Latex vs Certi-Pur foam vs Oeko-Tex manufactured latex?
wondering why my lower back is achcy in the morning only
mattress like icomfort?
Simplified Choice Mattresses aka Disruptors, Bed In A Box, One Choice Fits All, Universal Comfort, Millennial Mattresses
Simplified Choice Mattresses aka Disruptors, Bed In A Box, One Choice Fits All, Universal Comfort, Millennial Mattresses
Brain Fog! but need to buy new bed
Model Change-up at Brooklyn Bedding?
Latex Toppers Canada
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GhostBed ~ The Mattress Underground (TMU) Trusted Member
GhostBed ~ The Mattress Underground (TMU) Trusted Member
Simplified Choice Mattresses aka Disruptors, Bed In A Box, One Choice Fits All, Universal Comfort, Millennial Mattresses
Want advice on hybrid mattress
Want advice on hybrid mattress
Quality Innerspring in Memphis, TN
How to... A Researcher's Guide to Mattress Wisdom
How to... A Researcher's Guide to Mattress Wisdom
Stearns & Foster Lux Estate Cassatt Firm/Ultra Firm
Five steps to your perfect mattress - support and alignment
Manufacturers - local brands
How to... A Researcher's Guide to Mattress Wisdom
The Best Foundations or Base for Latex or All Foam Mattress
How to... A Researcher's Guide to Mattress Wisdom
Simplified Choice Mattresses aka Disruptors, Bed In A Box, One Choice Fits All, Universal Comfort, Millennial Mattresses
Casper mattress
Looking for a Latex Mattress that also is good for joints
Saatva
Replacement for Stearns & Foster Estate Governor's Palace Ultra Firm?
118 lbs w/ health issues and back pain, looking for inexpensive full mattress to potentially replace new Lucid Mattress
Need Help choosing - Stearns & Foster mattress
Mattress selection help
Narrowed down to Helix Midnight Luxe (Medium) OR Wink Luxury Firm. Any feedback?
Search for a new mattress, leaving Purple, Need suggestions!
I think I was had
Please help me choose an Ikea mattress (and/or a mattress in general)
Need help with Brooklyn Bedding
Help me build my first DIY Mattress!
Searching Mattress <1000 in Canada. (115lbs, side+back sleeper)
Is Naturepedic Verse too firm?
Help on buying a mattress.
Need a cheap low toxicity mattress
Opinion on this Sleeptronic Mattress
Looking for a mattress.
New Mattress Help
Old school innerspring mattress Chicago
Alternative to Logan & Cove Medium Plush (available in Canada)
Looking for the best sub 1100 queen mattress
Latex & wool free adjustable bed
Help finding new mattress to sleep as well as my old- Dreameasy eco-Pur 6000
Mattresses for severe low back pain, scoliosis
Time for a new mattress - best mattress for lower back pain
3" Dunlop Soft Latex topper losing support
Mattress for bigger person
Novosbed medium firm vs Silk & Snow hybrid
now mattress
Novosbed medium firm vs Silk & Snow hybrid
What the new version called...?
Looking for suggestions.. 5'8" 175lbs Back and side sleeper
Mattress Recommendation for Heavy Sleepers
Jordon’s Akashi Chill Touch
200 pound back sleeper can sleep on floor, Memory Foam or Latex Mattress?
Do latex matttresses need to come in layers?
Please direct me
Coil count? What's the mystery? Help me make my final decision
Please help me find the perfect mattress!
Helix Midnight Luxe too firm, now what?
Choosing between three mattress!
Innersprings v Latex, Comfort Layer Materials, Recommendations?
I'm a side sleeper who prefers a softer mattress, 155lb, $1500 budget
5'10" 270lbs side sleeper recommendation
Mattress Recommendations Please! Avocado Green Too Firm
Older Couple
Firm mattress selection and budget concerns
Firm mattress selection and budget concerns
Completely overwhelmed - not sure what to look for.
Please suggest a mattress
Sleep EZ Mattress help!
Suggestion for side sleeper who's tried so many mattresses
Tossing and turning in Naples Fla
Short Dumpling
Simply Perfect Mattress
Tossing and turning in Naples Fla
Looking for a new mattress - suggestions?
Latex bed and adjustable platform
Help With My DIY Mattress Build
First Mattress for Apartment
Best organic mattress stores in NYC?
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Looking for a more natural mattress option
similar mattress to the Carpe Diem for cheaper
Love the tempurpedic cloud prima but $$$
Comparable matresses to latest iComfort Savant Plush?
All Our Services
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May have bought mattress too hastily-Please help
I Sleep funny! & Will I have moldy dreams??
Beddinghotline.com
Need help with coil mattress
Help Buying Extra Firm Latex Online
Firm Innerspring Full Mattress for under $400 possible?
innerspring latex combo?
Casper vs cheaper mattress plus latex topper
Content and construction
Casper Mattress vs Tuft and Needle Mattress
Memory Foam VS Latex for back issues and a tight budget
Adjustable Beds Comparisons
Deciding on latex...new....NEED HELP!
Switching out layers on brooklyn bedding 9" latex
Same problem with new and old mattress
Quality Mattress comparable to IKEA Medium Firm Morgedal?
The Best Innerspring Mattresses?
Advice on mattress (Netherlands)
info on the serta viewpoint super pilow top
Help
How do I compare a Simmons from Sleepys to a Simmons on Amazon?
Serta iComfort Genius Everfeel Extra Firm
The firm husband and Cushy wife
Saatva?
Any experience with Technogel Mattress Estasi+ or Armonia or Piacere
Costco Mattresses
Mattress mfg
Costco Nova Form Pure Comfort Grand
Simmons Black Edenton
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Open to any opinion -Why is this mattress buying so Hard?
First time buyer needs expert advice
Looking for a new bed to replace my old Innerspring - North Virginia area
Comfor Pedic by Simmons and my new mattress search
Recommended Manufacturers in the Los Angeles Area
Zenhaven pros and cons
Mattress for people that grew up sleeping on super hard mattress...
Seally Posturepedic Matresses
Dormeo Octaspring Mattress
Serta iComfort Visionary EFX Plush
Latex Matress Softness
Need store recommendation for Beaufort/Bluffton/Hilton Head SC area
The 10 in. Tuft & Needle Diary
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Side Sleeper Problems

