I am in seach of an innerspring mattress with comfort level 7.5. I recently returned a saatva classic mattress that was 7.5. It was very comfortable but sagged after the first 30 days. I am now on a mattress factory firm mattress, but my hips hurt when I wake up. Need firm but not that firm. I am 5’8, 140 lbs…I also need a base or foundation to go with it , I sleep mostly on my back , sometimes on my side.I recently found a mattess that seemed very comfortable but it was vey expensive. It was called Bon Air plush. It had 2" quilting foam, then 1" serene foam, 2" avena foam, .25 instator pad, 106 pocketed coil 8" quantam edge.
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It sounds like you’ve had quite a journey with your mattress experiences.
First, it is unusual for any mattress to sag after 30 days, and we estimate that 75% of the time, the issue is related to what is between the mattress and the floor. What is often perceived as adequate often lacks proper support. The exterior might look solid, but the materials used to support the mattress might not be up to par. In fact, I’d say that a lot of bed frames, platform beds, and foundations on the market today lack adequate support. We had someone recently with a Nectar Premier Hybrid who reported it sank in the middle after a couple of months and found it way too soft. We recommended that they test the mattress on the floor; when they did, they found that they didn’t fee like they were rolling to the middle and the mattress did felt too firm now.
If you get a new foundation, like one from DLX, ensure that the foundation is properly supported. We’ve seen our mattresses and foundations, along with bed frames that lacked adequate support, lead to the mattress sagging. Always opt for heavy-duty options. Generally, there should be cross braces and a center support beam in the middle, with at least a couple of sturdy legs that touch the floor.
Thanks for sharing your height, weight, and previous mattress experiences. This information is helpful in giving a recommendation. Our mattress has a different design than Saatva, but if you found the Bon Air—which appears to have a typo in the coil count at 106—comfortable, we think you would be comfortable on a DLX. We’d recommend our Premier Hybrid in Firm. This model provides a firm support level but includes a good amount of cushioning to avoid being too hard, making it a balanced option for someone who sleeps on their back and occasionally on their side. Additionally, ensuring that you pair it with a robust support system is key.
Keep in mind that firmness is quite subjective and personal. One person’s 7.5 might be firm, whereas another might find it medium. It’s like spicy food—one person may say it’s not spicy, while another is sweating and chugging milk. With the Premier Hybrid, LatexLux, or MemoryMax from us, there is a zipper on the mattress that allows access to a 3" insert, enabling you to adjust the comfort if needed.
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thank you for your response. When I went to your website I saw that you have flippable mattresses. I have always had one,so now I am curious about them. The essential I think maybe too firm. I am looking at the classic 12inch soft or the 14 " med, What is the difference? I do like to sleep on top of the mattress rather than sinking in. I feel though that my body is requesting somthing softer than a firm as I am getting older. Right now I am sleeping on a mattress factory legacy firm (2011) and wake up with a stiff back. I am totally confused about finding a good support system. Looking at a linnus platform bed with 2.75" between slats.
So can you please tell me the difference between the premier firm and the classic 14 " medium., and the classic 12" soft. thx
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Yes, we do offer traditional two-sided mattresses that you can flip and rotate to even out the wear. Based on the firmness level you select, the mattress is the same on both sides.
Regarding your inquiry about the Classic 12" Soft and the 14" Medium, the main difference between these two models lies in the amount of foam on each side. While both models use the same high-quality fabrics and pocket coils, the 14" has more foam padding, which generally provides a softer feel. As a result, most people would find the 14" Medium feels softer compared to the 12" Medium.
When comparing the Premier Hybrid and DLX Classic Double Sided Mattress, the Premier offers the flexibility to adjust the comfort level after purchase. It features a 3" insert that can be changed out if it becomes uncomfortable over time. This adjustability can be beneficial as your comfort needs change.
If there is any uncertainty about selecting the correct firmness, we’d always recommend opting for the Premier Hybrid, as it provides the flexibility to adjust the comfort level after you get it.
