Helix Twilight Luxe fail and now I don't know where to look

We just recently replaced our old (14yo) Sealy with separate cooling topper (bought to extend mattress life) with a Helix Twilight Luxe with GlacioTex top. Two weeks in and not only am I waking with lower to mid-back pain, but the mattress is really hot in comparison to what I’m used to.

I’m 5’7", 180# and husband is 6’, 250# and we also have two 50lb dogs in the mix. I’m a side-sleeper primarily but sometimes sleep on my back and sometimes my “side” ends up rolled over closer to my stomach. I’d say husband is about the same.

I can’t decide if I should try to work out the Helix by perhaps a topper or if this is going to end up not working for us at all. I’m of a certain age (40’s F) where the heat at night is going to become a real issue and so if I’m already struggling then I’m terrified in a year or two I’m going to be really hot. And I thought this was supposed to be one of the cooler hybrids. I also struggle with back and neck pain on a good day, so the fact that my 14yo mattress was leaving me in less pain than this is concerning. I can’t tell if it’s an adjustment period or the mattress is maybe too firm?

So I’m not sure where to go from here. Should I return this one (I’ll need to pay a restocking fee since I didn’t buy direct but bought from an authorized showroom)? I’m in NJ so I could make the trek to Shovlin but their prices seem a little higher than I’d like to spend (I would like to stay around 3k). DLX also looks like a good option but I’m nervous to not be able to try in-person first.

Thanks for your help!

Hi BabsNMK,

Welcome to the community!

It’s interesting that you’re experiencing heat and back pain with the Helix Twilight Luxe mattress, especially after switching from your old Sealy. That said, the Sealy was probably a spring and polyfoam mattress, which tends to sleep relatively cool.

The Twilight is the firmer version in its Helix category, just below the Plus, but the Luxe version has more foam in the comfort layer and cover panel, than the standard one. With the additional 2" of foam, you might be sinking in a bit, and the extra lumbar support from the spring layer may be kicking in, which you’re not used to. The slight sinking from the pillow top in the Luxe could be enveloping your body and causing some heat buildup. Another factor to consider is that any new mattress will feel different from your old one, so your body might still be adjusting. While the Glaciotex top is designed to “cool,” I wouldn’t rely too heavily on cooling fabrics. They generally absorb the room’s ambient temperature, so when you first touch the fabric, it feels cool. But that coolness only lasts about 10-15 minutes until your body temperature equalizes out with the mattress. Personally, I have a BB mattress with Glaciotex, and I find it more helpful for making it easier to rotate the mattress, rather than for cooling. Plus, adding a mattress protector, sheets and bedding, make that cooling cover sewn in a moot point.

The heat issue you’re describing is concerning, especially if you’re worried it might get worse over time. Given your physical conditions, it’s crucial to find a mattress that helps you wake up without pain and discomfort. I’m not sure, in this scenario, a topper would solve this issue. Toppers are typically used to maintain firmness, soften the comfort layer, add pressure relief, or extend the lifespan of a mattress.

Most authorized dealers and manufacturers charge a restocking fee, usually around $99, though it can vary. I’m not sure if you bought from an independent authorized dealer or a store that only carries 3Z brands. But if the return fee is minimal, that seems to be fair and reasonable, and many independent dealers offer better pricing than buying directly from the manufacturer. so the return fee if minimal, should not be much of an issue. So, you shouldn’t worry too much about the cost of returning the mattress, should it not work out.

Since you’ve only had the mattress for two weeks, most companies offer a 100-day trial period for exactly this reason. The heat issue is separate, as I mentioned earlier. Mattresses that allow you to sleep more on top of the surface (such as firmer hybrids) or use microcoils rather than memory foam in the comfort layer tend to be cooler. Mattresses made with natural fibers and foams are also typically less hot, especially when engineered and constructed logically. Your Sealy was probably an innerspring with polyfoam, and though it was 14 years old, it was likely cooler than your new mattress because of its different construction.

