Help Deciding Between Mattresses (Renue vs Silk and Snow)

Hello All, I’m quite new to the mattress universe. I’ve done the research that I can, read the FAQ type things and have become closer to narrowing it down. Because its a big decision, I continuously feel the need to solicit feedback though.

Stats: 30 year old, 250 lbs (on the way down), 5’10 and a combo sleeper who primarily starts on my back and usually wakes up on my side. My current mattress is 10 years old and a 12 inch firm AF memory foam mattress. This firmness was probably great when I was 100+lbs heavier, but now its less comfortable. If this were 5 years ago I might just get a topper and call it a day, but since the mattress is pretty old I figure I should just replace the whole thing. I don’t currently have any back or neck pain/issues.

What I’m looking for: A bed that doesn’t sleep particularly hot, is good for side sleepers that weigh above average but also supportive for back sleeping. For it to last 5-10 years. My budget is preferably under $1k, but willing to go up to $1.5k if the quality is that much of a difference.

As a result, I’ve generally been looking at hybrid mattresses. I do like the feel of memory foam more than latex. Hybrids tend to sleep cooler than a full memory foam mattress. My partner (we have separate rooms) has the casper original and loves it but does say it sleeps warmer than her old mattress and it also sleeps warmer than my current one.

My main two options are…
Option A: The Silk and Snow Hybrid (about $700)
Option B: The Renue 14in Hybrid (about $800 from a locally owned mattress store).

Based on what I’ve been able to find online and from talking to the (very) knowledgeable owner of the local showroom, these mattresses are pretty similar in their design and quality of materials. The main difference seems to be the coils. Renue uses 15.5 gauge wire coils (on the softer side). Silk and Snow use 12.5 in the inner third and 14.5 in the outer third. As such, the Renue should be a bit softer than the silk and snow, but the Silk and Snow should be more supportive in the middle.

I’ve been able to test the Renue, and I do find it to be far more comfortable than my current mattress. I am unable to test the silk and snow. I do want to support local businesses when I can, so the Renue seems like a good option. However the Silk and Snow seems like a slightly better option at a lower cost, but without being able to test it.

These are the two I’m currently deciding between. However for the next tier up the Tuft and Needle Hybrid looks like a good choice, the Leesa Sapira is a bit expensive but also seems like a strong choice. The local showroom also has Nightsbridge 14 inch firm or plush available at a deep discount as they were floor models.

Nightsbridge and Renue are both Corsicana brands. Corsicana is an older and more experienced manufacturer than most brands out there, and certainly don’t put much into marketing the way that a lot of brands do. As a result, there aren’t as many reviews on these mattresses as the others (but also fewer sponsored “reviews” as well. So if anyone has experience with these brands, I would appreciate any insight.

I can also answer any additional questions as well as other mattress i’ve considered. As always, I appreciate any feedback related to the topic. Thank you for reading.

Hi Britton120 and welcome to the Mattress Underground :slight_smile:

I’ve done the research that I can, read the FAQ type things and have become closer to narrowing it down. Because its a big decision, I continuously feel the need to solicit feedback though.
Stats: 30 year old, 250 lbs (on the way down), 5’10 and a combo sleeper who primarily starts on my back and usually wakes up on my side. My current mattress is 10 years old and a 12 inch firm AF memory foam mattress. This firmness was probably great when I was 100+lbs heavier, but now its less comfortable. If this were 5 years ago I might just get a topper and call it a day, but since the mattress is pretty old I figure I should just replace the whole thing. I don’t currently have any back or neck pain/issues.

As you know, any mattress you finally choose will be based on your stats (height, BMI, sleeping position(s) and any underlying health issues) - thanks for providing those! – and your PPP (Posture & alignment, Pressure relief, and Personal preferences)…First, congratulations on being proactive, replacing your mattress when it’s at the wearing out stage, which gives you time to make a great choice. Also very good you don’t have any aches or pains. If it’s starting to be too firm it may indeed be a better decision to replace it instead of just throwing a topper on it. Even if you didn’t feel any wear yet, as you have seen comparing the Mattress Durability Guidelines to the Mattress Specifications You Need To Know, memory foam, even good memory foam, is not very durable over time…and also, due to its nature, can keep body heat trapped closer to the skin which causes people to feel they sleep ‘hot’. If you do want to stick with memory foam for your comfort layer, as a larger sleeper, you need to ensure you will have enough support. We suggest any foam in a potential mattress has no more than an inch or so of lower grade foams…for memory foam no lower than 4 lbs/cuft for normal range weights, and 5lbs/cuft for higher range weights… and if polyfoam is used, with at least 1.8 lbs/cuft density for normal weight ranges and 2 lbs/cuft density for higher weight ranges, just to ensure you have good support that does not wear down over time