Phoenix,

I am new to this forum but have been reading a bit and you seem to be a good place to start. We have been sleeping on a McCroskey box spring and mattress combination for almost 15 years and have been very happy up until the last few. Now in our early sixties we are looking for something “softer” I think; we have been sleeping on their firmest bed combination. Both of us sleep primarily on our side (wife sometimes on her stomach) and have lower back issues. Our current problem is to maintain good support but get something with less of a pressure point problem. I also get sciatica when I sleep on my left side and that is new.

In our search we came across Berkeley Ergonomics at European Sleepworks and in principle like the system they have. So i have a series of questions. Any facts or opinions would be welcome.

One choice is to buy a latex topper from BE just to see if that will do the trick. That would also be the cheapest solution.

Another option, again sticking with the McCroskey line, is to buy a new softer mattress in their line (keep our current box spring) and use the topper (because they don’t have mattresses with comfort toppers) to provide the pressure point relief. This is appealing because I think they have a quality product and good service but there is not much customization available here, either side to side or just different levels of softness, etc.

Finally, we could move to the whole BE system and start all over.

Price is not a big factor because the BE and the McCroskey would be similar in cost (unless the topper works by itself - I am thinking unlikely). I am of the opinion that it is difficult to tell for sure until you sleep on it for several weeks at least, so I sort of favor the BE stuff because the store will customize more and in the event it just does not work we can return altogether - not cheap but not a complete loss. McCroskey will not take the mattress back.

So here are some questions:

We live in Menlo Park - I can’t seem to find any place that lists where I can buy BE (including their website) and European SW is a long way away. Any ideas on the best place to buy BE? or the best sales expert to help us?

Does it make sense to try the topper first? or is the mattress old or our situation changed so much that it is unlikely to work.

Is is really practical to figure out in advance which system is best for us or do we need to assume we will have to try several or find something that is adjustable (like the BE system).

thanks much for anything you can offer.

flip

Hi gianos,

McRoskey makes some very high quality mattresses and have a loyal following but they are nowhere near the same price or value range as BE or other choices you may have in the area. Their mattresses require a box spring as part of the sleeping system (with the possible exception of the McRoskey by design which can be used on a platform bed) and in anything close to an apples to apples comparison they are significantly more than BE and many other options similar options. In queen size … the basic set which uses synthetic fibers is $3400, the Classic is $4460 and the McRoskey by design (which may be the closest comparison to a BE) is $4000 mattress only. As you mentioned … they also don’t have the same ability to customize or alter after a purchase.

