Hi Brass,
Well, from reading this website in fact, I am seeing the marketing speak from the different companies you mentioned.
“BrooklynBedding has a 10” Cotton Camilla model - 3" talalay latex and around 6" 1.5lb density foam core"
http://www.brooklynbedding.com/latex-mattresses/10-inch-cotton
From the website:
3" of Blended Talalay Latex (60S/40N)
6" HD foam core, one of the finest quality foams on the market
— This all indicates to me a marketing value-add, but not an all-clear on the spec sheet. 60% synthetic and 40% natural - this website says synthetic basically sucks. A cheap workaround to providing a 1000 dollar bed for perceived value-add. The biggest indicator here is that whether you choose firm, medium-firm, or medium, the price is all the same. This leads me to believe that they make so much money they are indifferent to the layer of mostly synthetic talalay you choose. As for the HD foam core, basically ALL foam mattresses will have an HD foam core. Is this because HD polyfoam is the most awesome foam ever, or because it’s cheap and hard and serves as a cheap hard base layer, from which you can say “Look at this 15 inch mattress!” while you rake in the bucks with your 10" polyfoam foundation after selling the thing for 2000 dollars. I don’t see why I wouldn’t get a 100% natural latex topper, and perhaps just buy a polyfoam core of however much thickness. It seems hard to find a HD polyfoam block anywhere though - maybe it’s the carefully guarded secret that mattress manufacturers collude to not sell separately to not screw their market.
It is actually difficult to find 100% natural latex. I assume the blends are cheaper and higher GP margin. You really have to search long and hard on the websites to verify that they are using blends/synthetics. 100% latex and 100% natural latex aren’t the same, apparently.
I looked long and hard at the Dreamfoam as well:
http://dreamfoambedding.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=50
It seems to be much the same as the Cotton Camilla. HD foam base + 3 inch “talalay” topper of unknown blends/quality. Yes, highly rated… I’m sure most people who buy 750 dollar beds are going to rate it 5 stars, coming from a zero-analysis, non-specification driven placebo effect. Not to say people are wrong, I’m sure it’s great… I’m sure all these beds are great. My question is pure value. 3" topper plus cheap foam base block doesn’t add up to 750-1000 bucks to me. As far as I understand the layering principles I read on this website.
Seriously, where can I buy HD polyfoam blocks?
Haha thank you for the suggestions. I in fact already went through all of these and declared them unsatisfactory in my mind. I’m not trying to be offensive in my response, just verbalizing my thought process.
I’m taking the wife to a mattress joint around where I live this weekend to “test out” latex mattresses of dunlop and talalay options. Really just going to test firmnesses. I’m highly considering
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00GTCL3JA/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=DTGI7ZHYVPV9&coliid=I1PIIMRA1UHI88&psc=1
THAT piece of junk as a base and then tossing on a 3" latex topper. Total cost will be around 600.
Or maybe this?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000WZTVRG/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=DTGI7ZHYVPV9&coliid=I3TTCDD6GW0HD5&psc=1
And shove a topper on it? Comes out to close to a thousand bucks total, mattress + topper.
Does anyone seriously have a HD polyfoam block shop? Even this 600 dollar mattress has… 5" HD foam base, then various layers of marketing foams. So why aren’t I just buying HD polyfoam , like 7 inches worth as a base in the raw, and then doing double latex toppers on top? Like… 3" firm, 3" medium 100% all natural latex. The latex layers will run about 600-700 bucks from the websites I linked earlier in this thread. I really suspect HD polyfoam is supercheap. I think even Phoenix had a post somewhere that mentions this fact, though I can’t find where I read it at the moment. Neither can I find a place to purchase it on its own.
Phoenix, anywhere to get HD base foam? To make my DIY layered bed? You mentioned “local foam shop” - anywhere online you can name or call out easily? Walking into a proper mattress store looking for polyfoam sounds like an easy way to hand a guy free money.
Thanks guys for your help and answering my questions and giving me suggestions.