Zinus platform beds are less than ideal when you are concerned about long-term support for the mattress. We tested them, and they can be problematic over the long term. The issue is not the spacing but the thickness and type of wood—the slats tend to be very lightweight and flexible. We completely understand your confusion about support bases. Unfortunately, many options on the market are not adequate, and the blame often falls on the mattress. Just last week, someone contacted us about buying a new mattress. They had a big-name bed-in-a-box that felt unsupportive, and they rolled to the middle after a couple of months using a base that looked good and had thousands of five-star reviews. They tried the mattress on the floor, and what was once too soft and unsupportive became too hard.
The challenge in recommending a solution is that everyone has their own design aesthetics for their room, so what we might recommend may not match what people want for the look of their room.
To simplify, you could consider an adjustable base, our foundation with a heavy-duty bed frame, or something like KD frames Nomad. You can also retrofit an existing bed frame by replacing the slats—Home Depot sells them, so it’s a common issue that needs to be fixed on a bed frame.
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I recently purchased a engineered sleep solid platform foundation. No slats.
Also a cushion firm 12" mattress. It felt like I was sleeping on the floor. Very uncomfortable.Rated 8/10.I am looking at your medium classic two sided mattress. I think the 6 rating may be more comfortable. Do you think it will be firmer with the foudation I have?
thank you
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Good Morning @sleepyme - I realize you are asking DLX a question, but you also tagged us so I wanted chime in! Looking back at this thread, the past mattresses you have tried, and your current experience with our Classic Hybrid 12" Cushion-Firm just goes to show how hard this mattress journey can be!
On our ends it is always so interesting how different each sleeper is - we have people who say are Classic Hybrid 12" Extra Firm is too soft and then in your case the Cushion-Firm feeling like the floor. The good news is that now that we know where you stand in the firmness scale - we can move from there.
I will let DLX speak to their products, but it seems you are looking in the right direction.
I also wanted to speak about toppers. A certain percentage of our Classic Hybrid customers go in knowing they may add a topper to this product for extra comfort. Adding a topper to a mattress only has benefits and not many, if any negatives.
It prolongs the life of and protects the actual mattress. It adds the comfort that you need and that is easy to adjust through trying a different topper. Lastly, toppers are very easy and cost effective to replace once they wear out and it saves you from having to replace the entire mattress as quickly.
If there is anything we can do just let us know. I know you have spoken to us over the phone and via text. So you know how to reach us!
Good luck and we hope you find the right fit!
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First, we’d encourage you to reach out to Engineered Sleep directly to see if they can help. They know their product better than anyone else and might be able to find a solution to make the mattress more comfortable. A topper is a great way to customize the feel and could provide the comfort you’re looking for. We’d recommend giving them a call before doing anything else to see if they can assist.
We couldn’t agree more with @EngineeredSleep that firmness is very subjective. What feels soft to one person can feel firm to another. Both experiences are valid and it just shows how differently people can perceive things. The scale can be a helpful guideline, but it’s still subjective. An 8 in one mattress can “feel” different than an 8 in another.
While our Classic might technically be “softer,” I don’t think it would be a significant improvement. Our mattress, like Engineered Sleep’s, has minimal padding on either side and a more old-school double sided mattress feel where much of the comfort comes from the coils. We haven’t tried the Engineered Sleep model in person so it’s hard to say exactly how ours would compare, but based on the specs, it probably wouldn’t be a major difference.
Given that you liked the Bon Air in the store which had about 5" of foam between you and the coils, both our mattress and Engineered Sleep’s have only about 2.25" of foam over the coils. That means you’re closer to the coils which are firmer and more supportive than foam.
If you’re not finding the Engineered Sleep comfortable, there’s a low chance the Classic in medium or even soft would feel much better. From the sound of it, adding a topper to your existing mattress might be the best solution and could provide that extra cushioning you need. Definitely reach out directly to Engineered Sleep. They’re good people and really know their stuff.
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