Natural fibers including wool tend to compress and become firmer over time so if the only problem is that your current mattress is too firm and needs some extra pressure relief and the surface is even and supportive then a topper could be a good choice yes. If it has impressions that are affecting alignment then a topper will still follow the dips.

This is a possibility but it would be the least attractive one to me in terms of flexibility and value. You would need a mattress, possibly a new box spring (depending on the condition of your current box spring and if it has any soft spots or dips), and a topper as well … and all of this together would easily be much more than a BE or other options you have.

This would certainly be better value and have more flexibility than the previous option IMO.

Again … unless I am somehow misreading the McRoskey website … the difference in price in anything close to an apples to apples comparison (based on the components you would need) is significant.

BE is only available in a very limited number of stores across the country. The closest to you that I’m aware of is http://www.sc41.com/ in Soquel about 35 miles away.

It would make sense if your current mattress was still firm and relatively even and the only issue was pressure relief (not alignment and lower back issues that are not “in you” can be caused or aggrabated by a mattress that doesnpt provide good alignment in all your sleeping positions). At 15 years old though … it may be worthwhile to consider a new mattress anyway that not only provides better pressure relief but may work better for your changing needs and provide better alignment in all your sleeping positions.

Assuming the mattress is suitable for a topper though … it could put off the decision for a few more years and give you the pressure relief you need even though if there are any alignment issues caused or aggravated by the mattress it isn’t likely to solve these.

No. Personal testing … especially with the help of someone who has the knowledge and experience to help you know what would work best for your needs and preferences … will always be more accurate than a theory (such as those we are discussing). there are too many variables in both people and sleeping systems for theory to be anything more than just a starting point for testing.

You also have some other good options in the area besides just McRoskey and BE and they are listed in the San Jose thread in post #2 here (with a few others but mostly overlap in the San Francisco thread in post #2 here.

If I was in your shoes … I would either go with a latex topper that was soft enough to provide the pressure relief you need (assuming no alignment issues and that your mattress is suitable and would evenly support a topper and you were looking to delay the mattress replacement for a while) or start over again with either BE or one of the higher quality and value options available within reasonable driving distance. A trip to Santa Cruz to test both the BE and Bay Bed would be well worthwhile IMO and there are other options that are quite close to you that I would also include in your research.

Phoenix

What options would I have for local manufacturers in the KC,MO area? We are currently trying beds from Mattress Firm, mainly b/c of their exchange policy (now on our 2nd mattress, soon to exchange for 3rd). So far this has been frustrating and I just happened to stumble on this website while trying to get product reviews for the next bed we are interested in.

So far, both myself (165 lbs) and my wife (115 lbs) are back/side sleepers who have been experiencing lateral lumbar and side muscle pain on waking for the past few years and have finally attributed it to our 5 yr old innerspring mattress with euro pillowtop from Sealy. We have assumed it to be too soft, so we started with more firm mattresses. First a Tempurpedic Contour Signature, and then an iComfort Insight, but both are way too firm leaving us with increased lumbar pain and poor sleep. Next we were planning on either a Tempurpedic Rhapsody or iComfort Prodigy and would be interested on your thoughts or alternatives to these, especially since the Temp’s price is substantial.

We would be fine with looking at other manufacturers that you might recommend, but we are very new to this process. Also, given our stats and problems, is there a different type of mattress you would recommend over what we are looking at?

Hi BrentinKC,

You are probably lucky to get 5 years for a euro pillowtop from any major brand before the lower quality foams in the pillowtop softened to a point where you lost good support and alignment. Your lighter weights probably helped it to last a little longer.

Since you’re posting in this thread I’m hoping that you’ve read the various links in the first post about avoiding chain stores and major brands so I wouldn’t recommend either the Tempurpedic (generally better quality but poor value compared to other similar memory foam mattresses) or the iComfort line (lower quality and also poor value). You can see my thoughts about the Tempurpedic line in post #10 here and the iComfort line in post #11 here.

Many smaller or local independent manufacturers sold factory direct or through better sleep shops would make high quality memory foam mattresses that were similar quality but significantly better value. Personal testing along with buying from a retailer that disclosed the type and quality of the layers in their mattress would lead to a much better choice.

Some of the better options and possibilities I’m aware of in the Kansas City area are in post #2 here.