As a result, I’ve generally been looking at hybrid mattresses. I do like the feel of memory foam more than latex. Hybrids tend to sleep cooler than a full memory foam mattress. My partner (we have separate rooms) has the casper original and loves it but does say it sleeps warmer than her old mattress and it also sleeps warmer than my current one.
My main two options are…
Option A: The Silk and Snow Hybrid (about $700)
Option B: The Renue 14in Hybrid (about $800 from a locally owned mattress store).
Based on what I’ve been able to find online and from talking to the (very) knowledgeable owner of the local showroom, these mattresses are pretty similar in their design and quality of materials. The main difference seems to be the coils. Renue uses 15.5 gauge wire coils (on the softer side). Silk and Snow use 12.5 in the inner third and 14.5 in the outer third. As such, the Renue should be a bit softer than the silk and snow, but the Silk and Snow should be more supportive in the middle.

The Silk & Snow Hybrid has several foam layers of undisclosed density or composition, while the inner pocket coil gauge at 12.5 gauge is good for a larger heavier person, the outer portion of the zoned coil is 14.5 gauge which creates a softer area under your shoulders and legs…but I’d caution on the “Firm Edge Support Extra firm perimeter” as the density of the foam is not disclosed and the same durability guidelines apply. I’d consider this as a weak link in this mattress especially for a higher BMI sleeper… and (14") Corsica’s Renue Hybrid has gel & memory foam of undisclosed density or composition, and 15.5 gauge coils, which again, may not be supportive enough for your needs and may tire the steel over time for larger BMIs.

This mattress also has perimeter support, and again, they do not disclose any foam density. In many cases, the perimeter edge ‘support base foam’ is another way of reducing the cost of the unit to the detriment of the durability, especially for higher BMIs.

A problem with many of the major retailers and big box brands is that they are not forthcoming on the details of their products. Using proprietary foams means there is often no way to obtain this information, and along with a lot of marketing languages, majors it difficult to assess how they may or may not work for your sleep profile. I personally would stay away from any mattress I could not find specifications for as there would be no way to consider it’s durability over the long run.

I know you want to support local business, but if you do decide to order online, you may want to take a look at the Trusted Members of the site, like Mattress To Go, BioSleep Concept, Nest Bedding or GhostBed who, among others, carry a number of foam hybrids that can meet your comfort & support needs.

~ Basilio

Thank you for the response!

I do think the silk and snow falls into the lower end of the “good density” foam. Based on this: Silk & Snow Hybrid Mattress Review After 2 Years of Sleep Testing | Cansumer there is a 1" layer of 1.8lb density polyfoam on top of 2" of 4lb density memory foam.

The Renue I believe has a very similar construction to it, at least for the polyfoam level, based on the discussion at the shop. As he also broke down the different levels of density/quality saying the Renue was in the 1.8-2.1 range (and I am assuming 1.8)

However, the recommendation for Mattress To Go does bring me to one of the “next level up” in price points that this showroom had. Which is Therapedic brand which is carried by mattress to go, including their TheraLuxe HD collection.

He had a firm, medium, and pillowtop version of this. I would be partial to the medium as I’m looking for something softer than my current very firm mattress, this should be the one: Therapedic TheraLuxe HD Balsam Firm - Mattress To Go

Quilted top and tufted. 1" of 2.1 polyfoam on top. Below that is 2" of 3.0lb proprietary gel polyfoam and another 1" of 1.8lb polyfoam.

I did enjoy laying on this one, however the going price was almost double that for the renue. It seems like it would be worth it to go with this option for the higher density foam. I’m hoping I can talk the shop owner down to $1,250 though.

Hi Britton120,

I adjusted my previous answer to show where i think the weak links may be and provided additional info.
You are in excellent hands with Jeff at Mattress To Go and he should be able to help you find a great choice.

~ Basilio

Thank you so much for your help and guidance!