Hello! I have an 8 year old T-P Cloud Lux mattress with severe sagging/indentations…so bad we cant sleep on it, but doesnt meet their return requirements. After researching new mattresses for a few months, i discovered the world of DIY mattress fixins, so thats what im hoping to do. Id like to pull out the mattress and replace the memory foam layer with latex.
My question, finally, is: will it be enough to just replace the top layer (memory foam) with a 2 or 3 inch talalay or dunlop topper? And which is more recommended?
Hi RemoW and welcome to the MattressUnderGround and becoming a new MUGster.
While I won’t delve into details like your profile, age, weight, height, sleep position, and other criteria covered in our tutorials, I’d like to share some general observations.
Many assume that sagging and indentations result solely from consistent sleeping in the same mattress spot, a heavier “middle” area, lack of mattress rotation, and various anecdotal factors. What often goes unnoticed is that a misaligned foundation, a weak support area in the mattress, and a warped or abnormal foundation surface (beyond just angled support legs) can contribute to sagging in the comfort layer of a mattress.
Although you’ve seemingly reached the expected lifespan of approximately 8 years for your Tempur-Pedic, regardless of the warranty’s unlikelihood of being honored, it might be a suitable time for a DIY approach or whichever method you prefer from the outset. You could even repurpose parts of the old Tempur-Pedic to create a couple of pillows.
It’s crucial to avoid the scenario where using portions of an old mattress, along with new layers, leads to premature damage, leaving you questioning why you didn’t opt for an entirely new system initially.
Take a careful and comprehensive look at this product, ensuring you’ve considered it from every possible angle.
I understand their could be economic concerns and those are not to be undermined or looked over. It would be better to see good funds go to a more likely positive outcome.
Thanks for your quick an in depth reply! And you’re right, we dont want to waste our time, money, or body aches doing this the wrong way!
Just to be more helpful, im 62, 250, 6’4’, and my wife is not as big or tall as myself:)
I was really gung ho on purchasing one of the many hybrid mattresses that we have been reviewing, etc, but then it dawned on me to try to replace the top few inches of our current mattress, and if need be, eventually the whole insides.
The foundation is like new, the mattress cover, etc is as well. Im thinking that i could just replace the sagging parts at first.
What you should do in a case like this is speak with one of our latex experts @Sleep_EZ , @Latex_Mattress_Fact1 or @Arizona_Premium to see how they can intertwine their latex layers with the specific parts of your mattress to see how a combination would work together. I am not a tempur-pedic mattress expert (except to say, I could not find one that worked for us), although I really like their pillows, so I am not certain what components you would be commingling with the new latex layers.
Hopefully one of them which chime in here. My personal option, not professional, is start over, keep the foundation if new. You and I are somewhat close in age and size. I am 6’ 220 (formally 250 a year ago) and 63y.o. so I understand where you are coming from.
I tried to “fix” my previous mattress with toppers, but that was a failed waste of time mess. So I bought a new mattress and we have never been happier.
Let’s see what a few of the Latex folks have to offer.
Since my first post, i decided to open my Tempur-Pedic up to see what it looked like…
Bottom: 2, 3" laters of convoluted foam
Top: 6 inches of combined foam (2" - firm with 4" memory foam on top)
So, now my thinking would be, get 3" firm dunlop, with another 3" soft top layer (talalay or dunlop) to go on top of existing convoluted support base…zip it all up and Ta DA…sleeping happy, forever after!! (At least thats how i see it going on my mind…)
BTW, what mattress did you go with? My wife is kind of leery of me going the DIY route!
Perhaps the 6" of the combined foam. Convoluted foam can be hit or miss. It is basically half the amount of the foam that should have been a layer, but by cutting it in the convoluted method, they get two pieces of “not as substantial” foam out of one.
As long as the deeper layers appear undamaged, the only thing you have to consider is how they will work in tandem with the latex. This is something that those Trusted Members here at TMU can better address as they sometimes with use other material foams in combination with their latex to customize a sleep system for their clients.
In response to the question, we opted for the Brooklyn Bedding Plank Luxe. It proved to be an excellent choice for us, given our preference for the firmest mattress available. It’s important to note the distinction between firmness and hardness; we specifically sought very firm support, which the Plank Luxe delivers. I must acknowledge that this decision was made before I became a part of TMU.
Even with the benefit of hindsight, having tested around 20-30 mattresses or more, I’m uncertain if we would have changed our course. The Plank Luxe, while basic, met our needs. It features a dual-sided design, with the extra firm side comprising 6" of 13.5g spring support, 2" of 1.8lb 36ILD HD foam, and a 50ILD quilted cover/panel.
It’s worth noting that some individuals are drawn to mattresses with extravagant heights of 16-18" and numerous layers. However, an excess of layers can compromise the support layer’s effectiveness, leading parts of the comfort layer to inadvertently assume a support role. This often results in sinking, divots, depressions, and even the formation of pot holes over time.
All the best,