Most of the rest of your questions (such as alternative types of mattresses, ideas about the type of layering that would be suitable for your weight and sleeping positions, and what to look for and what to avoid) would be answered in the links included in the first post of this thread which is probably the best place to start before you begin to look for or start testing mattresses.

Phoenix

Do you have a link to the Pure Latex Bliss bed specifications. I can’t tell from their website. That looks like a possible good option for us.

Hi BrentinKC,

Pure latex Bliss has three different lines. the “natural line” (which is made from blended Talalay latex), The “all natural line” (which is made from 100% natural Talalay latex), and the Hybrid 3.0 line (which has various combinations of their new slow and fast response Talalay latex on top and uses a polyfoam base layer).

The old specs of the most common lineup (the “natural” lineup) are in post #1 here. These are being replaced by a new lineup which uses their new “active fusion” fast response Talalay in the top layer. The note at the bottom of the post describes the changes in the layering between the old and new models. Some stores may currently have the old lineup and some may have the new.

Since ILD’s are a measure of firmness rather than quality, any changes in ILD with the new models probably won’t be important unless you have a frame of reference and are very familiar with how different ILD’s feel in different combinations and have some specific numbers in mind. Testing for pressure relief and alignment with personal testing in the store is much more accurate than going by “comfort specs” anyway (and they are only really necessary if you are using a local mattress as a guideline for an online order). In terms of quality/durability … they are all Talalay latex which is a very high quality and durable material.

The PLB at “regular” prices are generally better value than most mainstream mattresses but not in the same value range as many smaller manufacturers. If a local retailer is looking to clear out the old models in preparation for carrying the new ones then they could be good value as well.

Phoenix

thanks Phoenix
I get all that you suggest. I will head to Santa Cruz in the near future and check out SC41 and Baybed. I have to say i am still skeptical that we will get it right on the first try but we will give it a try. If you have a name of someone down there we should talk to in order to get it right that would also be helpful.
in the meantime, thanks for all your help.
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Hi gianos,

At Baybeds the owners name is Dan and he is great to work with.

I don’t know any of the people at SC41.

Phoenix

phoenix

one more quick question

i think we can easily assess comfort in the store (hard, soft, middle, etc). is there an independent/logical way to assess alignment separately. also since my wife and i do not weigh the same, how to people account for that (i assume weight affects alignment if you assume the same level of support in both cases).

thanks

Hi gianos,

Yes … but it is a little more difficult and because most people focus more on comfort (pressure relief) than support (spinal alignment) it is easily forgotten or not tested. Many people will also not have a clear sense of what they are testing for and will either go by more subjective “overall” perceptions or will not spend long enough on a mattress to really get a clear sense of how it may feel and perform in “real life”.

First of all … it’s important when you are testing for pressure relief or alignment to make sure you lie on a mattress for long enough that your mind and muscles are fully relaxed. A mattress can feel very different when you are fully relaxed than it does when you are tense. For most people this means spending at least 15 minutes on a mattress that you are seriously considering and focus on the relaxed feeling that you have when you are going to sleep.

The second key is to focus specifically on testing for alignment and its symptoms rather than comfort in all your sleeping positions. There are several things here that can help.

  • Try to sense whether your muscles are able to completely “let go” and allow the mattress to support your natural alignment rather than using muscle tension to keep you in alignment. This means that you can sense your body and muscles fully relaxing without a tendency for any area to be tense.

  • Next is to pay particular attention to any tension or discomfort (or even pain) in the areas where poor alignment tends to produce symptoms for you. This can be different for different people but is usually in the lower back or lumbar curve, and the upper back and neck where the spine also curves. Test in all your sleeping positions making sure to move slowly when you change position and stay relaxed. Bear in mind that minor discomfort when you are testing can be amplified when you are sleeping for longer periods of time.

  • Next is to make sure that all the inner curves of the spine are filled in so that there are no “gaps” in between your body and the mattress. It should be fairly difficult to slide you hand under the lower back or waist (if the mattress is too firm then this area will not be filled in well enough and sliding a hand under it will not have enough resistance and will be too easy).

  • Finally you can use the help of someone who can see you on the mattress to make sure there are no obvious issues of alignment such as those that are in this diagram. If you stand up with “good posture” then your “helper” will be able to get a sense of your natural curves from the side and back and this can help them see if your posture is close to what it is when you are standing up and whether any part of your body is sinking in a little too far (usually the hips/ pelvis) or not enough (usually the upper body and shoulders). They can also make sure that your head and neck is also in good alignment when you are testing because this can affect how a mattress feels in the upper body area.

