I just bought the Pod 3 Cover but just heard about the Sleep Number Climate360 mattress which came out a couple months ago. Money is no object, so I am wondering if I should return my Eight Sleep Pod Cover and buy the Climate 360? The reviews of the Climate360 on Google are excellent (better than EightSleep Pod). It seems like the Climate360 does everything the Pod does and more (like automatic firmness adjustments). Who has tried both? Which one is better?
I define better as maximizing sleep efficiency and quality
I saw that someone asked this same question a couple months ago right after the Climate360 came out, but no one really had tried it at that point since it was brand new
Hi diamonddave, and welcome to The Mattress Underground
I just bought the Pod 3 Cover but just heard about the Sleep Number Climate360 mattress which came out a couple months ago. Money is no object, so I am wondering if I should return my Eight Sleep Pod Cover and buy the Climate 360?
The reviews of the Climate360 on Google are excellent (better than EightSleep Pod).
As you likely know, any mattress is unique to those sleeping on it based on their PPP (height, BMI, sleeping position(s) and any underlying health concerns) and their Stats (Posture and alignment, Pressure relief, and Personal preferences). I would take any reviews with a skeptical eye, as these are coming from a personal and mostly uneducated perspective. These reviews cannot tell you how YOU will feel on the mattress as this depends on the sleeperās unique needs and preferences. Youāll also be likely to find quite often marketing/PR masquerading as āunbiasedā reviews.
It seems like the Climate360 does everything the Pod does and more (like automatic firmness adjustments). Who has tried both? Which one is better?
I define better as maximizing sleep efficiency and quality
There is a discussion of these types of cooling/heating systems in this post from July; basically - if you try either of these out and find them comfortable, great! If sleeping too hot is a major issue then this might be the route. Since you did not include any Stats or PPP, we cannot really determine the likelihood of either product may be suited for you. These, as well as the Chilipad - discussed in the post I noted - are hydronic cooling systems and perform similar functions. They are higher priced due to the software/hardware which makes up these types of mattress.
I have no experience with either the Climate 360 or Eight Sleep Pod 3; basically they have a lot of proprietary components/tech/software and so there is very little transparency on materials or how effective they are. Thereās not much discussion about it on our Forum either so it would be difficult to determine if they are appropriate to you from either a subjective or objective position.
If youād provide your Stats and PPP and what sleep issues you are trying to resolve we may be able to comment further.
Thanks for the in-depth response! Here is some of my info:
age: 23 years old
height: 6ā0"
BMI: 25 (184 lbs)
sleeping position(s): pretty much all of them hahah
any underlying health concerns:
I used to have sleep apnea for many years. I was diagnosed when I was 17 and was undiagnosed/chronically fatigued for a couple years before that. I used a CPAP machine for four years roughly until my surgery. I got a septorhinoplasty to fix my deviated septum. From the surgery, my AHI went from 7 to 1.8, so I no longer have sleep apnea and need to use a CPAP machine.
I am not sure about the stats you mentioned regarding posture, but regarding my current sleep stats, I am averaging just 6 hours 45 minutes of total sleep and 49 minutes of REM sleep per night according to my new Oura ring. Not goodā¦
The mattresses I currently sleep on feel pretty comfortable (I live in two places)
The question I want to find the answer to is whether the Pod 3 Cover or the Climate360 will help me improve my sleep the most. Maybe that cannot be answered since it seems like not many people have tried both
Hey, Iāve been looking at similar questions. Just saw what I assume is your post on Reddit, so Iāll cross-post here.
Thereās one other option in this area: TEMPUR-ACTIVEbreeze. Itās sold only through the TEMPUR-Pedic Flagship Stores, and isnāt mentioned anywhere on their website. If you search for it specifically there are one or two threads on Reddit from people whoāve bought it (they seem to like it; Iād Google āReddit tempur ACTIVEbreezeā, works better than Redditās own search), and the Australian and Singaporean TEMPUR sites have brief overviews. Like the Climate360, itās sold as a set consisting of a dedicated base and mattress. The base has fans, and the mattress contains perforated foam layers allowing the air to flow through it. I tried it recently at the store, and when they turn it on, you can see the sheets sort of puff up, but itās gentle enough that you canāt really feel any sort of gusting on your body.
The fact that I have a Pod 2 Pro and am still exploring might give you an idea of how I feel about the Pod. Itās fantastic at lowering temperature, however, Iāve found itās difficult to zero in on the right one. Iāve had it for a year and I still find myself waking up slightly too hot or cold, and then needing to adjust it and try to fall asleep again. Additionally, the extra layers of rubber and fiber seem to stiffen my TEMPUR-Pedic mattress and interfere with its ability to conform, to say nothing of the fact that it obviously gets in the way of memory foamās ability to react to body heat.
Anyway, possibly something worth considering. Iād also point out that Sleep Numberās air chambers may or may not work well for any individual in terms of spinal alignment and pressure relief, so that would definitely be something youād want to try in person. If you look at the page here on air as a support core, you should get a good idea of those issues. Also the ACTIVEbreeze is a bit less expensive, I believe it was around $8k for a Queen, as opposed to $10k for the Climate360.
The one thing Iāll say is that if the room is too hot, the Pod is your only option, because itās the only one that can actively chill the sleep surface below ambient. If your roomās cool but mattresses are just retaining too much heat for you, then the 360 or ACTIVEbreeze should be viable, because the airflow should carry away whatever body heat would otherwise be retained.
Hi diamonddave,
Thanks for the Statsā¦since your BMI is not high, and as you say you no longer have to deal with sleep apnea, all my original points stand - this is just a question of whether a hydronic sleep system might help you to sleep cooler - and thanks @highwayinthesky (and welcome to The Mattress Underground!) for the āhands onā point of view, you made some very good points, hopefully that will give diamonddave some other avenues to look into.
diamonddave - by posture we mean posture and alignment - which does not seem to be an issue in your caseā¦when you lay on your side your back profile should be the same as it looks from behind when you are standing. This doesnt seem to be an issue. And as an aside - my sleep was similar to yours per my smart watch last yearā¦I did the usual recommended: total darkness in bedroom, no tv or devices for an hour or so before bed, no noise; all of which has worked ever since.