At this point, it comes down to whether you believe this mattress will work long-term, after your body adjusts and the mattress breaks in. It’s really about whether you feel confident in the mattress and whether the adjustments you’re experiencing are temporary. Helix is a good brand, but it’s possible that the thicker comfort layer and zoned support might just not be the right fit for your body. By the way, how does your husband feel about the mattress?

Visiting a local showroom, like @ShovlinMattress, could give you some helpful insight, even if their prices are higher than you’re expecting. They manufacture their own mattresses, so they have control over the entire process. They could create something similar to the Sealy or even the Helix, but tailored to your specifications at a price that might surprise you. So, if you have not investigated them, dont prejudge. My coworker purchased a custom sized mattress from @ShovlinMattress this past summer, and it was half the price of the typical S or legacy brand, and there is no comparison in quality. The Shovlin will outlast and out perform most all of those retail legacy brands. The key is working with a mattress professional, who sees day in and day out, folks like yourself, and solving similar issues that you are experiencing.

While @DLX may not have a showroom in NJ, they also offer mattresses with split comfort and even split comfort foam layers. For example, your husband might prefer firm latex, while you might prefer medium HD polyfoam.

Ultimately, getting the right balance of support and temperature regulation is key. If the Helix doesn’t meet those needs, it might be worth returning it and exploring other options within your budget—provided you’ve given it a fair trial.

Hope this helps, and feel free to reach out with any more questions!

Best,

Maverick

Good afternoon Babs,

Not sure if you have visited our showroom or not, but we have traditional innerspring mattersses similar to your old Sealy ranging from $1399 to $2499 for a king size.

You could throw a breathable latex pilllowtop and be just over $3k with tax. If you were looking for a queen obviously it would be less.

Remember, unless the mattress has watercooling tubes or a built in a A/C blower, no mattress is “cooling.” Any GEL or other substance absorbs the ambient temperature in the room (typically 72 degrees). This will obviously feel cool to the touch. But as soon as your start to lay in the mattress, it will match your body temperature. If the mattress is not breathable and has poor airflow, it will just trap your body heat.

If you have any additional questions, dont hesitate to give us a call.

Thank you,

James Campbell
Vice President of Sales
Shovlin Mattress Factory
908-322-4178

Semper Fi

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Thanks so much for your extensive reply Maverick. I think you might’ve replied to my post on Reddit too since I posted there before I found this board. I didn’t realize that the extra padding would work against us since I just liked the way it added a bit of softness over the firm mattress. But the heat is a non-negotiable.

My husband can sleep anywhere but he’s mentioned that it almost feels too firm and he really doesn’t have opinions about where he sleeps, so that comment is pretty telling. I fell like the firmness would probably improve with time as the mattress ages, but the heat, I don’t know if I could live with that. And I had no idea it was because the foam was put at the top but obviously that makes sense.

The company where we bought the mattress contracts directly with Helix but you are correct, it is 100-day trial. I thought it was 30 because I had it mixed up with them asking us to give the trial 30 days. I will stick it out a few more weeks but may be making a trip to Shovlin in the near future just to see if I can do better…I’m normally not a hot sleeper so for me to be having an issue with this is unexpected.

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A wool topper will eliminate most of the heat for you. They can get pricey, but they work great to control heat as wool does not store it like foam. Many folks think it is like wearing a wool coat that keeps you warm, but it is more nuanced than that. A wool topper helps regulate temperature and keeps you comfortable while you sleep because of wool’s natural properties. Wool is excellent at managing heat and moisture, providing insulation while still allowing your body to breathe. You get hot on foam because it retains the heat and the heat has no where to dissipate except against your body.

You still have time, so stick with it as you may adjust to the set up. In the mean time, you can investigate other options like shovlin.

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Thanks for your reply James. I think we will make a trip to the showroom possibly tomorrow if you are open. I like the idea of a latex pillowtop as well. So maybe we can make this work. I really appreciate you responding especially on a Sunday.

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Hey BabsNMK,

I had missed your followup response and I had gone on vacation that following Monday. Did you end up coming in to visit our showroom? If so I am sorry I missed you. I hope Dani or Ron were able to assist you.

Thanks,

James

Yes we were. Dani was wonderful and actually the mattress was just delivered. Thanks again for chiming in here.

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