On your side … your spine should be relatively straight (like it is when you look at someone from behind) and your body profile along the side of your body should be similar to your standing position (shoulders and hips in roughly the same relative position). On your back … the spine and body profile should be similar to the side view when you are standing with no obvious areas where parts of you are sagging or sinking in too far or not enough (within reason).

If you test more objectively and specifically for alignment using these suggestions and the more subtle cues from your body in conjunction with some help then you should be much closer to your ideal than if you only test for more subjective ideas of “comfort”.

I should also mention that there are certain layering and material combinations that can be suitable for two people with different body types and sleeping positions even though they may be very different. In other cases … a side by side split layering can also be helpful to accommodate different body types and sleeping positions. In other words, I wouldn’t make assumptions about what may be best ahead of time and use the “evidence” of your testing to determine what is best for each and both of you more than “theory” which can sometimes be misleading or counter intuitive.

Hope this helps

Phoenix

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wow
thanks that is really helpful
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Phoenix,
I was roaming around the internet and I stumbled onto your site, very helpful so far. I recently joined the civilian world after serving 10 years in the US Army which included tours in South Korea, Germany and Iraq. While in Iraq I sustained injuries that have permanantly injured my lower back. It seems to be the consensus that for lower back problems I should be shopping for a firm mattress. I came accross the Saatva website and was impressed but after getting some imput from this forum, I am worried that they might not be the best fit for me. Can you advise some particular brands that I should be looking at? Also, money is not an object (to a certain degree) when getting a good nights sleep. Thank you for your time.

Hi bshantzer,

Welcome home first of all :slight_smile:

A mattress is only as good as the combination of materials that are in it and “brand shopping” is one of the worst ways to find a good quality and value mattress

The first post in this thread has a step by step process along with some links to information that will greatly improve your odds find finding the best quality and value mattress and just as importantly fits what you both need and prefer and can provide the best possible support for your injured back. Having good support layers doesn’t mean that you can’t also have good pressure relieving layers in a mattress because all mattresses are a combination of firmer support (in the deeper support layers) and good pressure relief (primarily from the upper comfort layers) and the balance between these that best fits your body type, sleeping positions, circumstances, and preferences is the “best” mattress for you.

Once you know what to eliminate, have some basic information about mattress materials and construction (and know the types of questions to ask), and have identified the better local manufacturers or retailers in your area … then you can start testing mattresses and connect and work with people that have the experience and knowledge to help you make good choices without breaking the bank.

If you let me know the city or zip where you live I’d be happy to let you know of any of the better possibilities in your area that I’m aware of.

Just in case you haven’t seen it (or for others that are reading this post) … my thoughts about Saatva are in this thread.

Phoenix

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Phoenix,
Thank you for getting back to me so quickly, I live in Ewing, NJ 08628.

Hi bschantzer,

The better options or possibilities I’m aware of in your general area (and towards Philadelphia) are listed in post #4 here.

Post #7 here includes some further options in the general NYC area (some of which are duplicates).

Phoenix

Hi Phoenix,

First of all, thank you for this great site! It has a lot (and I mean A LOT) of useful information. Thanks!

Now, my question. Can you recommend any good store outlet/manufacturer in or around Montreal, Canada. I’m doing my initial research, but I would like to talk to professionals at some point.
I see only 3 Canadian companies in the membership list, and all 3 of them are on the other side of the country :frowning:

Any help is greatly appreciated!

Hi tanyaden,

You are fortunate because there are many factory direct manufacturers within about 100 K of Montreal. While none of them are members of the site … there is some very good quality/value in the area (more than almost any city in North America). They are listed in post #276 here.

You may also find this thread helpful (with some feedback from one of our forum members).

Hope this helps.

Phoenix

Thanks a lot Phoenix!

I just started my research, but it looks like it won’t be long and painful process - thanks to your website.

I’m happy to know that here in Montreal we have some choice. Usually I order whatever I need from the States, but it would be hard to do with mattress.

Thanks again,

tanyaden

Phoenix, I just found this site and loved all the great information it has! My wife and I were going to buy a Tempurpedic or a Serta icomfort today. But it seems that we may get better “value” from a matress outlet near us. Do you know of any good outlet stores near zip 48195 (Southgate, MI). It is near Detroit, MI.

Thank you for all the great info I have read thus far.